Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
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Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
>Be me
>Greyshirt
>HoP got dunked by a carp so time to heal him
>In medbay
>Medborg runs past
>"You feel a tiny prick!"
>Oh yeah the borgs were rogue, right
>Take fuckhuge damage
>Die before I can reach an analyzer to figure out how I'm dying
This is fucking retarded. I was dead in all of about 10 seconds from one hypo injection, which is ONLY avoidable if you have armor covering your entire body, a privilege only say, 7 people on the whole station have, max. I mean look at this goddamn chem loadout.
Literally GG if you get injected with most any of this shit. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
>Greyshirt
>HoP got dunked by a carp so time to heal him
>In medbay
>Medborg runs past
>"You feel a tiny prick!"
>Oh yeah the borgs were rogue, right
>Take fuckhuge damage
>Die before I can reach an analyzer to figure out how I'm dying
This is fucking retarded. I was dead in all of about 10 seconds from one hypo injection, which is ONLY avoidable if you have armor covering your entire body, a privilege only say, 7 people on the whole station have, max. I mean look at this goddamn chem loadout.
Literally GG if you get injected with most any of this shit. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Not really that much worse then getting stunned by an engiborg and dragged into space....
or slipping on that janiborgs lube and getting the same fate.....
or slipping on that janiborgs lube and getting the same fate.....
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
>Knows Borg's are rogue
>Lets one get within melee range of him
Are you just going to use this forum to bitch about the things that kill you every day?
>Lets one get within melee range of him
Are you just going to use this forum to bitch about the things that kill you every day?
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
You speak as if this is the among the worst ways to die by an antag! Go die by a Traitor, Changeling, or Blood Cultist and get back to us.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Yeah guys obviously I'm just bad for dying in one click, maybe next time I'll git gud and heal myself faster, exdee lmao cool memes
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Aren't you the guy who has been shilling to bring parasting back for like, ever?ShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah guys obviously I'm just bad for dying in one click, maybe next time I'll git gud and heal myself faster, exdee lmao cool memes
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
nothing in the mediborg's kit kills you that fast
you're exaggerating
by the way the deadliest chem is probably the heart attack drug and just epi yourself and lolnodamage
you're exaggerating
by the way the deadliest chem is probably the heart attack drug and just epi yourself and lolnodamage
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
i think he might have a point i mean cyanide is pretty damn lethal I don't even know what heparin or sodium whatever is I mean the point is its gg unless you got charcoal or some shit
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Sure and wile I'm at it I'll throw in a prayer that in my frantic dodging the borg doesn't touch me ONCE, cause if so lmao balanced game I get to die from sodium thiopenal or whatever in ten seconds.Anonmare wrote:Have you tried not getting in melee range of a rogue borg?
Parasting just had you hold nice and still for a while, the ling still had to strangle and absorb you which took a solid minute, plenty of time for someone to bumble onto him and save you.TechnoAlchemist wrote:Aren't you the guy who has been shilling to bring parasting back for like, ever?ShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah guys obviously I'm just bad for dying in one click, maybe next time I'll git gud and heal myself faster, exdee lmao cool memes
It was 10-15 seconds and I was in crit, no joke.Cik wrote:nothing in the mediborg's kit kills you that fast
you're exaggerating
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
and by that I mean I'm agreeing with him because it happened to me and he is CORRECTISH
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
improve your gameplay
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
don't be alone
know if the borgs are rogue
you're fine
what is problem
mediborg is the only dangerous borg when subverted git gud
know if the borgs are rogue
you're fine
what is problem
mediborg is the only dangerous borg when subverted git gud
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
>Medbot clicks on you AND your friend
>Medbot clicks on you with mute then toxin
>Medbot clicks on you ever
Sorry my skill doesn't trancend to be able to ignore massive damage
>Medbot clicks on you with mute then toxin
>Medbot clicks on you ever
Sorry my skill doesn't trancend to be able to ignore massive damage
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Play sec.
Set up portable flashers, use wall flashes, pocket your flash.
Borgs are muted and stunned by flashes.
Actually on second thoughts don't play security.
Set up portable flashers, use wall flashes, pocket your flash.
Borgs are muted and stunned by flashes.
Actually on second thoughts don't play security.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
All of the ranged and stun options were removed from borgs and you're bitching that a rogue one that was allowed to get in melee range was able to kill you quietly?
Are people not going to be happy until borgs are nerfed to meditbot level functionality?
