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Sidon · Post by **Sidon** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:28 pm #220074

Bottom post of the previous page:

Rape and sexual assault are usually used interchangeably though?

Incomptinence · Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:29 am

Rape would be a subcategory of sexual assault which would include all manner of things from groping, stalking to inappropriate language. Whole slew of shit.

It's a commonly used legal term so yeah the 1 in 5 rape misquote is pretty bad.

Honestly with real rape statistics you expect them to go under reported as victims tend to have lowered self esteem before other considerations and there isn't really a CRY RAPE SEND ANY MAN TO JAIL thing like mras wring hands over going on any significant scale (I think). Honestly it would be easier to go after men with lighter sexual assault charges which are as previously mentioned an enormous spectrum.
So by that well informed standard 30% to 40% could be the "real" number for that garbled statistic at which point any society would basically collapse rape culture or no. Like you walk into the campus and it's a blend of a viking raiding party and mad max.

aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:36 am #220109

The other issue is that shit goes underreported because as a culture we consistently shame and attack the victim while offering comfort to the attacker if he or she's important enough. If you come out with it, your name gets put on the news and the paper almost always against your wishes and despite the fact that there is no legal requirement to do so. Everyone knows what happened to you, everyone immediately forms an opinion without being there, and they put you up against the wall at every opportunity grilling you with zero regard to your safety, sanity or privacy, like it's their right to go into a traumatic experience. Then you've got faculty at universities *proven* to cover shit up because it'll make them look bad, and urging victims to stay quiet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... rd-campus/

This little shit right here got off on SIX MONTHS for raping somebody. And people SPOKE UP for him. Even when something *does* happen the sentence is rarely more than a comparative slap on the wrist for ruining somebody's life. Drug charges can get you longer than this. I'm not at all for draconian sentences and I do think prisoners have a right to fair treatment and to mercy, but this is beyond unacceptable, and worse, it's typical. Statistics or not, this is a problem. And denying that it's a problem in the face of all evidence that it is one that happens is both morally and factually wrong.

Incomptinence · Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:47 am

That would be under considerations really before any of that society at least runs on a premise of rape being a crime and victims not being fresh meat to tear apart still people don't come forward.

Sure the combination of utterly immoral institutions serving their own interest and news media ripping into anything salacious like a T-rex undermines that but at least it isn't the law.

Oh yeah and giving some shit literally caught in the act a slap on the wrist because MUH SPORTS is pretty sickening.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:04 am #220112

If you think that's bad, just remember if you're rich or have rich parents you can get away with pretty much anything, rape isn't an exception.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-her.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 67486.html

'A millionaire property developer accused of raping a teenager while she slept claims he accidentally penetrated her when he fell on top of her, a court has heard.'

The real problem with that is that rich people get a free pass to do things that those without money can't. The rich also get better PR and more vocal supporters trying to brownnose them. Rich people, and ego-tripping idiots just plain don't care. Lawyers do really well in saving them too, when it is completely clear their client was in the wrong.

That said, in more common cases the issue is that social skills are a thing not everyone has, and someone with very poor social skills(Or drunk) can very well mistake a 'Just be friends' attitude for 'She wants my cock', which then leads to him trying to be bolder, because everyone has been told all along that women like bold men who take the lead.
If he is bad enough at social skills to recognize that she is not into him, and physically powerful enough, that tends to lead down a bad road.

Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:06 am

PKPenguin321 wrote:American politics are a meme

Still holds true

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:04 am #220132

Incomptinence wrote:Oh yeah and giving some shit literally caught in the act a slap on the wrist because MUH SPORTS is pretty sickening.

Nothing to do with him being SPORTS STAR!!! and everything to do with her being so piss blind drunk theres no way of knowing if:
a. She'd changed her mind after her sister had heard her turn him down.
b. the cuts and bruises and pine needles in her hair were from him attacking her or if she'd just stumbled drunk into a bush.

