[Ausops] (4 Merged threads)
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[Ausops] (4 Merged threads)
EDIT: I've merged the 4 threads to keep everything in one place (so people don't have to skip between them all to reference things).
In future if an admin locks a thread but you need to add/want to reopen a topic ASK A MOD OR ADMIN to reopen it. You don't need to remake the thread, you can even mention it was locked. But multiple threads on the same topic are confusing. Cheers ~ PAS
Byond account and character name: Tornadium - Multiple Names
Admin: Ausops
Time incident occured: 12:15PM GMT
Detailed summary:
Locked my appeal post : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=5390
Not bothering to even speak to me about it. I make a post that to sum it up says administrating random searches is impossible because a lot of people lie and you will ban too many innocent players and gut security if you try to enforce administrative policy on people who claim random searches.
Apparently with my "History" this is the final straw.
What history? I had two notes in two years, one of them was me admitting to a mistake and taking a ban for it. Then the security clusterfuck a few months back where every single ban was overturned and it was even proven that ADMINS were lying in order to get me banned due to personal dislike.
You think I'm an angry, confrontational and vindictive person, Well sorry to say if you speak to people in the manner you speak to people you can't be surprised if people react in the same way with you. Of course I'm confrontational, I'm sorry that me wanting to directly deal with something instead of pussyfooting about it makes me unsuited to play on this server.
I'm remaking my appeal, You're basically just banning me because you personally don't like me.
In future if an admin locks a thread but you need to add/want to reopen a topic ASK A MOD OR ADMIN to reopen it. You don't need to remake the thread, you can even mention it was locked. But multiple threads on the same topic are confusing. Cheers ~ PAS
Byond account and character name: Tornadium - Multiple Names
Admin: Ausops
Time incident occured: 12:15PM GMT
Detailed summary:
Locked my appeal post : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=5390
Not bothering to even speak to me about it. I make a post that to sum it up says administrating random searches is impossible because a lot of people lie and you will ban too many innocent players and gut security if you try to enforce administrative policy on people who claim random searches.
Apparently with my "History" this is the final straw.
What history? I had two notes in two years, one of them was me admitting to a mistake and taking a ban for it. Then the security clusterfuck a few months back where every single ban was overturned and it was even proven that ADMINS were lying in order to get me banned due to personal dislike.
You think I'm an angry, confrontational and vindictive person, Well sorry to say if you speak to people in the manner you speak to people you can't be surprised if people react in the same way with you. Of course I'm confrontational, I'm sorry that me wanting to directly deal with something instead of pussyfooting about it makes me unsuited to play on this server.
I'm remaking my appeal, You're basically just banning me because you personally don't like me.
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Reason: Edit/merge
Reason: Edit/merge
- imblyings
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Re: [Ausops] Closing my appeal/Lying
too bad. Rule 0.
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[Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Trying to get a hold of MSO or someone.
Previous Complaint here : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5391
Appeal 1 : https://www.tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewt ... =34&t=5390
Appeal 2 : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5392
I mean honestly? Is this how headmins are behaving now?
Closing complaints made about them and appeals with no discussion or justification?
Previous Complaint here : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5391
Appeal 1 : https://www.tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewt ... =34&t=5390
Appeal 2 : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5392
I mean honestly? Is this how headmins are behaving now?
Closing complaints made about them and appeals with no discussion or justification?
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Your appeals are being closed for a reason. It would be a good idea to stop.
tedward1337 wrote:Sae is like the racist grandad who everyone laughs at for being racist, but deep down we all know he's right.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
No they have not,Saegrimr wrote:Your appeals are being closed for a reason. It would be a good idea to stop.
The reasoning for my ban has not been made clear. I made a post that everyone can clearly see is talking about attempting to admin random searches. I did nothing at all to warrant a permanent ban.
My complaints are getting locked too with a simple "No". Are admins even allowed to close complaints about themselves?
I mean honestly?
