Remove the Captain

[datorangebottle]

Inspired by policy discussion on restricting head antagonism.

I almost want to see what the game is like without the captain role. No all-access. No spare ID. Move special objective items to the showroom and the disk to the HoS or HoP. The captain is almost always a powertripping cunt who sticks his finger in everyone else's pie and has nothing to do otherwise. Turn his office on every map into a bridge staff break room or something.

This would remove all-access as a thing entirely. Acting captain antagonism is no longer an issue. No single figure is in control of the station- each head has charge of their own section, but should encourage cooperation with other departments to achieve goals.

[terranaut]

nations 2.0

[Valorium]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em. As long as their equipment is preserved in one form or another, it'd be at least an interesting experiment.

[terranaut]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[Farquaar]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[Bawhoppennn]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[Indie-ana Jones]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[Stickymayhem]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[Rohen_Tahir]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[cacogen]

why do people suggest these radical changes with absolutely no justifiable reason for them other than they want to knock out a wall and see what happens

captain is very integral on lowpop btw because you're like an all-access assistant that at different points has to take care of everything because nobody else is around to do it

[FantasticFwoosh]

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

[cacogen]

why are you just empty quoting the person before you?

[Rohen_Tahir]

why do people suggest these radical changes with absolutely no justifiable reason for them other than they want to knock out a wall and see what happens

It's probably related to the thread being posted on the 1st of April.

[Helios]

Captain is an executive. It's like the CEO of a corporation. If medbay doesn't do their job, the bodies pile up, if engineering doesn't do their job, the power goes out, and station breaches start leaking out all the heat and atmosphere.
Anyways. No Captain station would be fine. I would suggest that it is more then a text toggle, that the contents of the captains chamber change. In terms of game text-change, I'd say that all the heads become "Vice-President", joke being they're all Vice President so don't have real authority over one another. Captain is dead, and there's not one replacement, there's 5

[datorangebottle]

why do people suggest these radical changes with absolutely no justifiable reason for them other than they want to knock out a wall and see what happens

It's probably related to the thread being posted on the 1st of April.

It has nothing to do with april fool's, thanks.

Hm. Honestly, the only reason the Captain exists normally is to basically be a pile of goodies for whomever murks 'em.

That's terribly wrong. The captain functions as the bridge between departments and as an arbiter in the event of a conflict. If the station goes to shit, he has the ability to fill in whereever people are needed, without having to worry about his department first. And since the captain has access to all department chats, he should have the highest amount of information of what's happening after only the AI.

The issue is that when he's not necessary, he's still sticking his face in everyone's business and making a mess of things, and he's the best at doing so because access can't stop him and he has nothing better to do.

captain is very integral on lowpop btw because you're like an all-access assistant that at different points has to take care of everything because nobody else is around to do it

Integral on deadpop, maybe. On lowpop, there should be at least one person in each department(except security because we don't have any lowpop sec gamers on sybil), and skeleton crew access should take care of things from there.

Captain is an executive. It's like the CEO of a corporation. If medbay doesn't do their job, the bodies pile up, if engineering doesn't do their job, the power goes out, and station breaches start leaking out all the heat and atmosphere.

He's an unnecessary figurehead. Medical's not going to just stop healing people because the captain doesn't exist.

[oranges]

no thanks

[Valorium]

I suppose my statement should be given the following addendum:

Captains *usually* fit the bill I described (and I say that as a semi-frequent Captain player). It'd be good if they *didn't*.

I apologize for the confusion.

[RandumbPhantomb]

This is stupid, an head of staff antagonist literally has nothing standing in their way. A heretic could be sacrificing somebody in their office, and nobody can do anything

[Rohen_Tahir]

This is stupid, an head of staff antagonist literally has nothing standing in their way. A heretic could be sacrificing somebody in their office, and nobody can do anything

Sir, the post above you is 1.5 years old.

[Atlanta-Ned]

The captain is almost always a powertripping cunt who sticks his finger in everyone else's pie and has nothing to do otherwise.

That's the point of captain.

[BlueMemesauce]

This is stupid, an head of staff antagonist literally has nothing standing in their way. A heretic could be sacrificing somebody in their office, and nobody can do anything

kid named AI

seriously when has the captain ever ran over to open the door for someone, it's always the AI