Are people not going to be happy until borgs are nerfed to meditbot level functionality?
Law 0: Secborg din do nuffin.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
It's tricky to balance this kind of thing, since our poison chems are either putrid garbage or 10-seconds-to-dead with very little in-between. More lethal chems could be removed from the module, but another interesting emag module should probably be added in its place.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Shadow, when you go out of your way to bash something - saying "this is retarded and you're a dumbass" instead of "hey, this is a problem, could you look into it" - makes people not take you seriously at all. If you keep making kneejerk threads spouting your feelings, then this isn't going to stop. For the record, I agree with you; that's why I'm not bashing you directly. PK makes a good point; this thing isn't easy to balance, and it would be hard to change this in a meaningful way without making hacked mediborgs irrelevant since they have so few tools already for antagonism.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
i ded pls nerf
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Less powerful chems, but with syringe guns instead?
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Mediborgs used to have a Polyacid spray that was pretty damn powerful until acid got nerfed into uselessness. Hell, I consider the deathchems a downgrade - the old acid module would almost always destroy your headset on the first squirt, do huge burn damage very quickly and could be used to destroy items (such as the armoury guns) easily and quickly.
Mediborgs were practically assassin borgs whenever they got emagged back then.
Mediborgs were practically assassin borgs whenever they got emagged back then.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
What if medborgs got a shovel to make chasms instead?
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Complaining about antags as a non sec role is taken with the smallest grain of salt; you are not a vs player combat role. You are not equipped or employed to do so.ShadowDimentio wrote:We in the biz call that excessively specific counterplay
Also portable flashes are used to stop rushing assistants, the same goes for wall mounted ones. You also start with a flash.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
And security has a gun that GGnore's them in one go.
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Good advice but not my style. The coders don't listen to me even when I try to be reasonable or come to the table with well-reasoned and good ideas, so why bother?Xhuis wrote:Shadow, when you go out of your way to bash something - saying "this is retarded and you're a dumbass" instead of "hey, this is a problem, could you look into it" - makes people not take you seriously at all. If you keep making kneejerk threads spouting your feelings, then this isn't going to stop. For the record, I agree with you; that's why I'm not bashing you directly. PK makes a good point; this thing isn't easy to balance, and it would be hard to change this in a meaningful way without making hacked mediborgs irrelevant since they have so few tools already for antagonism.
This would work just fine or reset their emag chem options back to being just facid, that's still plenty deadly bot not 10 seconds exdee rip tierAnonmare wrote:Mediborgs used to have a Polyacid spray that was pretty damn powerful until acid got nerfed into uselessness. Hell, I consider the deathchems a downgrade - the old acid module would almost always destroy your headset on the first squirt, do huge burn damage very quickly and could be used to destroy items (such as the armoury guns) easily and quickly.
Mediborgs were practically assassin borgs whenever they got emagged back then.
Kor wrote:What if medborgs got a shovel to make chasms instead?
So that means it's fine to get oneclicked by a medborg? Hell fucking guards aren't immune to getting oneclicked either.J_Madison wrote:Complaining about antags as a non sec role is taken with the smallest grain of salt; you are not a vs player combat role. You are not equipped or employed to do so.ShadowDimentio wrote:We in the biz call that excessively specific counterplay
Also portable flashes are used to stop rushing assistants, the same goes for wall mounted ones. You also start with a flash.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Also: you do know a borg is also cucked after being hit once with a flash, right?
I for one applaud having things on the station that actually kill you.
I for one applaud having things on the station that actually kill you.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Aren't you a borg apologist or am i losing my mind
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
you do know a guy is also cucked after being hit once with the deathchems, right? as in, they don't even have to bother to beat you to death, while they just gotta avoid you killing them or popping a calomel pill and then a charcoal one, then slowly healing. the chems actually crit within 15 seconds.CPTANT wrote:Also: you do know a borg is also cucked after being hit once with a flash, right?
