Successful appeals, but only too late.

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Nabski
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Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by Nabski » #718121

It's almost impossible to successfully appeal a 1 day ban during that single day.

Give players who appeal successfully something.

Hat token.
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by Imitates-The-Lizards » #718126

Or just accept that admins are not absolutely perfect and can fuck up on occasion. I promise, being kicked off the server for 24 hours will not cause you to shrivel up and die, and if your appeal really is successful, you get to feel vindicated anyway.
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by dendydoom » #718138

this is certainly a frustrating aspect of appeals for the player but sadly i'm really uncomfortable with anything that "gamifies" things like the appeal process. these shorter "timeout" bans are in essence a mercy to the player in the first place, and admins know not to place weaker bans for "flimsier" reasoning - if the reasoning is flimsy, a ban shouldn't be applied at all!

if a ban was made in absolute error by the admin then that admin should be taking notes on what they did wrong to try and avoid it from happening again.
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by Nabski » #718155

You think that by attaching something positive to it for the player it would encourage bad faith appeals trying to get that thing?

I agree that it's a good spot for the admin to reconsider stuff, and there definitely shouldn't be an actual negative outcome for the admin because they were trying their best.

I just feel like getting something other than a sorry and "vindication" would be nice for the player.

For reference I am making this thread as a result of the captain that shot a tider that broke into the bridge then threw their body out (into a hard to reach place). They were told to appeal on the forums if they disagreed.

If the player was able to understand the allowed to kill people that break in is a guideline in some areas and valid alert in others, then I agree this could have been a note.

It wasn't an absolute error to place, but I don't think it was a mercy either.
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by TheLoLSwat » #718187

you get the note edited / removed for a successful appeal.

24 hours away from the game is a non-issue. If anything its a good thing
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by 8bot » #718207

if it's a non issue then why not just 24 hour ban people for no reason randomly
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by TheBibleMelts » #718225

Nabski wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:37 pm You think that by attaching something positive to it for the player it would encourage bad faith appeals trying to get that thing?
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by Nabski » #718241

That's why I said hat token, just a physical little something for a round as sorry above the ability to feel right.
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Re: Successful appeals, but only too late.

Post by Cheshify » #718832

I guess this is closed? I don't see a need to do anything here. If someone successfully appeals a 1 day ban they get the note removed.
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