- CPTANT
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Not to be an ass, but closing a complaint that is against yourself before anyone can even reply just doesn't make any sense.
edit: I would also like to point out that I still find it hasn't been made clear at all what this "final straw" was that keeps being referenced.
edit: I would also like to point out that I still find it hasn't been made clear at all what this "final straw" was that keeps being referenced.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
The original post wasn't saying that Tornadium lies to admins about random searches, it was saying that people can lie to admins about random searches. That Tornadium is one of them wasn't stated.
Even if the ban is valid under Rule 0, it'd probably be best to keep the complaints open so it doesn't look like an abuse of power - and as a Rule 0 ban, he can complain about it.
Even if the ban is valid under Rule 0, it'd probably be best to keep the complaints open so it doesn't look like an abuse of power - and as a Rule 0 ban, he can complain about it.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
I'm not sure how any of this is valid under role 0 since I didn't do anything. The trigger was me calling the idea of trying to regulate something which is based entirely on the witness testimony of both parties retarded. It will always been the officers word against the other person.TheNightingale wrote:The original post wasn't saying that Tornadium lies to admins about random searches, it was saying that people can lie to admins about random searches. That Tornadium is one of them wasn't stated.
Even if the ban is valid under Rule 0, it'd probably be best to keep the complaints open so it doesn't look like an abuse of power - and as a Rule 0 ban, he can complain about it.
I don't see how that is me being a dick, that's just stating a fact.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
The post I made in the policy discussion was the "final straw".CPTANT wrote:Not to be an ass, but closing a complaint that is against yourself before anyone can even reply just doesn't make any sense.
edit: I would also like to point out that I still find it hasn't been made clear at all what this "final straw" was that keeps being referenced.
Not sure what exactly is wrong with that post.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
>locking your own admin complaint
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Seems I was also per-emptively banned from Support Bus before I even tried to join it.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
good point tsar but nothing will come of it because even if I am deadminned and tornadium reinstated with full apologies by the rest of adminbus, it won't matter to me. That being said, he's not a player that should have been taken off his first perma in the first place.
Go do something else.
Go do something else.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
I was never perma'd before the recent security issue. The permaban I received was because admins LIED in order to try to get a permaban to stick.imblyings wrote:good point tsar but nothing will come of it because even if I am deadminned and tornadium reinstated with full apologies by the rest of adminbus, it won't matter to me. That being said, he's not a player that should have been taken off his first perma in the first place.
Go do something else.
The way you are handling this is a joke to be honest, You're banning me literally because I disagreed with you in a policy thread.
You still haven't even told me why a post that everyone can see isn't against the rules or did anything wrong suddenly makes you think it's okay to permanently stop me playing on the server.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
don't care, I haven't lied, you've been rule 0'd, goodbye.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
I've been rule zero'd because I DISAGREED WITH YOU IN A POLICY THREAD.imblyings wrote:don't care, I haven't lied, you've been rule 0'd, goodbye.
Seriously?
Are you trying to justify a permanent ban because I made a post that disagreed with your rationale? The ban reason was where you lied because this has nothing to do with how I play the game.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
I'm assuming I'll have to go directly to MSO about this?
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
-snip-
Sorry double post.
Sorry double post.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Goodbye tornadium, see you on singulo
like puunches you got rule zeroed because nobody likes you.
like puunches you got rule zeroed because nobody likes you.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
What about me making a policy discussion post about how enforcing search policy is a bad idea a rule 0 issue?oranges wrote:Goodbye tornadium, see you on singulo
like puunches you got rule zeroed because nobody likes you.
Like is that really how we want TG to be portrayed? Disagree with a headmin and you get permabanned for highlighting issues with his idea?
Makes absolutely no sense, especially when my so called History is an influencing factor of notes that SHOULD have been removed.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
you don't even seem to understand and thats sad
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
What's sad?oranges wrote:you don't even seem to understand and thats sad
I didn't do anything at all worthy of getting permad. Hell I didn't do anything worthy of ANYTHING happening, the post I made was in no way dickish it was simply stating a fact.
The ban was based on me making a post that didn't break rule 0, the bans that were used as justification should have had their notes removed because they were ruled as horseshit bans. They weren't like shortened or whatever they were straight up removed because they were bad bans.
