Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate from?
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Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate from?
Without completing a series of goals?
Obviously there'd be a bad end death scenario (probably a 10 minute self destruct start/cancel in place of the shuttle) to prevent bad rounds never ending. Would an unavoidable survival goal be fun, or just feel restrictive to the free form random disaster gameplay?
Obviously there'd be a bad end death scenario (probably a 10 minute self destruct start/cancel in place of the shuttle) to prevent bad rounds never ending. Would an unavoidable survival goal be fun, or just feel restrictive to the free form random disaster gameplay?
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
There would not be many people alive if antagonists weren't controlled
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
Kind of a double-edged sword though, isn't it? You fuck over the crew enough as the antag and suddenly you can't escape either. Gives reason to keep their shenanigans at a moderate rate.TechnoAlchemist wrote:There would not be many people alive if antagonists weren't controlled
As long as the station stays as a sort of once-in-a-while ordeal, it could be pretty fun. Actual crew goals that aren't "band up against X antag" sounds good.
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It would probably work best no antagonists outside of specifically appointed admin event style ones, but i think this would be really fun to play. I know D20 station used to run a dorf fort style game mode in this vein, where the station started off incredibly bare bones and the crew had to scavange surrounding areas to get supplies and tech to build it up
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
Station goals are barely completed due to the player base. It won't cull shitty antag behavior, it will just lock the crew for a good few weeks before everyone powergames the shit out of the objectives, but that would be another can of worms.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
Only if the goals were interesting enough to make the whole thing worth it.
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sounds neat but sawrge is right
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small rewards for working on it would be nice, give some breadcrumbs and shit towards gtfo
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
I would play to see if I enjoyed it.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
I would be willing to give it a go.
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Sounds like something interesting to try out, at the very least.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
So literally the same kind of station only instead of using a shuttle to end the round you blow a nuke?
Sure, I guess. Kind of removes some of the incentive to stay alive to the end though since you would just die anyways
Sure, I guess. Kind of removes some of the incentive to stay alive to the end though since you would just die anyways
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
Kor wrote:Without completing a series of goals?
Obviously there'd be a bad end death scenario (probably a 10 minute self destruct start/cancel in place of the shuttle) to prevent bad rounds never ending. Would an unavoidable survival goal be fun, or just feel restrictive to the free form random disaster gameplay?
Sounds really fun and a good way to make people do their fucking jobs instead of calling the shuttle to fix a hull breach.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
I get the feeling this would change very little.
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I would probably only try it if it was with a group of players I liked
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
aren't many of the station systems basically unfixable though
like, atmos still doesn't have machines to actually produce oxygen; once the tanks are destroyed isn't it permanently fucked?
the gibber/crematorium can't be replaced either
i would give this a go but these "irreplaceable systems" should probably be rectified first.
in fact atmos has needed a way to actually produce gas for a long time imo but w/e
like, atmos still doesn't have machines to actually produce oxygen; once the tanks are destroyed isn't it permanently fucked?
the gibber/crematorium can't be replaced either
i would give this a go but these "irreplaceable systems" should probably be rectified first.
in fact atmos has needed a way to actually produce gas for a long time imo but w/e
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Yup, crucial points here.Cik wrote:aren't many of the station systems basically unfixable though
like, atmos still doesn't have machines to actually produce oxygen; once the tanks are destroyed isn't it permanently fucked?
the gibber/crematorium can't be replaced either
i would give this a go but these "irreplaceable systems" should probably be rectified first.
in fact atmos has needed a way to actually produce gas for a long time imo but w/e
Without ("Hold up we can fix it - add EVERYTHING to crafting except loot items") attitude rather than the rather cavalier attitude to "call shuttle i stubbed my toe" we can't be expected to fix or even compromise on a heavily map edited station with lots of map dependent feature.
Knowing WHAT these objectives are would before you do anything Kor would also be crucial, as i can't support a idea you've left vague with such a rehaul to the typical workings of the round.
- Well there's already SORT of a objective to calling evac, and that's either A.) having the station be powered to call via console OR B.) no consoles active to make the call/admin intervention.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
Sounds like it could be fun!
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
What if you COULD evacuate, but next round would be played on the station you have left behind?
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
hahahahahahaha that would be so horrible we should do itLumbermancer wrote:What if you COULD evacuate, but next round would be played on the station you have left behind?
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
What do you do if you stop the antags 15 minutes in? play until a meta vote to restart?
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
You'd still have to survive and finish the objective to escape.Dagdammit wrote:What do you do if you stop the antags 15 minutes in? play until a meta vote to restart?
Obviously yeah, if the goal isn't fun nobody will do it.captain sawrge wrote:Only if the goals were interesting enough to make the whole thing worth it.
Crew objectives (the current ones) are bad because they are boring to accomplish and their rewards are worse than the stuff you'll have done by that point in the round anyway.D&B wrote:Station goals are barely completed due to the player base. It won't cull shitty antag behavior, it will just lock the crew for a good few weeks before everyone powergames the shit out of the objectives, but that would be another can of worms.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
/me suddenly develops hearts for eyesWyzack wrote:I know D20 station used to run a dorf fort style game mode in this vein, where the station started off incredibly bare bones and the crew had to scavange surrounding areas to get supplies and tech to build it up
that said, currently it is impossible to do because tech trees are not completable from raw materials or a low tech capability (like factorio.) not that we should be able to recreate the information age from trees and a stone knife, but you can't make circuits without a circuit imprinter, and a circuit imprinter requires a circuit imprinter board, so. that should probably be fixed. as well as the atmos stuff brought up above.
THAT said i'd play the shit out of such a thing should it ever exist.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
I dunno if d20 still exists or even still has barely surviving threads on /tg/ anymore but maybe we could see about nabbing thier map/code for some inspiration? Unless Kor already has a very strong idea of what he wants to do with it of course.
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
D20 was fun for dwarf mode
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Re: Would you play on a station that you couldn't evacuate f
Yes, I would. Only if it killed all the lights and activated the fire alarm lights, along with a loud alarm noise. Gives it an OH SHIT atmosphere.
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Trying to find a way out on a station with no pods and a fucked shuttle is the most fun.
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