TechnoAlchemist wrote:The poll speaks for itself, this isn''t needed or wanted.
Or maybe it's the way this has turned into an argument that's completely unproductive, anyone new coming into the thread isn't going to read through and see the suggestions, they're just going to go off the OP (that Steelpoint should have edited) and vote.
I'm going to have to agree with Steelpoint, playing security sucks dick if you're trying to follow the rules and your current vulnerabilities (and the stupid shitty nerfs on all the gear) mean you need to basically harmbaton more often than not. I've played security a lot on here and on other servers, on here taking on more than one person anytime under any circumstance is suicide, and that's often the case because security isn't fun to play so it's understaffed. So you either go semi-lethal and hope for the best or you just back off and go back to hunting the changeling while everyone calls you shitcurity for not doing your job.
Oh, and (to address a point in the thread that's bothered me) on what fucking planet can anyone expect a shitty piece of glass tied to a metal pole to go through body armor? That wouldn't even defeat obsolete canvas flak jackets let alone modern kevlar vests. Either make it so spears can be made with other items (ideally some system for metalworking would be great to have) that aren't ridiculous and therefore have different levels of quality of spear, or accept that even the
makeshift weapons that were never supposed to be super robust anyway shouldn't fuck over an armored opponent. This is a symptom of a greater problem and as much as I love lizards they're a great example of that, it's that "slippery slope" argument in action.
Steelpoint's trying to unfuck something that got broken somewhere. Armor currently does nothing, and that doesn't promote an atmosphere of "paranoia" it promotes an atmosphere of "why play this, it's stupid" which is far short of anyone's goals for what the game should be. Maybe the values Steelpoint put up aren't what they need to be but I think this armor thing needs to be looked at.
MY SUGGESTION: This thread dies, and Steelpoint reworks the idea into something more viable then reposts it.