Remove Gender option
- TheTerbs
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Remove Gender option
genders are not represented properly here, I say we leave a "fill in your own" gender option, and the ability to add boobs or a dick to any character
when examining it will refer to them as "it is wearing x"
my other is remove gender entirely, and just be able to have tits or a dick if you want, everyone will be of various genders other than cis types
when examining it will refer to them as "it is wearing x"
my other is remove gender entirely, and just be able to have tits or a dick if you want, everyone will be of various genders other than cis types
you're gonna carry that weight
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Re: Remove Gender option
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Re: Remove Gender option
adding to the april fools checklist
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Re: Remove Gender option
genderqueers: 1iamgoofball wrote:adding to the april fools checklist
Cis scum: 0
you're gonna carry that weight
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Re: Remove Gender option
"I want character description so i can be a chick w/ a dick"
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Re: Remove Gender option
It's more controversial than it is worth to even attempt, and I certainly doubt it will work in this community.
If you can't handle playing a male or female in a video game, why are you playing a game as offensive as SS13 on a server as offensive as /tg/?
If you can't handle playing a male or female in a video game, why are you playing a game as offensive as SS13 on a server as offensive as /tg/?
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Re: Remove Gender option
Wow, Terbs. I thought you were progressive. I guess I was wrong, if you're someone who just assumes pronouns like that... The only option for true equality is to be able to select your own pronouns on your character profile and have the game use them to refer to you properly.TheTerbs wrote: when examining it will refer to them as "it is wearing x"
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Re: Remove Gender option
It'd be a huge change since we currently use byond's helpful gender macros, \he and \his. The reference says only the following are valid:
"neuter"
"male"
"female"
"plural"
We could theoretically replace all instances of \he and \his with [src.pronoun] and [src.pronounPossessive], and add those qualities to /mob/, but that wouldn't compile because the macro is really helpful. It grabs the gender of the last entity mentioned, like so:
user.visible_message(pick("<span class='suicide'>[user] is pressing [src] to \his temple and activating it! It looks like \he's trying to commit suicide.</span>", \
(Sorry for the triggering example. honk)
So in that case we'd have to use [user.pronoun] and [user.pronounPossesive], which means the replacement would be a nightmare and look ugly in the code.
No, I think it's fine as-is. It's only natural for spacemen who don't know any better to assume any spaceman with boobs is female, and the inverse. It's easy to make an androgynous character through hairstyle, clothing, and behavior. I just checked to be sure and, as far as I can tell, none of the hairstyles are gender-specific. Only guys can get facial hair though... meh, I doubt that's a problem.
"neuter"
"male"
"female"
"plural"
We could theoretically replace all instances of \he and \his with [src.pronoun] and [src.pronounPossessive], and add those qualities to /mob/, but that wouldn't compile because the macro is really helpful. It grabs the gender of the last entity mentioned, like so:
user.visible_message(pick("<span class='suicide'>[user] is pressing [src] to \his temple and activating it! It looks like \he's trying to commit suicide.</span>", \
(Sorry for the triggering example. honk)
So in that case we'd have to use [user.pronoun] and [user.pronounPossesive], which means the replacement would be a nightmare and look ugly in the code.
No, I think it's fine as-is. It's only natural for spacemen who don't know any better to assume any spaceman with boobs is female, and the inverse. It's easy to make an androgynous character through hairstyle, clothing, and behavior. I just checked to be sure and, as far as I can tell, none of the hairstyles are gender-specific. Only guys can get facial hair though... meh, I doubt that's a problem.
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Re: Remove Gender option
wow i didn't mean it like that dick, i was making it easy on coders, i would rather us be able to choose our real genders that we are than be put in "him" or "her" pilesCheridan wrote:Wow, Terbs. I thought you were progressive. I guess I was wrong, if you're someone who just assumes pronouns like that... The only option for true equality is to be able to select your own pronouns on your character profile and have the game use them to refer to you properly.TheTerbs wrote: when examining it will refer to them as "it is wearing x"
so fuck off, im not dehumanizing my non cis gendered companions by suggesting they be referred to as "it"
being FORCED to be "male" or "female" is complete bullshit you can't force me to be "him" or "her", being forced to be a him or her is the true crime here
you're gonna carry that weight
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Re: Remove Gender option
I saw this while closing the idea tab out, made me open it back just to look.
10/10 made me look.
10/10 made me look.
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Re: Remove Gender option
Allow neuter or no gender as a option.
appeal me now ok think about it admin u could have a friend a friend who comes down to ur house and listens to ur words but doesnt respond to them because he knows that words are for the weak and physical violence is the superior form of communication but u wont accept this ur scared ur stuck in the prefix of pretification yea thats right ur sitting there stuck to the floor from ur goopy liquid glue sweat unable tro answer the door guess whos there its my friend spooner who is requesting appeal me
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Re: Remove Gender option
You mean have eunuchs?
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Re: Remove Gender option
/d/ might like this for reasons.
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Re: Remove Gender option
Make it a slider, with lots of space to go beyond just male or female, or somewhere in between.
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Re: Remove Gender option
So what, from ubermale to uberfemale?
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Re: Remove Gender option
Who and who?
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Re: Remove Gender option
Eunuchs are still referred to with male pronouns (if they identify as male), they do not become "it".
Which means "neuter" pronouns are confusingly named, yeah. I'm sure people would choose them occasionally but they're not worth the UI option and the amount of accidental offensiveness. An admin can var-edit your gender if you ask, though, and it does update your pronouns (but only to he/she/it/they).
Which means "neuter" pronouns are confusingly named, yeah. I'm sure people would choose them occasionally but they're not worth the UI option and the amount of accidental offensiveness. An admin can var-edit your gender if you ask, though, and it does update your pronouns (but only to he/she/it/they).
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Re: Remove Gender option
Realized, thank you though for clarification for others.Rolan7 wrote:Eunuchs are still referred to with male pronouns (if they identify as male), they do not become "it".
I was probably confused somewhere... Hell, I still am.
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Re: Remove Gender option
No worries, I had to look it up!
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Re: Remove Gender option
a crazy hermit grandpa and a russian woman who went to bayAseaHeru wrote:Who and who?
dezzmont wrote:I am one of sawrge's alt accounts
dezzmont wrote:sawrge has it right.
Connor wrote:miggles is correct though
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Re: Remove Gender option
why is this thread still here
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Re: Remove Gender option
Good question.
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