The american legal system with double jeopardy, where a plaintiff can only be charged once for a crime and only tried once for that crime, means that a prosecutor is only going to charge the degree of crime they are most sure will result in a successful conviction, because if they charge first degree but fail to convict they can't then etry for a lesser degree (unlike UK law where they'll throw all the charges they can at you to see what sticks, or EU law where they'll keep retrialing you until they get the result they want).

A large problem with 'frat boy' lifestyle is because you americans treat drinking so taboo, because your kids don't have exposure to alcohol until they're off on their own, away from parents, living independent without a fucking clue how to do so... they don't have the respect and mehness to alcohol a european kid has.

Incomptinence · Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:55 am

Not too drunk to try and run when caught in the act.

onleavedontatme · Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:04 pm

Sober eyewitnesses (literally) caught him, prosecutors charged the guy with multiple felonies, a jury convicts the guy of multiple felonies with a max penalty of something like a decade, prosecutors push for a six year sentence after conviction, and Malkevin still manages to type up a wall about how the prosecutors had no choice but to let him go because of double jeopardy and it's all her fault for being drunk.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:12 pm #220149

No its because evil prosecutors threaten those poor creatures with decades in prison to force them to accept a plea deal of a couple weeks, then their life is ruined forever and they will never be able to get a job or earn a living.

Yes there are people who actually believe this

aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:50 pm #220197

I doubt you're even capable of shame, but here. Hear it in the real victim's words.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear ... ?tid=a_inl

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:55 pm

The height of tl;dr

Bad shit happens, that's life. In the grand echelons of bad things that could happen to you, rape isn't even that bad. Honestly I'd rank it below violent assault.

aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:56 pm #220200

ShadowDimentio wrote:The height of tl;dr

Bad shit happens, that's life. In the grand echelons of bad things that could happen to you, rape isn't even that bad. Honestly I'd rank it below violent assault.

Can I save this in my signature please?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:57 pm #220201

Like pottery.

onleavedontatme · Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:02 pm #220203

This post was made by ShadowDimentio who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

I feel a weight lifted off my shoulders

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:04 pm

Tfw your shitposts are too much for Shaps to handle

aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:08 pm #220205

You killed the cat you stupid mongrel

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:09 pm

Super Aggro Crag · Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:32 pm

Can we ban shadowdimentio for being a stupid irritating cuck? I mean, we've blacklisted people for less.

aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:33 pm #220210

Shadow "Rape is physically stimulating" Dimentio

ShadowDimentio · Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:59 pm

What are you actually talking about

Super Aggro Crag · Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:02 pm

Shut up, cuck.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:20 pm #220236

Lets just talk about something different

Not that this is less likely to get emotional responses

http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1674-jul ... ve-archive
Assange from wikileaks possibly dead

And journalism actually done: Project Veritas goes undercover with the DNC, records them talking about how to rig the election and how they rigged Bernie out of it(So I heard, haven't watched myself)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

And for those who think it can't happen, 10 cases where it already did
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ts-all-to/

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:39 pm #220241

I thought "Gandalf is dead" was just a /pol/ meme. If he's dead then where's all the stuff from the dead man's switch that was supposed to ignite ww3 and hand Trump the victory?

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:42 pm #220242

Christ alive XSI that website is cancer. First an add for one wierd trick to turn on any girl sprouted in the middle of the article, then a Facebook themed slot machine opened up and took the whole screen

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:19 pm #220249

>Not having adblock

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:22 pm #220252

I tried opening it on my phone. It was a mistake

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:33 pm #220306

Grazyn wrote:I thought "Gandalf is dead" was just a /pol/ meme. If he's dead then where's all the stuff from the dead man's switch that was supposed to ignite ww3 and hand Trump the victory?

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DrPillzRedux · Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:47 am

Trump proposed term limits for congress. This man is out savior.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:04 am #220373

"Saviour" interesting choice of words, seeing as he'll probably die for your sins if he tries to push that through.

