[Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
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[Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Byond account and character name: Dave - fjkrake
Admin:
I dont know which admin did it exactly, there were 4 online during the round. The ingame name of the admin that renamed the station was "Hugs-The-Furries"
Ive inserted Shadowlights name into the topic title because he was the highest ranking admin online at that time. Heres a complete list of mins online at said time:
LilahNovi is a TrialAdmin
Shadowlight213 is a HeadAdmin
Okand37 is a TrialAdmin
KorPhaeron is a HeadAdmin
Time incident occured: 06/20/16 - 3.13 AM sever time
Detailed summary:
Rolled Captain as "high" and without anyone else to contest, to play the "Republic of Dave" mini RP. Turn out as assitant. Adminhelp why I didnt get the captainship. Ignored, no response, by all 4 mins. Then a character whos not on the crew manifest "Hug-The-Furries" names the station FurryStation13. Obviously a badmin character.
Look for the Character ingame, sure enough, a spawned character inside the Thunderdome area.
I find this unacceptable because:
1. Fucking with the pregame rolls FNR instead of legitimately rolling Captain and playing the role, leaving us without Captain for the shift.
2. Ignoring ahelps about the issue completely to "sweep it under the rug" instead of being honest about it, like grown ups.
All this to name the station "FurryStation 13", which is a shitty joke at best.
Admin:
I dont know which admin did it exactly, there were 4 online during the round. The ingame name of the admin that renamed the station was "Hugs-The-Furries"
Ive inserted Shadowlights name into the topic title because he was the highest ranking admin online at that time. Heres a complete list of mins online at said time:
LilahNovi is a TrialAdmin
Shadowlight213 is a HeadAdmin
Okand37 is a TrialAdmin
KorPhaeron is a HeadAdmin
Time incident occured: 06/20/16 - 3.13 AM sever time
Detailed summary:
Rolled Captain as "high" and without anyone else to contest, to play the "Republic of Dave" mini RP. Turn out as assitant. Adminhelp why I didnt get the captainship. Ignored, no response, by all 4 mins. Then a character whos not on the crew manifest "Hug-The-Furries" names the station FurryStation13. Obviously a badmin character.
Look for the Character ingame, sure enough, a spawned character inside the Thunderdome area.
I find this unacceptable because:
1. Fucking with the pregame rolls FNR instead of legitimately rolling Captain and playing the role, leaving us without Captain for the shift.
2. Ignoring ahelps about the issue completely to "sweep it under the rug" instead of being honest about it, like grown ups.
All this to name the station "FurryStation 13", which is a shitty joke at best.
- NikNakFlak
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
I don't think admins can influence the roundstart job selections without some heavy debug fuckery, if that.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) jumped to Thunderdome (Admin.)NikNakFlak wrote:I don't think admins can influence the roundstart job selections without some heavy debug fuckery, if that.
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) spawned /obj/item/station_charter at (125,76,2)
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) jumped to the Captain's Quarters
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) modified [0x21018bc4] (/datum/job/captain)'s spawn_positions to 0
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) modified [0x21018bc4] (/datum/job/captain)'s total_positions to 0
MimicFaux deadmined themself.
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) jumped to Thunderdome (Admin.)
Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) has used rudimentary transformation on Shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell). Transforming to human; deletemob=1
HELP: FjKrake/(Dave): can you tell me how the hell I didnt get the Cap role with Captain set to high+nobody else rolling for it - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
ASAY: Shadowlight213/(Hugs-The-Furries) : shhh
ASAY: Okand37/(Rosaline K'lox) : I guess I'll leave that to you, shadow.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
1. Round isn't over. Nice IC on the forums.
2. I was going to respond myself, but you logged off when I tried to.
Edit:
3 whole minutes was too long it seems.
[03:19:21]ADMIN: HELP: FjKrake/(Dave): can you tell me how the hell I didnt get the Cap role with Captain set to high+nobody else rolling for it - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[03:21:53]OOC: Dave/FjKrake : fuck you too I gues
[03:21:55]OOC: Dave/FjKrake : Im out
[03:21:59]ACCESS: Logout: FjKrake[DC]/(Dave)
2. I was going to respond myself, but you logged off when I tried to.
Edit:
3 whole minutes was too long it seems.
[03:19:21]ADMIN: HELP: FjKrake/(Dave): can you tell me how the hell I didnt get the Cap role with Captain set to high+nobody else rolling for it - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[03:21:53]OOC: Dave/FjKrake : fuck you too I gues
[03:21:55]OOC: Dave/FjKrake : Im out
[03:21:59]ACCESS: Logout: FjKrake[DC]/(Dave)
- NikNakFlak
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Guess, rip me.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
ADMIN LOG: shadowlight213/(Jaylee Powell) has added a TEMPBAN for fjkrake (60 minutes) with the reason: "Logged out then IC on the forums." to the ban database.
ADMIN LOG: shadowlight213 has banned fjkrake.
Reason: Logged out then IC on the forums.
This will be removed in 60 minutes.
Retaliating against people for making an admin complaint is kind of rude.
ADMIN LOG: shadowlight213 has banned fjkrake.
