Options for Minerals

firecage · Post by **firecage** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:05 pm #27192

Currently I am busy adding in more uses for all minerals. A PR for basic mineral flooring is up so far, and I am busy with mineral statues. Though I would appreciate it if you guys post more ideas for minerals in this thread.

1. Mineral Floors(PR is up, it is basic so far)

2. Mineral Statues(WIP)

3. Mineral Rods(Still to do)

4. Mineral Tables(Still to do)

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:29 pm #27204

You want miners? Scientists? We'll we got ideas!

1 mineral Rods everyone with their own special abilities
Diamond Reflects laser
Plasma when getting hot burns
Uranium radiates the shit of everything
And etc

2 Mineral tables
Cuz metal creation got metal tables
So why not sandstone creation with sandstone tables
And etc

3 mineral bucket
Cuz plastic isn't the only thing that can hold water

4 uranium reactor
Like in dah real world
Provides electricy

Here are muh ideas

firecage · Post by **firecage** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:32 pm #27206

Sure, 1 and 2 would be cool. 3 kinda feels trolly. 4 is outoff my league.

Wizardjenkins66 · Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:57 pm

Uranium rods should be used as fuel for that reactor. Make sure to bring a bucket of water to it every 10 minutes or you can say goodbye to the station!

Raven776 · Post by **Raven776** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:00 am #27385

Diamond bucket of water.

Wizardjenkins66 · Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:03 am

Raven776 wrote:Diamond bucket of water.

Diamond shoes. Diamond Cabinets. Diamond sunglasses.

Incomptinence · Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:03 am

Pacmen (super?) and mechs can run off uranium sheets already, actually not sure if the mech reactor got removed though it produced a lot of rads including for the driver.

Whoisthere · Post by **Whoisthere** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:42 am #27433

Mineral tools that take less time to do the job. If you have a full set of diamond tools, you can decon a r-wall in seconds! If you have a diamond saw/scalpel, you do surgery faster, AND with an increased chance of success that comes into play when you're operating on a table in maint using a bedsheet instead of surgical sheets!

Non-depleted uranium boolits! Irradiate AND do more damage!
Uranium borg exoskeleton! Prevent human harm while irradiating everyone!
Diamond-reinforced wall! Like a plasteel-reinforced wall, but more reinforced!
Diamond windoor! Think blast doors, but transparent!
Diamond pipes! Can't be blown up!

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:35 pm #27437

I got some new ones

1.mineral turrets like
Diamonds improve the defence a lot
Uranium radiates the shit out of you but slows shooting speed
And etc

2.mineral weapons upgrades
Those improves ammo hold
With diamond being the hights

3.mineral crates
Diamond can't be pulsed
Uranium speaks for itself but can be pulsed easily
Plasma when pulsed or lasered it goes into flames

4.mineral airlock assembly
Why having a stupid door
If you can make shiny airlocks with locks

5.mineral swords
Blades that can be made by using minerals
And can be combined with different minerals
And also can be broken by using it to much
Every mineral should have a different break chance
Like Plasteel hilt diamond blade very sturdy and sharp

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:18 pm #27440

Silver ID cards = Silver
Golden ID cards = Gold
Diamond ID cards = Diamond

Takes one sheet to make.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:10 pm #27446

Scott wrote:Silver ID cards = Silver
Golden ID cards = Gold
Diamond ID cards = Diamond

Takes one sheet to make.

fund it.

QuartzCrystal · Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:39 pm

I made a separate thread for my suggestion: http://www.tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewto ... f=9&t=1326

Essentially we should be able use gold to make a chair, but instead of a regular chair it's The Golden Throne and when someone sits on it they die, cannot be removed from it, and teleportation mishaps no longer occur. Second Golden Thrones don't do this and the person becomes valid for being a filthy heretic.

Wizardjenkins66 · Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:43 pm

Mineral armor, So we can be knights in shiny armor.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:35 pm #27503

Let's keep this space related, or we start adding blacksmiths.

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:59 pm #27507

Scott wrote:Let's keep this space related, or we start adding blacksmiths.

Space blacksmiths.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:09 pm #27509

Well, we do have space wizards. If we add armor, we should add swords and shields.

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:05 pm #27519

Scott wrote:Well, we do have space wizards. If we add armor, we should add swords and shields.