The ban wasn't even triggered by anything. He literally just decided he didn't like me and banned me. Last I checked headmins don't just perma people because of personal dislike. Nothing I did was dickish, I did nothing that broke rule 0 and I didn't do ANYTHING ingame to warrant a permanent ban from the server.
Edit : Bad Grammar.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:
Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:
Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:
Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:
Yep.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Typing on a phone is hard, Thanks for pointing that out lol.Zilenan91 wrote:Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:Tornadium wrote:don't do anything at all worthy of getting permadoranges wrote:
Yep.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
I find it hard to believe you missed my point.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
What was it? That I said don't do anything rather than didn't do anything?Zilenan91 wrote:I find it hard to believe you missed my point.
I clarified that I didn't actually do anything worth of action anywhere, forums or ingame to trigger this ban. Its like someone takes a personal dislike, person has no issues and doesn't do anything and suddenly gets tacked with a perma because they felt like doing it.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Holy shit you're so fucking dense
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Then please, explain it.Zilenan91 wrote:Holy shit you're so fucking dense
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Ok we all know Tornadium has been a PITA more than once.
But perma banning him when the direct cause is someone misreading a forum post of him in policy discussion is kinda sad.
But perma banning him when the direct cause is someone misreading a forum post of him in policy discussion is kinda sad.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Quoting from singulo (bad idea I know)CPTANT wrote:Ok we all know Tornadium has been a PITA more than once.
But perma banning him when the direct cause is someone misreading a forum post of him in policy discussion is kinda sad.
Whether this is entirely accurate or not, a post that could be taken as encouraging sec players to just lie to admins whenever they get bwoinked because the admins can't prove anything one way or the other is a pretty poor idea.>>61363
No it was the one where he says you can just lie to admins when asked why you randomly searched a guy and make up a bullshit excuse because no one can prove you did not have that bullshit reason
I assume he finally got banned for that bullshit because he constantly lies when questioned why he permabrigged / killed someone as security
See: That one time where he killed a guy he thought was a cultist for having a paper - that paper did not exist and he lied about it being there because he knew admins can't prove the paper did not exist, due to the way the logging works
tl;dr he lies to admins because they can't prove he's not due to the way stuff is logged + posting about lying to admins to make up a bullshit reason to search someone because they can't prove you wrong = long overdue perma
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Oh yeah, I won't deny I can be an asshole. Everyone can be an asshole.
Can we at least be clear that this ban is because someone felt there was enough justification to completely misinterpret and exaggerate what I said in a forum post in order to justify and ban they have wanted for a long time?
Can we at least be clear that this ban is because someone felt there was enough justification to completely misinterpret and exaggerate what I said in a forum post in order to justify and ban they have wanted for a long time?
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Oh wow.Screemonster wrote:Quoting from singulo (bad idea I know)CPTANT wrote:Ok we all know Tornadium has been a PITA more than once.
But perma banning him when the direct cause is someone misreading a forum post of him in policy discussion is kinda sad.
Whether this is entirely accurate or not, a post that could be taken as encouraging sec players to just lie to admins whenever they get bwoinked because the admins can't prove anything one way or the other is a pretty poor idea.>>61363
No it was the one where he says you can just lie to admins when asked why you randomly searched a guy and make up a bullshit excuse because no one can prove you did not have that bullshit reason
I assume he finally got banned for that bullshit because he constantly lies when questioned why he permabrigged / killed someone as security
See: That one time where he killed a guy he thought was a cultist for having a paper - that paper did not exist and he lied about it being there because he knew admins can't prove the paper did not exist, due to the way the logging works
tl;dr he lies to admins because they can't prove he's not due to the way stuff is logged + posting about lying to admins to make up a bullshit reason to search someone because they can't prove you wrong = long overdue perma
Really? I make a post pointing out something that someone had to point out and because it's me I get perma'd because people want to assume I lie to admins?
Why on earth would I actively come out and say "Oh yeah I lie to you, you can't do anything. Sucks huh?". Any reasonable human being would read what I said and understand the meaning. It is next to impossible to police a policy on random searches because people lie.