I for one applaud having things on the station that actually kill you.
can you even name one other antag that has an infinitely usable way to gg in one hit besides fucking wizard shit? even ei nath requires time to charge.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
there are tons of antags that can ggnore you in very short amount of time
considering that your average AI is going to have like one mediborg and as soon as it's discovered it's going to be AI v. whole crew (including several traitors that can ggnore it in 10 seconds or less) this is literally zero issue
nerf tator he can draw revolver at point blank and kill me in .1 seconds pls
protip: if the borgs are rogue, don't let it get to melee and click on you and/or don't be alone and/or have a flash and/or an EMP and/or use the fucking console to blow it up wew
considering that your average AI is going to have like one mediborg and as soon as it's discovered it's going to be AI v. whole crew (including several traitors that can ggnore it in 10 seconds or less) this is literally zero issue
nerf tator he can draw revolver at point blank and kill me in .1 seconds pls
protip: if the borgs are rogue, don't let it get to melee and click on you and/or don't be alone and/or have a flash and/or an EMP and/or use the fucking console to blow it up wew
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Yeah traitor can do exactly the same by injecting chemicals with a sleepy pen.The unloved rock wrote:you do know a guy is also cucked after being hit once with the deathchems, right? as in, they don't even have to bother to beat you to death, while they just gotta avoid you killing them or popping a calomel pill and then a charcoal one, then slowly healing. the chems actually crit within 15 seconds.CPTANT wrote:Also: you do know a borg is also cucked after being hit once with a flash, right?
I for one applaud having things on the station that actually kill you.
can you even name one other antag that has an infinitely usable way to gg in one hit besides fucking wizard shit? even ei nath requires time to charge.
And a single poison kit probably lasts you the entire round......
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
thats a problem with the sleepy pen then, also I think that mightve gotten removed. even if that DOES work, at least you have to reload the pen.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Sleepy pen gets two uses I think. It mutes immediately and knocks out after a little while.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Only if you use it like a scrub.Anonmare wrote:Sleepy pen gets two uses I think. It mutes immediately and knocks out after a little while.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Silicon policy is dumb and secborg removal was a mistakeSidon wrote:Aren't you a borg apologist or am i losing my mind
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
it acts as a infinite-use hypospray that injects all it's reagents on use.Anonmare wrote:Sleepy pen gets two uses I think. It mutes immediately and knocks out after a little while.
So long as you keep refilling it you good to go
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
That's basically what medborgs get now, only in addition to being able to mute/stun you, it also can kill you extremely fast and has effectively limitless charges.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Just don't let them melee you and work against the AI. I have never had a Borg alone kill me. Just stand 2 squares from them.
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Just stand 2 squares away from the dual Esword man guys, just stand 2 squares away from the singularity guys, just stand 2 squares away from the pulse laser guys
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False equivalentsThe unloved rock wrote:Just stand 2 squares away from the dual Esword man guys, just stand 2 squares away from the singularity guys, just stand 2 squares away from the pulse laser guys
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
True for the second two since singulo pulls you in and the third one doesnt need to be close, but the first one is funny since it's actually not as powerful as a mediborg. Humans with eswords take slowdown from damage meaning it's easier to stay away from them, but borgs do not. They also have built in all access and bolt lifting, so good luck hiding in your department.D&B wrote:False equivalentsThe unloved rock wrote:Just stand 2 squares away from the dual Esword man guys, just stand 2 squares away from the singularity guys, just stand 2 squares away from the pulse laser guys
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Not to mention an emagged borg doesn't have a big " DO NOT GO NEAR ME " icon like the above do. If the borgs aren't declared rogue, you might very well be the one running upto the borg rather than the borg running up to you.PKPenguin321 wrote:True for the second two since singulo pulls you in and the third one doesnt need to be close, but the first one is funny since it's actually not as powerful as a mediborg. Humans with eswords take slowdown from damage meaning it's easier to stay away from them, but borgs do not. They also have built in all access and bolt lifting, so good luck hiding in your department.D&B wrote:False equivalentsThe unloved rock wrote:Just stand 2 squares away from the dual Esword man guys, just stand 2 squares away from the singularity guys, just stand 2 squares away from the pulse laser guys
With that said, one click with some of these chems is all it takes to R U I N your day. Once you see the O2 sign or your hair falling out, it's probably already too late [to even scream since the borg also has mutetoxin].
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Antag hud for all these sweet babies so they never get ambushed again.
What would damage slowdown matter in an ambush with anything decent PKP like good grief do people let you smack them in the face after they pull a revolver on you?
What would damage slowdown matter in an ambush with anything decent PKP like good grief do people let you smack them in the face after they pull a revolver on you?
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
Put the deathchems in a dart gun, with 5u per shot, recharges after a while. Medborgs will now make a noise and be valid when poisoning, can't poison two people at the same time, and in return they get range (but can miss).
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Re: Rogue Medborgs are Retarded
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