[Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
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[Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
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Admin: Lzimann
Time incident occured: When catpeople were disabled(a couple of weeks ago?), about 3:00 p.m. EST, 11/12/16.
Detailed summary: Lzimann went on and disabled catpeople about two weeks ago without having a vote or anything for it. I guess it would be okay if he gave an explanation for it, but he didn't, even when asked multiple times. He logged in today at the time listed above and disabled lizards, again, not giving a reason and logging off shortly after. I doubt he took a headmin vote for any of this, and if he did, then it wasn't publicized. Since he refuses to explain his reasoning for this, I can only assume that he is doing it to create drama. Dorsi managed to reenable catpeople, and he logged in for less than a minute, reenabled them, and left. This is not about muh snowflake race getting removed- I don't even play lizards, this is about him abusing his headmin powers to create as much drama as he can. There's actually people who enjoy playing and RPing as these races, and if this bothers you then you might have issues. Headmins were meant to represent the community, and to be honest, I think a majority of the community wants them in, or is indifferent, it's just the small and vocal minority that wants them disabled. Anyway, that's my case. I'm not that good at writing this sorta stuff, so ask me any questions you might have.
Admin: Lzimann
Time incident occured: When catpeople were disabled(a couple of weeks ago?), about 3:00 p.m. EST, 11/12/16.
Detailed summary: Lzimann went on and disabled catpeople about two weeks ago without having a vote or anything for it. I guess it would be okay if he gave an explanation for it, but he didn't, even when asked multiple times. He logged in today at the time listed above and disabled lizards, again, not giving a reason and logging off shortly after. I doubt he took a headmin vote for any of this, and if he did, then it wasn't publicized. Since he refuses to explain his reasoning for this, I can only assume that he is doing it to create drama. Dorsi managed to reenable catpeople, and he logged in for less than a minute, reenabled them, and left. This is not about muh snowflake race getting removed- I don't even play lizards, this is about him abusing his headmin powers to create as much drama as he can. There's actually people who enjoy playing and RPing as these races, and if this bothers you then you might have issues. Headmins were meant to represent the community, and to be honest, I think a majority of the community wants them in, or is indifferent, it's just the small and vocal minority that wants them disabled. Anyway, that's my case. I'm not that good at writing this sorta stuff, so ask me any questions you might have.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?
Anyways, good work Lzimann.
Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
*wagTechnoAlchemist wrote:What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?
Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
nyaaTechnoAlchemist wrote:What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?
Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
I don't think that silently making changes to things that don't affect anybody just to get a reaction, or because of some petty reason, because they're about to lose their position soon is something a Headmin, or admin for that matter, should be doing.
Especially if they're just gonna silently relog and undo another admins changes again, before logging off.
Especially if they're just gonna silently relog and undo another admins changes again, before logging off.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
read: "I need to suck off the headmins for my good boy points."TechnoAlchemist wrote:Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Doing gods work
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Not an argument
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Yes it isTechnoAlchemist wrote:Not an argument
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
I don't think riling up players for no reason or discussion two days before you're no longer headmin is productive, and I say this as someone who turned lizards off before previously and made several PRs to restrict them from certain roles. They're back on, let the next set of headmins deal with it if they really think the server will be better for it (and I mean actually better for it, trolling players fnr is something we allegedly spend all day combatting).
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
what about catpeopleKor wrote:I don't think riling up players for no reason or discussion two days before you're no longer headmin is productive, and I say this as someone who turned lizards off before previously and made several PRs to restrict them from certain roles. They're back on, let the next set of headmins deal with it if they really think the server will be better for it (and I mean actually better for it, trolling players fnr is something we allegedly spend all day combatting).
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
What about them
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Catpeople were a mistake.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Why did Aliannera just say that..
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
To make you think, really.Digdugxx wrote:Why did Aliannera just say that..
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
This really makes my synapses fire...Aliannera wrote:To make you think, really.Digdugxx wrote:Why did Aliannera just say that..
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Lizards were disabled? That's dumb, lizards are fine
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Exactly, he was doing it just to get reactions, and that's not acceptable for any admin, but especially a headmin.Shap wrote:Lizards were disabled? That's dumb, lizards are fine
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
love your justification while never bothering to say anything before removing things famlzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
then why did you not give an answer and continuously dodged the question when asked about it?lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
should have removed all of them, humans are the only TRUE species.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
It was decided ages ago that lizardpeople would only be added under the explicit promise that no other beastrace would ever be added.
That turned out to be a lie.
Catpeople have no place on the station.
That turned out to be a lie.
Catpeople have no place on the station.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Catpeople are a human mutation, not a species.CPTANT wrote:It was decided ages ago that lizardpeople would only be added under the explicit promise that no other beastrace would ever be added.
That turned out to be a lie.
Catpeople have no place on the station.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
semantics
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Let's remove slimepeople, plasma men, podmen, fly men, and changeling too. But seriously do remove flymen
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
For the record Lizards are currently/still off on sybil
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
How about we just not do things for the sake of "le epic troll".
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Well I hate to break it to you guys, inb4 this gets censored
but
a long time ago
lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.
Lzimann is covering his tail!
but
a long time ago
lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.
Lzimann is covering his tail!
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
I am honestly curious, what makes the game funner when there are only humans? I know I used to hate lizards and catpeople for awhile but that was simply because they broke my headcanon of the universe, but after I saw some very good players for both I realized how stupid it was to hate them for breaking muh headcanon. I must assume that other people must have reasons less dumb than my old reason so I am quite curious.lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
it kind of boils down to a matter of preference, i for one groan whenever any kind of race war meme appearsOwegno wrote:I am honestly curious, what makes the game funner when there are only humans? I know I used to hate lizards and catpeople for awhile but that was simply because they broke my headcanon of the universe, but after I saw some very good players for both I realized how stupid it was to hate them for breaking muh headcanon. I must assume that other people must have reasons less dumb than my old reason so I am quite curious.lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Good job removing cat people. :)
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
The real story hereDrPillzRedux wrote:Well I hate to break it to you guys, inb4 this gets censored
but
a long time ago
lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.
Lzimann is covering his tail!
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
It's cool how a headmin did something entirely to stir up shit and everyone just makes hilarious shitposts about it.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
I am curious lzimann why do something like this when your headmin term is basically over?
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason
Because I forgot to do it earlier.Wyzack wrote:I am curious lzimann why do something like this when your headmin term is basically over?
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