Spess knights vs spess wizards
genius

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:18 pm #27522

Golden shields should reflect spells.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:21 pm #27533

Scott wrote:Golden shields should reflect spells.

it's silver you clown

haven't you ever played nethack

Alex Crimson · Post by **Alex Crimson** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:45 am #27576

I like the Tables, Statues and ID ideas. But can we not go making 100 different objects with silly abilities?

Also make too much interesting stuff and it could negatively effect actual jobs that require those minerals. Like R&D. Science would never see a diamond again if every head stole them to make diamond IDs.

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:09 am #27615

Alex Crimson wrote:I like the Tables, Statues and ID ideas. But can we not go making 100 different objects with silly abilities?

Also make too much interesting stuff and it could negatively effect actual jobs that require those minerals. Like R&D. Science would never see a diamond again if every head stole them to make diamond IDs.

I see you never mined as a "scientist" they can get their own shit lazy bastards

Raven776 · Post by **Raven776** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:32 pm #27676

Science needs at most 10 of every material to get shit done. I say make mining easier, make minerals more useful for other purposes, and just let everything trickle down to where it needs to be. The fact that there will never be a case of 'too much minerals' no matter how well mining does is sad. I wanna see rounds where mining hits the jackpot and assistants are running around making diamond dance floors. At least it'll give people something to do besides reside in the tide.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:37 pm #27708

Raven776 wrote:Science needs at most 10 of every material to get shit done..

>Ignoring Robotics
>Implying the point of R&D is to do R&D and the fancy gadgets are meaningless.

For the record, a Gygax alone takes about 10 diamonds to make, assuming your stuff's upgraded. A Durand can eat up 30 or more silver/uranium.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:47 pm #27712

I'd feel sorry for robotics if they actually handed over the military mechs to security.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:23 pm #27738

Scott wrote:I'd feel sorry for robotics if they actually handed over the military mechs to security.

That's not something to pin purely on robotics. Most departments that create something use it themselves instead of handing it out to whoever else. Any branch of science, cargo, botany, etc.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:51 am #27773

Cipher3 wrote:botany

I dunno, usually bananas and weed are everywhere but inside hydroponics.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:55 am #27774

Lo6a4evskiy wrote:
Cipher3 wrote:botany
I dunno, usually bananas and weed are everywhere but inside hydroponics.

Because the botanists find it funny/are druggies.

Alex Crimson · Post by **Alex Crimson** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:45 am #27782

Mechs are meant for other departments. None of them can be used by the Roboticist for anything other than feeling like a badass or griefing.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:50 am #27783

Implying those are a problem.

Arete · Post by **Arete** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:16 am #27784

It would be nifty if some departments had a means to send toys to security through a special chute and automatically get SecHUD-tagged as PATRIOTIC CITIZENS or something. People would definitely use it to send bombs or reroute the tubes to steal the goodies, though I don't know whether those are points for or against the idea.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:35 am #27786

Arete wrote:It would be nifty if some departments had a means to send toys to security through a special chute and automatically get SecHUD-tagged as PATRIOTIC CITIZENS or something. People would definitely use it to send bombs or reroute the tubes to steal the goodies, though I don't know whether those are points for or against the idea.

There's disposals and mail tagging, though not enough people use it.

Raven776 · Post by **Raven776** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:30 pm #27840

Waaaay off topic.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:53 pm #27861

True, but now I wonder if I can mail a full scale syndi-bomb.

Post by **MisterPerson** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:36 pm #27889

What does any of this have to do with minerals? Can we start talking about minerals again?

Arete · Post by **Arete** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:23 pm #27903

MisterPerson wrote:What does any of this have to do with minerals? Can we start talking about minerals again?

Minerals are currently only consumed by scientists making things they have an immediate desire for. If scientists have more reason to make things for other departments, then demand for minerals is increased, which is the implicit goal of this thread. Before more toys are added, it should be determined why the current toys aren't being used.

iyaerP · Post by **iyaerP** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:24 pm #28173

On the topic of mining, I would REALLY like to see the ore vendor in the same room as the point redemption machines. Weather that means moving the ore smelter back to mining, or moving/adding the redemption machines into cargo, it would be nice to not need a shuttle ride to get stims/jetpack.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:02 pm #28186

Arete wrote:
MisterPerson wrote:What does any of this have to do with minerals? Can we start talking about minerals again?
Minerals are currently only consumed by scientists making things they have an immediate desire for. If scientists have more reason to make things for other departments, then demand for minerals is increased, which is the implicit goal of this thread. Before more toys are added, it should be determined why the current toys aren't being used.