Saying that I was actively fucking encouraging that behavior after calling it bullshit is quite a stretch.
With regards to that singulo post, That's a gross oversimplification.
The dude also did have paper, that came out a day or two later. So there wasn't actually any lies being told there. I made a mistake after seeing two dudes be shifty and one of them had paper in their hand. I ate a ban for that. No lies were told at the end of the day and that was proven.
It's somewhat hilarious how I'm now being accused of constantly lying when admins DELIBERATELY lied about what I did in an attempt to make a permaban stick.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
Yeah but you're an asshole all the time. He already rule zero'ed you even if the original reason was BS, please just go nice and quiet into that good night.Tornadium wrote:Oh yeah, I won't deny I can be an asshole. Everyone can be an asshole.
Can we at least be clear that this ban is because someone felt there was enough justification to completely misinterpret and exaggerate what I said in a forum post in order to justify and ban they have wanted for a long time?
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
lmao bye tornadium, see you on the other side brother.
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Re: [Ausops] Closing two appeals and Admin Complaint
I'm a fan of dubs and there has never been a better chance to score dub dubs, one for appeals and one for complaints.
I will reiterate though, that this is just me. I'm quite sure other admins will never have to resort to what I'm doing now, nor would they break standards to do so.
I will reiterate though, that this is just me. I'm quite sure other admins will never have to resort to what I'm doing now, nor would they break standards to do so.
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[Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Well time for round 3.
Other admins and the other two headmins even agree you shouldn't be fucking closing your own admin complaints dude.
So kindly stop doing it. Get one of the other two to close it if they really want to but considering how perplexed they are about this ban they'll probably at least think about it before they do it.
Previous Complaint here : viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5391
Previous Complaint 2 Here : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5394
Appeal 1 : https://www.tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewt ... =34&t=5390
Appeal 2 : viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5392
Other admins and the other two headmins even agree you shouldn't be fucking closing your own admin complaints dude.
So kindly stop doing it. Get one of the other two to close it if they really want to but considering how perplexed they are about this ban they'll probably at least think about it before they do it.
Previous Complaint here : viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5391
Previous Complaint 2 Here : https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5394
Appeal 1 : https://www.tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewt ... =34&t=5390
Appeal 2 : viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5392
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
please go
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Fine I'll do it thenTornadium wrote:shouldn't be fucking closing your own admin complaints dude.
EDIT: Nevermind they stole my mod powers
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Why are you so desperate to close this?
I went into IRC and last night and spoke to a bunch of people and everyone is perplexed as fuck as to why I'm getting rule 0'd.
Even the other headmins said that the post wasn't worthy of a Rule 0.
I went into IRC and last night and spoke to a bunch of people and everyone is perplexed as fuck as to why I'm getting rule 0'd.
Even the other headmins said that the post wasn't worthy of a Rule 0.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
You know at this point you might just be better off finding another server to play on until things cool down a bit.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
I'd like to find out what this is actually about to be honest about it.Jacough wrote:You know at this point you might just be better off finding another server to play on until things cool down a bit.
This is the flimsiest rule zero that I've ever seen. Neither headmin to my knowledge understands or agrees with it and several admins acknowledged that it's basically just down to Ausops and his group of friends personally not liking me.
The post I made wasn't even a bad post or a dickish post.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
I don't think the post is the issue at all
The ban reason itself is that you're just not a good player
The ban reason itself is that you're just not a good player
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
There's a point where you need to learn to just fuck off.
tedward1337 wrote:Sae is like the racist grandad who everyone laughs at for being racist, but deep down we all know he's right.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Based on what though?TechnoAlchemist wrote:I don't think the post is the issue at all
The ban reason itself is that you're just not a good player
This ban was not triggered by anything I did ingame. All of the so called "Bans" I had were overturned because they were shit so there is absolutely nothing wrong with my ingame conduct.
If another headmin is even perplexed as fuck as to why this is happening I think it warrants more than a "nope, lock".
