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That's not how the phrase "the die has been cast" works J_Madison.ERP is once again disallowed
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Jmad are you for real my grandma? I am sorry i dont call more often
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
That's because you've got your own erection for hunting ERPers and its more amusing to watch you fume over being told no.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
It's over, it's not my concern. I've more matters than to get erp unbanned because "one guy ruined it".
However I'm amused the erp gang is out to defend their cover for metagaming.
This was discussed in IRC, the decision was made in 30 seconds.
However I'm amused the erp gang is out to defend their cover for metagaming.
This was discussed in IRC, the decision was made in 30 seconds.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Are me, Saeg and chairman Mao an ERP metagang now? Sexy
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
No. I just recognise Mao as one of them.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
First of all, that isn't Mao, that's just some old as fuck guy I screencapped from a (relatively recent) Chinese military parade vid. Second, how does one person constitute a gang?J_Madison wrote:No. I just recognise Mao as one of them.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Meet me in the turbine in 10 minutes, i've got atmos access. ;)Wyzack wrote:Are me, Saeg and chairman Mao an ERP metagang now? Sexy
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
ill show u a gang...
and some bang as well )))
and some bang as well )))
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Just use a private server for this shit, honestly. I don't see the appeal in doing it with the knowledge that a pile of dead players could be hovering over your character, watching your cringey autism leak into the game. or an admin could instantly gib you at moments notice. Most of your peers would look down on your stupid shit.
Pros:
Easy to set up.
No admins will fuck with you.
No players will fuck with you.
You're not bothering anyone.
It's private.
Cons:
Absolutely fuck all.
And if "Nobody did it, anyways." Then nobody's going to miss it. What are you guys trying to prove anyways, that you can freely bonk some unknown person's character on a 2D Spaceman game? What is the point.
Pros:
Easy to set up.
No admins will fuck with you.
No players will fuck with you.
You're not bothering anyone.
It's private.
Cons:
Absolutely fuck all.
And if "Nobody did it, anyways." Then nobody's going to miss it. What are you guys trying to prove anyways, that you can freely bonk some unknown person's character on a 2D Spaceman game? What is the point.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
People who ERP publicly (i.e. on the server, with the knowledge that ghosts are around and that we have public logs) don't do it for RP reasons, or even for titillation; they do it for the shock factor, because they explicitly want people to see them. If they didn't want people to see their nefarious misdoings, they'd do it in private.
If people want to WooHoo, that's fine (if somewhat weird, given that both parties are most likely fifty-year-old neckbeards), but don't do it where any old ghost can just hover over you and have their mind scarred.
If people want to WooHoo, that's fine (if somewhat weird, given that both parties are most likely fifty-year-old neckbeards), but don't do it where any old ghost can just hover over you and have their mind scarred.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
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Well, with ghosts able to see all the emotes in the world by default the ERP could be taking place anywhere and you'd still find a flock of ghosts observing closely and calling for blood.
Well, with ghosts able to see all the emotes in the world by default the ERP could be taking place anywhere and you'd still find a flock of ghosts observing closely and calling for blood.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
The cycle continues.
Bets for how long it stays banned this time are now open!
I say 9 months.
Bets for how long it stays banned this time are now open!
I say 9 months.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I don't get what the drama is, and why it needs to rebanned. Ghost ears exists for a reason. Don't like it? Turn that shit off. Again, Don't ERP in the fucking bar, use the Dorms or Gateway. Although In my experience, Some admins have been pretty chill about it however others threw a complete fucking fit.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
please just keep it banned this time, if you unban it again it's just gonna cause another lizard flood for a few weeks
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Today only I am inverting this rule on basil. Not engaging in sexual activity at least once per round will lead to gibbing and weekbans
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Good god this was hilarious! Haha!Bluespace wrote:talking getting a laugh ERP'ing
here's my famous ERP log on another server.
http://pastebin.com/XNk0vQSi
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I was pretty much utterly neutral on erp until recently, might have even voted to keep it. However, what really pissed me off about erp, was that erpers and observers were acting like they were entitled to admins killing the erpers in some hilarious way every single time. When I would simply delete them, the erpers and observers would bitch and moan that it wasn't funny or interesting. Erping opening you up to admin shenanigans was fine, until people felt entitled to their erping being responded to with shenanigans.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
except the rule was ERP was explicitly allowed, but you could expect admin shenanigans
Simply deleting a person is not shenanigans and you should not have interfered with ERP unless it was explicitly becoming quite bad.
Was that not clear to people?
Simply deleting a person is not shenanigans and you should not have interfered with ERP unless it was explicitly becoming quite bad.
Was that not clear to people?
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Bring back erp. It was fun for everyone.
