New stuff/changes for cult

[Pybro]

So, I decided to take a crack at coding stuff for cult. Only, I quickly ran out of ideas.

So far what I've got working is:

-The tome now works like the crayon. That is, you translate the words and input them into the tomes dictionary. When the required words for a rune are translated and input, you can set the rune. Whenever you use the tome on a floor or wall, it draws that rune on the floor/wall you clicked.

-Wall runes. While all runes that can be drawn on floors can also be drawn on walls, there isn't much point to it (Having a sacrifice rune on a wall would be silly for example). Runes on wall are directional, working like how APC's, firealarms, and pepper spray fillers do (That is, they are "on" a floor tile, but the sprite is moved 32 pixels to the north/south/east/west)

-Of interest in the wall runes are wall talismans. These work like how imbuing paper does, wherein one puts the wall imbue rune on a wall, then puts a a stun, EMP, blind, deafen, or teleport rune next to it. You then use the imbue rune. This creates a "wall talisman" flat up against the wall similar to how directional windows work. When you bump into them, you activate them. They only activate if the "window" is bumped. They only trigger for non-cultists. The prevent people putting up stun mazes, wall runes can only be drawn on walls. The wall talisman is single use only. Wall talismans can be removed by whacking it with the null rod or a tome.

Other ideas include:
-A permanent teleport wall talisman that doesn't go away
-Adding onto that, a separate mini-away mission. Hell, a pocket dimension that is full of traps, nasty runes, and a generally hostile environment. Plus this lets admins do "Colonizing hell" events.
-A !NOTBehelit. Like a soulstone, but can be used for a variety of other things. The only problem is not making it either useless or overpowered.

So, what do you all want to see in cult?

[Balut]

Is the !NOTBehelit my bleeding-thing-on-a-stick that pays the brute damage for runes and screams and fucks people up with bullshit cursey stuff and screams and makes you bloody and leaves bloodtrails and is generally creepy and shit.

[Pybro]

Yes. The idea being that it would be a "living" item like MMI's and Soulstones. It would occasionally twitch and scream and stuff, could only communicate via the Commune ability (Which non-cultists would just hear as it wailing endlessly).

The issue with it was whether or not it should be able to move on its own. I was thinking that it could have a 10 second cooldown power/verb to move it a single tile and be too big to fit in a box/backpack (But can fit on someones belt/pocket(?)) to avoid the issue of the holder getting himself killed in maint like a dumbass and stranding it in a box.

[soulgamer]

Make deconverting cultists take a bible, some cuffs of any sort, and a bed or chair. Bible is used on cultist that is cuffed to the chair. This begins the deconversion process that can take from 30 seconds to a minute as the evil spirit is exorcised from the body. During this time both the cultist and person deconverting them cannot move or break free from cuffs.

[PKPenguin321]

How about conversion runes can use 1-3 people, but with two people all chanters and the person on the rune have to stay still for maybe 30 seconds and with one person it takes like a minute or something. Still encourages teamwork without making you absolutely fucked without it if your team is incompetent while also disallowing "surprise convert rune in hallway mlg 1 man converts ayy lmao"

so like when a ling takes a while of sitting still to eat his prey in a dark maint hall but with cultists but you can also have three cultists and its instant still

[Xhuis]

How about conversion runes can use 1-3 people, but with two people all chanters and the person on the rune have to stay still for maybe 30 seconds and with one person it takes like a minute or something. Still encourages teamwork without making you absolutely fucked without it if your team is incompetent while also disallowing "surprise convert rune in hallway mlg 1 man converts ayy lmao"

I brought the idea of a two-person (or one-person, for that matter) convert and everyone yelled at me.

[Pybro]

Changeling grab-absorption takes a time of 150 per step (There are 3) to complete and drawing a rune as it currently is takes 50. Putting handcuffs on someone takes 30 seconds.

So like 100 seconds for a single man conversion, 50 for a 2 man conversion, and instant for 3?

[Bombadil]

I dont like the crayon rune idea unless it allows me to stack emp runes on a single tile can it do that?

Behelits are created from a random ghost. You can feed a Behelit soul stones to gain powers such as turning into armored Nar'sie human hybrid thing

[PKPenguin321]

Changeling grab-absorption takes a time of 150 per step (There are 3) to complete and drawing a rune as it currently is takes 50. Putting handcuffs on someone takes 30 seconds.

So like 100 seconds for a single man conversion, 50 for a 2 man conversion, and instant for 3?

I didn't have any exact numbers in mind that's kind of up to you but yeah that sounds great

[Xhuis]

Putting handcuffs on someone takes 30 seconds.

Don't you mean 3? It has a time of 30 in the code but that's basically 3 seconds.

[AnonymousNow]

More cult options, huh?

How about arcane spellcasting? Have certain spells be available if enough blood-research, or whatever, is done towards it. Maybe that'd require more steps and balancing, though.

Alternate endgame goals for cultists would be great, too. What about a sort of super-construct otherthing, that moves around slowly and liquefies/converts the brains of people in its range? Call it the Mind Batterer, and make it as difficult to make as Nar-Sie.

[Balut]

How about arcane spellcasting? Have certain spells be available if enough blood-research, or whatever, is done towards it. Maybe that'd require more steps and balancing, though.

What does this actually mean? Arcane as in like what, a Space Wizard? Because Cult and Wizard are like totally different flavor-wise.

[DemonFiren]

Going all Dragon Age style blood-mage as high-end cultist would be...interesting, though.

[Snakebutt]

How about arcane spellcasting? Have certain spells be available if enough blood-research, or whatever, is done towards it. Maybe that'd require more steps and balancing, though.

What does this actually mean? Arcane as in like what, a Space Wizard? Because Cult and Wizard are like totally different flavor-wise.

Demon has a good idea, blood magic. Perhaps an alternative to tome magic, you can summon a magic knife with your talisman. You charge the knife by attacking humans with it, and can use the charge to cast spells (perhaps ling style, only blood instead of DNA?)

Obviously loud and obvious as fuck. Perhaps make them tougher and more robust than the equivalent robe/sword cultist, or just move that completely over to this 'style', but they get it easily, adding a heavy hitter to the slow and weak cult team. Or everyone could do this and just murderbone the station.