Reason: Logged out then IC on the forums.
This will be removed in 60 minutes.
Retaliating against people for making an admin complaint is kind of rude.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
It was specifically for the IC in the forums. Yes, I admit that was dumb and the ban was lifted. Nice misrepresentation Kor.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
love this headmin cohesion
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Sure Ill take the 60 min ban and the nasty IC in OOC and what not.
Now back to the issue at hand here.
Now back to the issue at hand here.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Darn forums died.
Ban was was already lifted by kor and I removed the note. It was a dumb ban
Anyways, the reason I disabled the roundstart captain slot, was that I wanted to test out the station charter since I had never actually used it before. I was tempted to roll for captain, but I was candidating someone that round and didn't want to be admin while captain. I was going to just delete it from the captain's office but I was then informed that the captain spawned with it.
I didn't really have any way to remove it from the captain or disable it, so I disabled the roundstart captain slot.
I saw your ahelp, and was in the middle of making the name, which is why I said "shhh" as not to spoil the name change.
I was planning on handling your ahelp myself after I got the initial reaction, but I think something happened on sybil and I switched over to watch that.
When I switched back, I tried to reply to you, but you had already disconnected.
Ban was was already lifted by kor and I removed the note. It was a dumb ban
Anyways, the reason I disabled the roundstart captain slot, was that I wanted to test out the station charter since I had never actually used it before. I was tempted to roll for captain, but I was candidating someone that round and didn't want to be admin while captain. I was going to just delete it from the captain's office but I was then informed that the captain spawned with it.
I didn't really have any way to remove it from the captain or disable it, so I disabled the roundstart captain slot.
I saw your ahelp, and was in the middle of making the name, which is why I said "shhh" as not to spoil the name change.
I was planning on handling your ahelp myself after I got the initial reaction, but I think something happened on sybil and I switched over to watch that.
When I switched back, I tried to reply to you, but you had already disconnected.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
This reminds me of the people who would *succumb and ban request people who put them into crit and were dragging them to medbay.
If you'd stuck around it would have been trivial to kick you back to the lobby and free the captain slot, but you didn't.
If you'd stuck around it would have been trivial to kick you back to the lobby and free the captain slot, but you didn't.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Look, I wanna bring the point home here, so Im gonna be precise and to the point. My manners dont matter, how you handled this case, do not matter,At least not to me.palpatine213 wrote:Darn forums died.
Ban was was already lifted by kor and I removed the note. It was a dumb ban
Anyways, the reason I disabled the roundstart captain slot, was that I wanted to test out the station charter since I had never actually used it before. I was tempted to roll for captain, but I was candidating someone that round and didn't want to be admin while captain. I was going to just delete it from the captain's office but I was then informed that the captain spawned with it.
I didn't really have any way to remove it from the captain or disable it, so I disabled the roundstart captain slot.
I saw your ahelp, and was in the middle of making the name, which is why I said "shhh" as not to spoil the name change.
I was planning on handling your ahelp myself after I got the initial reaction, but I think something happened on sybil and I switched over to watch that.
When I switched back, I tried to reply to you, but you had already disconnected.
What I am pissed about is that you plain simply cheated.
When I connect to the servers and ready up for the shift I expect a fair roll of the dice and I think its reasonable to assume that everyone wants a fair shot at Antagonist roles and all that stuff. Now here I am finding out that people are able and willing to manipulate pregame rolls in such a manner.
The trust in the egalitarian nature of the "Ready" button, which gives everyone a fair shot at roles and jobs, is what makes people come back and "ready up" again and again in the first place. Very much like playing the lottery.
Please do not fuck with the pregame RNG mechanics if you can absolutely avoid it. Credibility is important, if people start thinking that there even is a possibility that rounds are rigged, youre gonna loose players.
- oranges
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
You don't have a right to a roundstart role.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
If a player isn't role ban why don't they have a secure chance on an antag/job slot?
EDIT:Grammar isn't my strongpoint
EDIT:Grammar isn't my strongpoint
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
If another player rolls Captain and you don't, are they violating your rights?
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Now, whether this is complaint worthy or not was partially invalidated by Franz rage quitting 3 minutes after ahelping due to not being captain and making a thread during the round with IC info.
So I don't think this thread serves much point, since as the admins themselves said. They were about to respond to him, but he ended up suddenly logging out.
So I don't think this thread serves much point, since as the admins themselves said. They were about to respond to him, but he ended up suddenly logging out.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Do I have a right to fair roundstart roll? Yes or No?oranges wrote:You don't have a right to a roundstart role.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
You don't even have a right to play this game yo
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
What gives you the right to post in this thread, tedward?
tedward1337 wrote:Sae is like the racist grandad who everyone laughs at for being racist, but deep down we all know he's right.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
Could you not just "test" it on a private server? Or even better, just do Select Equipment>Captain?
Seems pretty shitty to disable the Captain slot just so you could change a name, especially when you didnt really need to.
Seems pretty shitty to disable the Captain slot just so you could change a name, especially when you didnt really need to.
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Re: [Shadowlight213] Blocking Captain Slot pregame
you have no rights to anything whatsoever, we're done here
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