Gallows/Nooses

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:31 pm #346081

What's a lynching good for if not for hanging?

You know you want it.

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:33 pm #346082

This needs to be a thing, I want them to spawn at the brig front.

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:03 pm #346098

THEYLL HANG BY THEIR TAIL

AnonymousNow · Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:17 pm

Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:28 pm #346150

Anonmare - 26th Febuary 2017 wrote:Make nooses craftable from cable coil.
Wearing a noose on your own neck and either right-clicking or alt-clicking (Or anyone who drags your sprite onto theirs can) hang it from a ceiling. While hanging from a ceiling, you are considered to be restrained and cannot move or be pushed/pulled in any manner.
You quickly take oxygen damage while being hung but you can resist out of it as you would if you were cuffed after half a minute, unless you're handcuffed already in which case you need to resist out of the cuffs first. You do not take oxygen damage if there is no gravity in your area or you belong to a NO_BREATH species.

Yes, I am suggesting the ability to actually be able to lynch people.

Pascal125 · Post by **Pascal125** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:33 pm #346153

Hippie has these.

Digdugxx · Post by **Digdugxx** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:02 am #346162

Hippie also lets you pull out people's teeth with wirecutters

1g88a · Post by **1g88a** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:09 am #346170

AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.

It'd make for a nice way for sec to conduct executions, though I guess they could always meathook people which has a sorta peculiar charm to it. I remember a time when HoG was in and while I was wandering around trying to figure out what to do (I never did) I discovered the enemy cult leader burnt to a crisp, popehat still on, hanging upside down from a meathook in the middle of the courtroom.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:15 am #346171

AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.

This. Also, there is no ceiling.

1g88a · Post by **1g88a** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:17 am #346173

cedarbridge wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.
This. Also, there is no ceiling.

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Hathkar · Post by **Hathkar** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:38 pm #346339

cedarbridge wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.
This. Also, there is no ceiling.

They're bluespace gallows and nooses that connect to a ceiling elsewhere.

I'm also for new and interesting ways to suicide in SS13. Bring in nooses.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:44 pm #346344

cedarbridge wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.
This.

I remember when hippie added hanging with wire

Hathkar wrote:I'm also for new and interesting ways to suicide in SS13. Bring in nooses.

why can't this just be a line of text for suiciding with a cable coil (eg. "[name] is wrapping a wire around their throat - it looks like they're trying to commit suicide!") or something instead of some meme feature that probably won't be used except to encourage more lame racism shit

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:00 pm #346357

Its not racism its spieciesism

Post by **Atlanta-Ned** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:37 pm #346366

AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.

The Clowns Pocket · Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:23 pm

If we didn't have liggers, I'd actually support this as a way to (literally) lynch WGW readers

Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:28 pm

AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.

What does this actually mean that you're so afraid of
That it will be used to beat a lizard corpse for a round or two? People do that regardless

feem · Post by **feem** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:28 pm #346394

PKPenguin321 wrote: What does this actually mean that you're so afraid of
That it will be used to beat a lizard corpse for a round or two? People do that regardless

If you don't realize that this will change RACE WAR NOW from a few rounds a day to literally every other round for at least a month after implementation, then you should think about it awhile until you realize it will.

And after that month is over, I'd like you to ask yourself what this actually adds to the game.

Qbopper wrote:
why can't this just be a line of text for suiciding with a cable coil (eg. "[name] is wrapping a wire around their throat - it looks like they're trying to commit suicide!") or something instead of some meme feature that probably won't be used except to encourage more lame racism shit

In fact, this is already implemented, you just have to have a stool.

Code: Select all

/obj/item/stack/cable_coil/suicide_act(mob/user)
	if(locate(/obj/structure/chair/stool) in get_turf(user))
		user.visible_message("<span class='suicide'>[user] is making a noose with [src]! It looks like [user.p_theyre()] trying to commit suicide!</span>")
	else
		user.visible_message("<span class='suicide'>[user] is strangling [user.p_them()]self with [src]! It looks like [user.p_theyre()] trying to commit suicide!</span>")
	return(OXYLOSS)

John_Oxford · Post by **John_Oxford** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:05 pm #346401

>you can hang white players
>you can hang lizards
>you can hang fly people
>you can hang plasmamen
>you can hang black players

you're the one making it about race bopper.

feem · Post by **feem** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:18 pm #346414

John_Oxford wrote:>you can hang white players
>you can hang lizards
>you can hang fly people
>you can hang plasmamen
>you can hang black players

you're the one making it about race bopper.