Chemistry, Virology, Bartender, Engineering all use minerals. We need more minerals and better distribution.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:39 pm #28192

Scott wrote:
Arete wrote:
MisterPerson wrote:What does any of this have to do with minerals? Can we start talking about minerals again?
Minerals are currently only consumed by scientists making things they have an immediate desire for. If scientists have more reason to make things for other departments, then demand for minerals is increased, which is the implicit goal of this thread. Before more toys are added, it should be determined why the current toys aren't being used.
Chemistry, Virology, Bartender, Engineering all use minerals. We need more minerals and better distribution.

Chem already has access to the ore machine and gets a notification like science does.

Alex Crimson · Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:38 am

So where are the Mithril and Adamantite floors/walls/statues?

Incomptinence · Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:05 am

Cipher3 wrote:True, but now I wonder if I can mail a full scale syndi-bomb.

You send it in though a shute by pull clicking it into the entrance (not a bin) but you cannot mail wrap it and tag it. So if you cut their disposals bin off from the network and put a shute (made by atmos, found in mail room and mining) on the other end you can basically do that as a deadly twist on the "HAHA LET'S POP UP INSIDE HOP OFFICE!" disposals trick.

Hard to pull off because of the infernal beeping though, I have tried.

Silavite · Post by **Silavite** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:50 am #29083

Scott wrote:
Arete wrote:
MisterPerson wrote:What does any of this have to do with minerals? Can we start talking about minerals again?
Minerals are currently only consumed by scientists making things they have an immediate desire for. If scientists have more reason to make things for other departments, then demand for minerals is increased, which is the implicit goal of this thread. Before more toys are added, it should be determined why the current toys aren't being used.
Chemistry, Virology, Bartender, Engineering all use minerals. We need more minerals and better distribution.

Engineering is the only one of those that requires a significant about of minerals, and that's metal, sand, and maybe plasma for plasteel.
Chemistry needs maybe one or two sheets of plasma and one or two other extraneous substances.
I've never been bartender, so I can't speak for that, but the most I've had a bartender talk about minerals in game was to see one come and ask me for iron as a chemist once.
Virology needs plasma, I guess. Though Xenobiology needs plasma as well.

Incomptinence · Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:56 pm

The ore redeemer stuffed up the distribution chain we don't quite need MORE ore but we can easily get large demand for plas steel which it can't even make and the shift to it stopped the use of ore tubes and miners pooling their ore into collective loads to be transported by ONE MINER allowing the others to keep mining. You can still mail loads to anyone who might need it but miners seem to see their smaller individual loads and just decide to haul them to science alone and are less inclined to share.

Being located on the station instead on in place of the original smelter, which we still have even though it only has one unique product, was just another phase in ergo's comprehensive redundant hatred of the miner.

I do miss several exotic mineral flavour constructs and I do wish they were made cheaper resource wise.

Raven776 · Post by **Raven776** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:02 pm #29112

Any miner that hauls their load to science deserves to be murdered in the dorms.

Alex Crimson · Post by **Alex Crimson** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:07 pm #29114

I usually just take Diamonds and 1 sheet of Gold, Silver and Uranium for research. Better get my damn drill. Ive seen a few people get all prissy and demand that Miners should be bringing all their materials to R&D, but that really isnt the Miners job. Get it yourself, lazy bums.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:06 pm #29200

Alex Crimson wrote:I usually just take Diamonds and 1 sheet of Gold, Silver and Uranium for research. Better get my damn drill. Ive seen a few people get all prissy and demand that Miners should be bringing all their materials to R&D, but that really isnt the Miners job. Get it yourself, lazy bums.

cargo could do their actual jobs and use the mail system

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:33 pm #29347

WHAT'S THAT? CARGO DOING THEIR JOBS PROPERLY?

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:09 pm #29537

Scott wrote:WHAT'S THAT? CARGO DOING THEIR JOBS PROPERLY?