I got to play as a swarm of bees stinging a captain and clown to death for erping in the Ai chamber.
All involved parties and deadchat had fun.
Also, let me in, I'm the fun fairy.
You like fun, don't you guys?
I got to play as a swarm of bees stinging a captain and clown to death for erping in the Ai chamber.
All involved parties and deadchat had fun.
Also, let me in, I'm the fun fairy.
You like fun, don't you guys?
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
It was a total waste of time. Frankly I don't know why anyone every bothered with it.
Having been involved in the process at all is making me feel unclean.
Why did I ever vote in the elections?
Having been involved in the process at all is making me feel unclean.
Why did I ever vote in the elections?
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Except that this was explicitly not the case. The rules were very clear that admins could do absolutely whatever (including gib/delete) and you had no right to complain. I am pretty sure Kor made a point of having this be very clear.oranges wrote:except the rule was ERP was explicitly allowed, but you could expect admin shenanigans
Simply deleting a person is not shenanigans and you should not have interfered with ERP unless it was explicitly becoming quite bad.
Was that not clear to people?
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Caleb Robinson laughs.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I think its more that the general player expectation was that the admins would attempt to playfully fuck up ERPers instead of just deleting them.
People tend to like and remember more memorable events such as the Corgi Squad, the anti-sex Spiders or the Centcom Official showing up suddenly than someone just disappearing.
People tend to like and remember more memorable events such as the Corgi Squad, the anti-sex Spiders or the Centcom Official showing up suddenly than someone just disappearing.
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Yeah like how killing Ian made you valid and led to personal conflict and shit.Steelpoint wrote:I think its more that the general player expectation was that the admins would attempt to playfully fuck up ERPers instead of just deleting them.
People tend to like and remember more memorable events such as the Corgi Squad, the anti-sex Spiders or the Centcom Official showing up suddenly than someone just disappearing.
And then people did it constantly. Every round, just to be a dick. It got super old seeing the same faggots being faggots round after round.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Yup. Exactly. I did it for the first few times, but when it kept happening over and over I got sick of it.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Keep it banned on sybil
Nobody erps on sybil but since there's never any admins on the second server you might as well keep it unbanned there as a containment server because it doesn't cause any problems on that server as far as I've seen
Nobody erps on sybil but since there's never any admins on the second server you might as well keep it unbanned there as a containment server because it doesn't cause any problems on that server as far as I've seen
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Basil doesn't want it either.paprika wrote:Keep it banned on sybil
Nobody erps on sybil but since there's never any admins on the second server you might as well keep it unbanned there as a containment server because it doesn't cause any problems on that server as far as I've seen
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You phrased that much better than I couldSteelpoint wrote:I think its more that the general player expectation was that the admins would attempt to playfully fuck up ERPers instead of just deleting them.
People tend to like and remember more memorable events such as the Corgi Squad, the anti-sex Spiders or the Centcom Official showing up suddenly than someone just disappearing.
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The Ultimate Chimera wrote:Good god this was hilarious! Haha!Bluespace wrote:talking getting a laugh ERP'ing
here's my famous ERP log on another server.
http://pastebin.com/XNk0vQSi
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Can we stop silently rebanning this every few months we already had like at least 70% player majority in favor of keeping erp around.
Seriously if you're gonna pull this shit all the time you should be going through the same 3 month unbanning headache we put up with.
Seriously if you're gonna pull this shit all the time you should be going through the same 3 month unbanning headache we put up with.
Apparently I was an director or something.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I was wondering when W"Erp advocate and abuses his coder abilities to spawn himself just to erp and change lizard sprites to penises"Johnston would show up to give us his opinion.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I am biased, yes.
But everyone laughed their asses off. Or maybe just me. It was worth it.
Doesn't dispute the fact that undoing a 3 month long political shitfest in 30 seconds is even shittier.
But everyone laughed their asses off. Or maybe just me. It was worth it.
Doesn't dispute the fact that undoing a 3 month long political shitfest in 30 seconds is even shittier.
Apparently I was an director or something.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I don't think it's you to decide WJ, especially when you've spawned yourself as xenos to ERP, given players special snowflake sprites to ERP with, and have background in venting frustration on players that have prevented or disrupted ERP or your snowflake content.
I'd suggest taking off the rose tinted lenses and seeing it from others points of view, from promoting unfair gameplay, to giving differential treatment, and generally allowing players to be borderline creepy fucks for 4 games in a row without consequence or regard to another players experience of the game.
There's servers for ERP, and the expectation that those that do ERP deserve special treatment from other players is absurd, especially given a server not made for ERP having so few rules on making others experiences worse whilst tiptoeing ERP rules.
I've raided Citadel. Their admins know how to deal with ERP and creepy fucks that use it to mess with people. Unless direct action is taken and admins know how to deal with it, I suggest not allowing it, period.