Have you met our players?

Don't be disingenuous.

cedarbridge · Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:50 pm

feem wrote:
John_Oxford wrote:>you can hang white players
>you can hang lizards
>you can hang fly people
>you can hang plasmamen
>you can hang black players

you're the one making it about race bopper.
Have you met our players?

Don't be disingenuous.

John_Oxford

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:10 pm #346446

feem wrote:
John_Oxford wrote:>you can hang white players
>you can hang lizards
>you can hang fly people
>you can hang plasmamen
>you can hang black players

you're the one making it about race bopper.
Have you met our players?

Don't be disingenuous.

i wish you hasn't quoted that because it was so intelligent i can't handle it

feem wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote: What does this actually mean that you're so afraid of
That it will be used to beat a lizard corpse for a round or two? People do that regardless
If you don't realize that this will change RACE WAR NOW from a few rounds a day to literally every other round for at least a month after implementation, then you should think about it awhile until you realize it will.

And after that month is over, I'd like you to ask yourself what this actually adds to the game.

feem stop fucking writing my posts for me

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:47 am

Nooses aren't racist, don't be Goon-tier pussies that deny ideas because "it COULD be racist!!"

feem · Post by **feem** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:06 am #346460

ShadowDimentio wrote:Nooses aren't racist, don't be Goon-tier pussies that deny ideas because "it COULD be racist!!"

Even a cursory examination of the historical context of the noose, at least in the United States -- which I understand is not inclusive of everyone who plays on our servers -- shows that more than enough cultural baggage exists alongside the noose to indicate, at the very least, that it is often associated with racist imagery.

The connotation didn't come out of a vacuum: this particular interpretation of the noose as signifier is directly correlated to white supremacist use of it as a tool of intimidation.

So while you're correct that a noose, in and of itself, is not a racist object, it is very definitely used in that fashion, and not only to great effect but also with absolute intent.

The third post in this thread was "THEYLL HANG BY THEIR TAIL".

There have just been several high-profile threads on either side of the "can we lynch all liggers" meme.

As I asked above: have you met our playerbase?

The new question: is there any way you think adding this would turn out well for the administrators or players of this game?

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:54 am #346469

You don't even need to bring in real-world historical context for nooses and lynching. Literally the reason they were proposed was for lynching mino...lizards.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:23 am #346478

already been said but to add to the pile: why the fuck would you need to look at the real world context, one of the earliest posts was about hanging lizards

the race war gimmicks are horribly unfunny at this point and encouraging them with a feature that ACTUALLY adds nothing of value to the game is retarded

Aloraydrel · Post by **Aloraydrel** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:42 am #346490

ShadowDimentio wrote:Nooses aren't racist, don't be Goon-tier pussies that deny ideas because "it COULD be racist!!"

Stormweenie detected

Super Aggro Crag · Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:54 am

Nooses are dumb

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:03 am #346497

I wasn't talking about lizzers, I was talking about cat people you dumb dumbs

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:03 am #346498

calzilla1 wrote:I wasn't talking about lizzers, I was talking about cat people you dumb dumbs

missing the point: the post: the movie

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:05 am #346501

Qbopper wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:I wasn't talking about lizzers, I was talking about cat people you dumb dumbs
missing the point: the post: the movie

JOKE

Ur stupid head

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:18 am #346503

calzilla1 wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:I wasn't talking about lizzers, I was talking about cat people you dumb dumbs
missing the point: the post: the movie
JOKE

Ur stupid head

missing the point: the post: the movie: the novelization: the anime: the popup book

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:25 am

feem wrote:The new question: is there any way you think adding this would turn out well for the administrators or players of this game?

I think the admins are severely overstating the amount of players that would take this being added as validation to break rules and kill people fnr, and if they aren't breaking the rules then lynching lizards/antags/sec/heads/cats/niggers/everyone is just a particularly grandiose murderbone gimmick, which I would say is good.

