The exact situation that spawned this thread was a changeling on MRP accidentally bringing an Ash Drake onto the station. This is obviously fine - accidents happen, but another admin cited this would be fine under the sabotage rule, and I'm not certain that's the case given the scale of it. An Ash Drake is kind of okay; they can cause a lot of damage but, in the grand scheme of things, it's not that dangerous. Bubblegum or Legion, on the other hand...
I guess I'm curious as to where the community thinks the line should be drawn here. Are we cool with antags on MRP doing stuff like causing a singularity delam if they don't have an objective like "escape alone"? Can changelings bring the Colossus to the station as a treat? I don't think I feel strongly either way, but I think it might be valuable to consider if that line needs to exist and, if so, where it should be.
For reference, the current rule reads as:
E: I'll clarify my own position in that I'm not saying we should or shouldn't have a line here, I'm saying that I can see the potential that someone decides Bubblegum should pay the crew a visit, like 20 people get gibbed, then people start complaining that this is excessive. I want to see what others think as to whether we care about this specific situation or not rules-wise.Mass station sabotage that is likely to kill people is allowed so long as the antagonist does not take any direct and specific personal actions to maximise the bodycount beyond what the sabotage itself causes. Examples of mass station sabotage include plasma flooding, causing a supermatter delamination and spacing the station.