Redrover wrote:You want people to handle crime. One seccie at least tries by arresting a greyshirt with a saw who tried to resist arrest. They get bwoinked for being wrong despite it being IC issue by the same rules.
This is why people who play a lot of sec are overwhelmingly against this sort of policy.
You can’t really solve squabbles as sec. Think about it. Sec is called to a scene. You arrive there. Player A says player B assaulted them, or broke in somewhere, or stole something. Player B says they didn’t — or that player A started it by doing something else. You have two options now. You can (1) choose to believe one of them, and brig the other, or (2) ignore it and move on. This policy wants (1), and although that in itself is a bad idea, I find it laughable only a couple weeks after the proposal we see a sec player noted for doing (1), with the admin in the ticket saying a better investigation should’ve taken place. Incredibly easy to say, but try playing sec yourself . Sec are not admins and are not able to dig into the logs to find out who did what. Sec have to operate on incomplete information, often just hearsay, and an admin with experience in the role will be aware of this and give sec some leeway (precisely why there’s policy stating sentences under 10min are IC issues, but we’ve seen in this recent appeal that can be completely ignored by saying “rule 1”).
Why bother with all of that nonsense if you can just ignore the crime? If there’s a murder right in front of you then sure, that’s an easy situation to resolve, but little crimes here and some tiding there — interfering in that accomplishes nothing except pissing everyone off, and having to field bwoinks from those pissed off players. Or worse, a ban appeal.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you want to force sec to micromanage people, then you have to accept the consequences of that — sec fucking up and making mistakes, resulting in people brigged unjustly
over inconsequential crimes. Personally I consider the risk of unjustly brigging someone over a minor crime greater than the harm of ignoring the minor crime altogether, so I find it poor practice to intervene in all but the most egregious and obvious cases.
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force sec to abide by these standards, and then bwoink them when they make a mistake trying to do that, is completely ridiculous, and I can’t honestly think of a better way to kill the role off.