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Well, consensus among those admins posting here seems to be - and correct me on that - that you're not awful for any one specific action that is bannable, but for the sum total.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Ok. since I can apparently ask the same question in 3 different trheads without anyone taking the effort to give a decent answer:
Can we PLEASE finally discuss why Tornadium was banned in the first place for a misread forum post?
Can we PLEASE finally discuss why Tornadium was banned in the first place for a misread forum post?
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Except in the ban reason it was justified with my "history" which should have been wiped out because every ban or job ban I had was overruled because the bans were utter shit and based on admin lying to try to get them to stick.DemonFiren wrote:Well, consensus among those admins posting here seems to be - and correct me on that - that you're not awful for any one specific action that is bannable, but for the sum total.
So how can bans where I did nothing wrong, were based on lies and overturned be used against me?
This is entirely based on me not rolling over and eating shit and accepting the previous bans I got. That was made perfectly clear last night. Certain admins are pissed at me because I didn't drop the issue and harbor that grudge.
The other two headmins are confused and don't think I should be rule 0'd as do other admins. I at least want a fair accounting and for Loller and Jordie to talk to Ausops before you just close this shit again.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
There is no answer that's the thing.CPTANT wrote:Ok. since I can apparently ask the same question in 3 different trheads without anyone taking the effort to give a decent answer:
Can we PLEASE finally discuss why Tornadium was banned in the first place for a misread forum post?
Ausops and Saeg in particular have been hunting for a reason to drop a perma on me for a while now and have been pretty open about doing it.
Loller is perplexed by the ban and wonders why of all things this triggered a rule 0. I hadn't been playing in the last week or so, so I can't imagine anything I did ingame triggered this kind of response. Most other people read my post for what it was, pointing out that you can't police a system based on witness testimony.
Hell even J_Madison and Oranges acknowledged it had fucking nothing to do with the post, Just what people could forcefully interpret to justify a ban that they wanted for a long time because I didn't roll over and accept getting wrongfully banned.
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
Ausops, For fuck sake don't lock this one.
Of course Ikarrus posts this because he finally got the ban he wanted from 2012.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ad#p140305
Of course Ikarrus posts this because he finally got the ban he wanted from 2012.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ad#p140305
- imblyings
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Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
>I've never had a legit ban or note honest
>all those bans were based on lies by boogeymen admins
>I'm innocent and not a detriment to tg why would you ever think this
>Hey
You should have been reperma'd the moment you put admins through bullshit that you've been perma'd in the past for, when dealing with your validhunting ban earlier. Nobody really wants to deal with your shit, I had to do it then because I'm dumb enough to take the role of headmin and these things eventually end up on my plate.
>cptant
>listening to Tornadium's posts
>taking them seriously
>thinking Tornadium is self-aware enough to realize why he's being rule 0'd
>actually taking his blatant lies towards all his bans being overturned to be fact
No the more you let him talk, the messier this mess gets. It's the kind of problem you simply eject from a community, instead of letting it fester. MSO/other headmins are free to take me off the txt but they should think twice before unbanning him.
>all those bans were based on lies by boogeymen admins
>I'm innocent and not a detriment to tg why would you ever think this
>Hey
You should have been reperma'd the moment you put admins through bullshit that you've been perma'd in the past for, when dealing with your validhunting ban earlier. Nobody really wants to deal with your shit, I had to do it then because I'm dumb enough to take the role of headmin and these things eventually end up on my plate.
>cptant
>listening to Tornadium's posts
>taking them seriously
>thinking Tornadium is self-aware enough to realize why he's being rule 0'd
>actually taking his blatant lies towards all his bans being overturned to be fact
No the more you let him talk, the messier this mess gets. It's the kind of problem you simply eject from a community, instead of letting it fester. MSO/other headmins are free to take me off the txt but they should think twice before unbanning him.
The patched, dusty, trimmed, feathered mantle of evil +13.
- imblyings
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:42 pm
- Byond Username: Ausops
- Location: >using suit sensors
Re: [Ausops] Continuing to be shit
have a (You)Tornadium wrote:Ausops, For fuck sake don't lock this one.
Of course Ikarrus posts this because he finally got the ban he wanted from 2012.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ad#p140305
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