Creative ways of breaking up the normal monotony of the rounds is always a good thing until it gets stale, and I'd be lying if I didn't find the idea of a traitor in a bedsheet jumping people and dragging them into maint for a lynching to be pretty damn entertaining.

imblyings · Post by **imblyings** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:45 am #346513

why would we be concerned if we already ban for it

granted we have meathooks but it's not like I wouldn't want to also decorate the bridge or brig with assistants in a different way, feel me?

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:45 am #346514

Qbopper wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:I wasn't talking about lizzers, I was talking about cat people you dumb dumbs
missing the point: the post: the movie
JOKE

Ur stupid head
missing the point: the post: the movie: the novelization: the anime: the popup book

JOKE
<a quintrilion miles
Your dumb fat stupid head

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:09 am #346524

ShadowDimentio wrote:
feem wrote:The new question: is there any way you think adding this would turn out well for the administrators or players of this game?
I think the admins are severely overstating the amount of players that would take this being added as validation to break rules and kill people fnr

i don't really think many people would overescalate and if they do they eat a ban so who cares, that isn't really the point being made

and if they aren't breaking the rules then lynching lizards/antags/sec/heads/cats/niggers/everyone is just a particularly grandiose murderbone gimmick, which I would say is good

in what universe is "lol i take ur tail and hang u" clever or fun for parties other than the person doing the lynching

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:27 am

It's a big step up in creativity from mindless murderbone

Also literally what other interpretation of what he asked is there

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:12 am #346560

calzilla1 wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:I wasn't talking about lizzers, I was talking about cat people you dumb dumbs
missing the point: the post: the movie
JOKE

Ur stupid head
missing the point: the post: the movie: the novelization: the anime: the popup book
JOKE
<a quintrilion miles
Your dumb fat stupid head

look at all this fucking denial lmao

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:17 pm #346622

The point always goes down hill after the movie. Blame Hollywood.

Also, nooses are dumb.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:16 pm #346633

I'm a fan of the execution pyre but sadly security rarely burns people at the stake anymore. We definitely need more ways to publicly execute people.

Gigapuddi420 · Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:17 am

AnonymousNow wrote:Honestly, the "RACISM IS A FRESH AND FUNNY MEME GUISE" crowd doesn't need more fuel for their dumpster fire.

Using a meatspike is basically the spess equivolent of hanging people anyway. People will find a way to lynch with or without the noose. I like the idea of nooses and traitors/suicides hanging from nooses.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:14 am #346914

i think you're also kinda missing the point

Post by **Cobby** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:59 am #346924

Qbopper wrote:i think you're also kinda missing the point

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say people understand the point you're making, they just think having them for funny situations would outweigh the few people who use it to HANG THE LIGGERS!

feem · Post by **feem** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:11 am #346927

i'm willing to watch the train wreck happen, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised by how many people aren't terrible

Post by **oranges** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:33 am #346929

if the digg admins like feem, qbopper and cedar are against, I support it

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:51 am #346943

thot_slayer wrote:if the digg admins like feem, qbopper and cedar are against, I support it

What's your digg account so I can make one and send you gold?

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:21 pm #346995

ExcessiveJMadison wrote:
Qbopper wrote:i think you're also kinda missing the point
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say people understand the point you're making, they just think having them for funny situations would outweigh the few people who use it to HANG THE LIGGERS!

the point I'm trying to make is that the funny situations would last for a day or two and then it would be used for the edgy racism memes, but I could be wrong, it's happened before

thot_slayer wrote:if the digg admins like feem, qbopper and cedar are against, I support it

this man has given me 3-4 instances of digg gold

Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:54 pm

feem wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote: What does this actually mean that you're so afraid of
That it will be used to beat a lizard corpse for a round or two? People do that regardless
If you don't realize that this will change RACE WAR NOW from a few rounds a day to literally every other round for at least a month after implementation, then you should think about it awhile until you realize it will.

And after that month is over, I'd like you to ask yourself what this actually adds to the game.

Only I don't think they would do that (maybe for a day) for that long. Killing a lizard is just killing a lizard regardless of how you do it, and people have been doing it for a long time. They would get bored much faster than that.

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am

kind of pointless, sec already have the electric chair and the lethal injection for executions (Hahaha as if 90% of executions aren't carried out by rank and file officers with their boots in the hallway while the clown honks his applause)

Lazengann · Post by **Lazengann** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:29 am #348065

I'd like it if they had a satisfying SNAP sound effect.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:16 pm #348224

This is for hanging humies please dont misinterpret