I'd suggest taking off the rose tinted lenses and seeing it from others points of view, from promoting unfair gameplay, to giving differential treatment, and generally allowing players to be borderline creepy fucks for 4 games in a row without consequence or regard to another players experience of the game.
There's servers for ERP, and the expectation that those that do ERP deserve special treatment from other players is absurd, especially given a server not made for ERP having so few rules on making others experiences worse whilst tiptoeing ERP rules.
I've raided Citadel. Their admins know how to deal with ERP and creepy fucks that use it to mess with people. Unless direct action is taken and admins know how to deal with it, I suggest not allowing it, period.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Now that's what I call blowing something out of proportion!
Differential treatment and ERP go hand in hand because you're going to be nicer to people who you have had more interactions with, and most people ERP with people they've had a lot of IC interaction with.
Differential treatment is not a problem, it is a good thing and encourages people to not be shitheads in order to be treated better down the line.
Differential treatment and ERP go hand in hand because you're going to be nicer to people who you have had more interactions with, and most people ERP with people they've had a lot of IC interaction with.
Differential treatment is not a problem, it is a good thing and encourages people to not be shitheads in order to be treated better down the line.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Sorry, I'm not a fan of treating others better because of IC relationships. It's borderline metagaming, unfair on other players, and a double standard on being acceptable to treat others better, but unacceptable to treat them worse. Not to mention drama it creates and undermines rules and spirit of the game.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Perhaps the reason you get very angry over names and human interaction in general is because of your background on 8chan.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I'm pretty sure treating others different based on your relationship to them is called being a human being. There is no precedent to treat everyone equally, we only draw a line if you're giving people all access if they're your friends, or giving them large advantages over other players.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Eh, it's understandable, but so often the line is crossed but less often does anything happen about it. And I'm only seeing unfair advantages. It's less often now.
Probably a good thread for policy discussion if it hasn't been made.
Probably a good thread for policy discussion if it hasn't been made.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
It was made after once where some guys got yelled at by HG for "being too friendly to each other"
Yes it was just as dumb as it sounds
Yes it was just as dumb as it sounds
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
No fun allowedJ_Madison wrote:Sorry, I'm not a fan of treating others better because of IC relationships. It's borderline metagaming, unfair on other players, and a double standard on being acceptable to treat others better, but unacceptable to treat them worse. Not to mention drama it creates and undermines rules and spirit of the game.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
is there a reason literal ad hom attacks are allowed to stay or whatZilenan91 wrote:Perhaps the reason you get very angry over names and human interaction in general is because of your background on 8chan.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Because bringing stupid arguments to people arguing for stupid things is par for the course here
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Anonymity is just what they do on the chans. It's not ad hom that's literally what his background is
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
I'm beginning to think this thread has run its course.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
Don't mind jmadison's "no relationships ever" thing. It has nothing to do with this thread.
The point here is that reverting a super long held vote and political shitfest without any public discussion in a matter of seconds, yet again, is not cool. This happens on a consistent basis, but it's still not okay to do.
Because if it were, why do players get any say in anything at all? Why would the town hall subforum even exist?
The point here is that reverting a super long held vote and political shitfest without any public discussion in a matter of seconds, yet again, is not cool. This happens on a consistent basis, but it's still not okay to do.
Because if it were, why do players get any say in anything at all? Why would the town hall subforum even exist?
Apparently I was an director or something.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
savage afZilenan91 wrote:Perhaps the reason you get very angry over names and human interaction in general is because of your background on 8chan.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
bandit wrote:I'm beginning to think this thread has run its course.
Ohw before it is closed, can we we do a collective "I told you so" with all the people who said this was exactly what would happen if ERP was unbanned again?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
This isn't a democracy. I'm sorry if you guys have been fooled into thinking it is, but frankly it's barely even a republic. You guys voted Kor in; the admins voted HG in. You were choosing the people you thought would do best for the server with absolute power. Have you considered, maybe, that the reason it's so easy to get ERP banned and so difficult to get it unbanned is because the admins want it banned? That's just the way it is. Only the headmins get the privilege of deciding policy; nobody else does. If they don't want something around, why should they keep it around?
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Re: ERP is once again disallowed
nobody is blaming the system dude.
what they're blaming is that they're going for shit that isn't a problem and then they're going to use it as ammunition as if they actually fixed something.
you've taken one step forward and then took a shortcut and ended up 20 steps backwards. congrats you played yourselves.
what they're blaming is that they're going for shit that isn't a problem and then they're going to use it as ammunition as if they actually fixed something.
you've taken one step forward and then took a shortcut and ended up 20 steps backwards. congrats you played yourselves.
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