ShadowDimentio · Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:51 pm

He's always been like Caesar but this'll cinch it, he's going to be clumsily stabbed to death by congress

aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:33 pm #220412

He'll be like Caesar when his command in the field contributes heavily to winning a war against a near equal force and shrewd diplomacy creates an alliance with that foe that lasts hundreds of years. Also, last I checked, Caesar didn't need a small loan of one million solidi from his father. Caesar also argued for extension of the upper class's rights and privileges to the poor despite being a praetor himself even to the point of passing laws for wealth and land redistribution, as well as arguing for mercy and assimilation to both immigrants and subjugated enemies. Seriously, your delusions border on worship at this point.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:37 pm #220413

Trump doesn't even care about winning, this was all a publicity stunt to launch his Trump TV, which will become the official cable network of the alt-right and make him even more insanely rich. I can already see him unveiling it during his concede speech.

ShadowDimentio · Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:03 pm

aranamor wrote:Seriously, your delusions border on worship at this point.

420 praise it

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:16 pm #220447

You being constantly on a drug of some sort would explain a lot, now you mention it

Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:44 pm

While this source is obviously as biased as Project Veritas itself, it's still worth a read https://www.thenation.com/article/what- ... reporters/

DrPillzRedux · Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:33 pm

XSI wrote:You being constantly on a drug of some sort would explain a lot, now you mention it

>constantly on a drug

Called life bby

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:09 pm #220544

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:17 pm #220547

DrPillzRedux · Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:01 am

This new Trump accuser is the cream of the crop. She said this. She's a porn actor who gave Trump her number and went to his penthouse with another girl.

"He grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission."

Because guys ask for permission before kissing someone in a moment. You could, you know, move away? That's assuming any of this happened.

ShadowDimentio · Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:12 am

Netflix and chill claims another poor innocent victim

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:29 am #220575

DrPillzRedux wrote:This new Trump accuser is the cream of the crop. She said this. She's a porn actor who gave Trump her number and went to his penthouse with another girl.

"He grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission."

Because guys ask for permission before kissing someone in a moment. You could, you know, move away? That's assuming any of this happened.

What did she think she was going up there for?
Polite conversation? Maybe a spot on the next Apprentice?

Screemonster · Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:08 am

it's not ogre 'til it's ogre

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:25 pm #220667

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aranamor · Post by **aranamor** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:35 pm #220675

TIL someone's profession overrides their consent and personal space. Talking to people about business in the comfort of a home is a thing that happens, not that you mongrels get visitors. It's not an invitation to get grabbed and macked on by your host. Have either of you ever even talked to a woman in real life? Someone with a different skin color? You seem to have trouble with the most basic concepts of respect and consent.

captain sawrge · Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:10 pm

aranamor wrote: Have either of you ever even talked to a woman in real life? Someone with a different skin color? You seem to have trouble with the most basic concepts of respect and consent.

i havent

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:04 pm #220709

You do realize that to become a true wizard at 30, you need to be studying magic for at least 6 years after you are 18, right?
Just avoiding women, no matter how hard you try, isn't enough

ShadowDimentio · Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:40 pm

aranamor wrote:Have either of you ever even talked to a woman in real life? Someone with a different skin color?

As if I'd associate with the filthy lower races or try to converse with my wife whom I keep chained to a wall in the kitchen. What a ludicrous idea!

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:57 pm #220737

XSI wrote:You do realize that to become a true wizard at 30, you need to be studying magic for at least 6 years after you are 18, right?
Just avoiding women, no matter how hard you try, isn't enough

Urban legend/typo.
It turns you into a lizard. Trust me on this one.

captain sawrge · Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:29 pm

DemonFiren wrote:
XSI wrote:You do realize that to become a true wizard at 30, you need to be studying magic for at least 6 years after you are 18, right?
Just avoiding women, no matter how hard you try, isn't enough
Urban legend/typo.
It turns you into a lizard. Trust me on this one.

You have the worst posting gimmick I've ever seen by a long mile.