Let Spears Break Doors
- ShadowDimentio
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Let Spears Break Doors
There was a brief time when spears could break doors. It took like three minutes and wasn't worth it at all, but was fun if you wanted to UNGA your way into places. Bring it back.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
they still can if you sharpen them
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Sharpening only happens when the chef DOESNT sharpen his knife with the ONE sharpening stone he has.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Soo.....When can we get the second stone back?
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Camp the shuttle and kill the other chef when he arrives.firecage wrote:Soo.....When can we get the second stone back?
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
it's a rod with a shard of glass attached to it with a wire
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
And airlocks are tinfoil sheets wired to an RC car motor, your point?
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- ShadowDimentio
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
I don't want to murder the chef.TechnoAlchemist wrote:they still can if you sharpen them
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Pro tip : Throw your spear at the door until the door breaks. alternatively : Get good.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Breaking doors with spears doesn't even make sense. You're hitting a thick metal door with a piece of glass tied to the end. If anything the glass should break off the spear
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
ShhhhJacough wrote:Breaking doors with spears doesn't even make sense. You're hitting a thick metal door with a piece of glass tied to the end. If anything the glass should break off the spear
Considering that a spessman can exerte about
15.5 petajoules of energy from their arms at the weakest.
210 petajoules is the tsar bomba at its half power.
Just pushing their arm out would obliterate the airlock.
Edit: note im fucking retarded when it comes to the scientific quotations so that 15.5 petajoules most likely either 10x weaker or 100x weaker than the real number.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Where did you get 15.5 petajoules from? Unarmed melee punches? Dragging stuff?
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
From the old autism spessman research pile I did. Took an average force a human can exerte in a punch, based on mass, accelerations and spessman capabilites.TheNightingale wrote:Where did you get 15.5 petajoules from? Unarmed melee punches? Dragging stuff?
Mostly spessman can move faster than light so that's it really.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
"Average spessman punches 15.5 petajoules of energy" factoid actualy just statistical error. Average spessman punches 100 joules of energy. Spessman Georg, who lives in maint & energies over 10,000 petajoules a punch, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
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- Dagdammit
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Spears damage muh immersion, honestly. I'd like to see them get a -5 reduction in damage unless you're an ash walker or someone else with actual proficiency in primitive melee weapons.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Spears are in general the best melee weapon in real life. It takes barley any training to use one since it is just a sharp long range poking stick that can easily kill a man. Plus the distance on real spears is amazing. If anything we should allow spears to attack at least 1 tile ahead of you
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Seriously long swords weren't even a thing until Iron. You would bend the swords using them for murder. Also spears could be used for hunting and fishing. Swords were solely for murdering another human being.TheColdTurtle wrote:Spears are in general the best melee weapon in real life. It takes barley any training to use one since it is just a sharp long range poking stick that can easily kill a man. Plus the distance on real spears is amazing. If anything we should allow spears to attack at least 1 tile ahead of you
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- Okand37
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
As they say in the sweet land of skyrim, the gods gave you two hands, and you use them both for your weapon. I can respect that.
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- TheColdTurtle
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Spears are not in skyrim though because bethesda does not know how to use them.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
m-morrowindTheColdTurtle wrote:Spears are not in skyrim though because bethesda does not know how to use them.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
half the stuff that breaks doors shouldn't break doors imo
a spear is a stick with a glass shard on it it shouldn't be able to structurally damage something made out of steel
a spear is a stick with a glass shard on it it shouldn't be able to structurally damage something made out of steel
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Normal airlocks have 20 damage deflection and spears have throwforce 20, so I guess the damage would be 0? Bone spears however have throwforce 22 so they would break a door eventuallyPKPenguin321 wrote:you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
no, effective damage is not 0. i break doors with thrown spears frequently.Grazyn wrote:Normal airlocks have 20 damage deflection and spears have throwforce 20, so I guess the damage would be 0? Bone spears however have throwforce 22 so they would break a door eventuallyPKPenguin321 wrote:you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
what do you mean "damage deflection"? (there's no such thing in the game)Grazyn wrote:Normal airlocks have 20 damage deflection and spears have throwforce 20, so I guess the damage would be 0? Bone spears however have throwforce 22 so they would break a door eventuallyPKPenguin321 wrote:you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
Do you mean armour? if so, that's a percentage, so that's 20% of 20 which is 4 blocked, so 16 damage.
If you mean the damage thresholds, minimum damage required to deal damage at all, then that's just a "dmg >= dmg_threshold" check, it never alters the actual damage, meaning you'd be doing 20 (because 20 == the dmg_threshold there, which is the = part of >= )
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- Grazyn
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Yeah I was wrong, there's a var called damage_deflection, but that's the threshold and it works like you said. Throwing spears does indeed full 20 damage to normal airlocks.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors
Give spears a HP pool that goes down as they're thrown so that you have to keep rebuilding your broken piece of shit spear
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