"Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
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"Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Prepare to leave. Pressing this button will offer control over your mob to ghosts when you close the game.
Why?
Because sometimes you know you won't return for the duration of this round. Real life has its issues. With this button, there won't be braindead people littering hallways, or if you play somewhat important role, you won't have to ahelp and ask admins to throw ghost in your body.
Yes, I shamelessly stole this idea from lifeweb
Discuss please.
Why?
Because sometimes you know you won't return for the duration of this round. Real life has its issues. With this button, there won't be braindead people littering hallways, or if you play somewhat important role, you won't have to ahelp and ask admins to throw ghost in your body.
Yes, I shamelessly stole this idea from lifeweb
Discuss please.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Could be good, I have to ahelp about this now and then.
The only problem is that some ghosts are salty and putting them back into the round will lead to bad situations.
The only problem is that some ghosts are salty and putting them back into the round will lead to bad situations.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
big red letters saying "ALL PREVIOUS LIVES ARE FORGOTTEN"leibniz wrote:Could be good, I have to ahelp about this now and then.
The only problem is that some ghosts are salty and putting them back into the round will lead to bad situations.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Not the worst idea I've heard. It would save me some effort
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
If admins can ban abusing players from being selected to take over a body then I think this is a good idea.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
If drone/pAI banned people aren't prompted it could work.Steelpoint wrote:If admins can ban abusing players from being selected to take over a body then I think this is a good idea.
It is just somewhat more complicated than policing drones since when a drone is fucking around it is obvious, but a scenario like this might be harder to notice:
>get rekt by stealth antag
>ghost
>"Do you want to play as Redshirt, the Security Officer?"
>Yes
>"Randomly" patrol into the area where you died
>Whoa, there are bloodstains and discarded equipment here, maybe something bad happened here
>Call the detective to do a forensics scan
>Apprehend suspect, good police work always pays off
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Antag is now kill.leibniz wrote:If drone/pAI banned people aren't prompted it could work.Steelpoint wrote:If admins can ban abusing players from being selected to take over a body then I think this is a good idea.
It is just somewhat more complicated than policing drones since when a drone is fucking around it is obvious, but a scenario like this might be harder to notice:
>get rekt by stealth antag
>ghost
>"Do you want to play as Redshirt, the Security Officer?"
>Yes
>"Randomly" patrol into the area where you died
>Whoa, there are bloodstains and discarded equipment here, maybe something bad happened here
>Call the detective to do a forensics scan
>Apprehend suspect, good police work always pays off
"Do you want to play as CE/RD/CMO/CRAPTAIN/HoS/OTHER HEAD/AI?"
>Yes
>REDSHIRT McDED goes missing in action. It's a double-edged sword, maybe more.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
i agree these could be issues but maybe just leave a message saying the normal "all past life knowledge is now forgotten" or somesuch. this seems like a really good idea and i'd hate for it to get shot down due to issues we face with any ghost role already.Saul_Myers wrote:Antag is now kill.leibniz wrote:If drone/pAI banned people aren't prompted it could work.Steelpoint wrote:If admins can ban abusing players from being selected to take over a body then I think this is a good idea.
It is just somewhat more complicated than policing drones since when a drone is fucking around it is obvious, but a scenario like this might be harder to notice:
>get rekt by stealth antag
>ghost
>"Do you want to play as Redshirt, the Security Officer?"
>Yes
>"Randomly" patrol into the area where you died
>Whoa, there are bloodstains and discarded equipment here, maybe something bad happened here
>Call the detective to do a forensics scan
>Apprehend suspect, good police work always pays off
"Do you want to play as CE/RD/CMO/CRAPTAIN/HoS/OTHER HEAD/AI?"
>Yes
>REDSHIRT McDED goes missing in action. It's a double-edged sword, maybe more.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Even thinking about having to investigate things when multiple ckeys are in the same body is giving me headaches.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Don't be lazy.kevinz000 wrote:Even thinking about having to investigate things when multiple ckeys are in the same body is giving me headaches.
Or just ban everyone who was in that body. No way it will be over 2 ckeys anyway.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
no
>people can and will abuse it to attain valids from salt in their past life
>people can and will fuck up my metafriend relationships
>people can and will meme as other people that had to log
if anything make it optional, if your a head and have to log and don't want someone playing as your charcter just have them delete the body.
>people can and will abuse it to attain valids from salt in their past life
>people can and will fuck up my metafriend relationships
>people can and will meme as other people that had to log
if anything make it optional, if your a head and have to log and don't want someone playing as your charcter just have them delete the body.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
I feel like I'd never use it due to fears of ghost doing something I wouldn't and people thinking it was, you know, me.
Though of course, that's already a thing in this game in several different ways- borers, lings, mindslave implants, people wearing my ID or impersonating my voice on the radio...
Though of course, that's already a thing in this game in several different ways- borers, lings, mindslave implants, people wearing my ID or impersonating my voice on the radio...
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
I kind of imply to make it optional. Did you even read the original post?John_Oxford wrote:no
>people can and will abuse it to attain valids from salt in their past life
>people can and will fuck up my metafriend relationships
>people can and will meme as other people that had to log
if anything make it optional, if your a head and have to log and don't want someone playing as your charcter just have them delete the body.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Does bring up the question of how often it'd be used if it was implemented though. People around here can be very sensitive about their precious snowflake characters. A solution would be to make it add (possessed) after their name so you don't get a shit ton of people trying to defame other players by taking over their precious Mary Sues and screaming about how they love to suck cocks over the radio.Saul_Myers wrote:I kind of imply to make it optional. Did you even read the original post?John_Oxford wrote:no
>people can and will abuse it to attain valids from salt in their past life
>people can and will fuck up my metafriend relationships
>people can and will meme as other people that had to log
if anything make it optional, if your a head and have to log and don't want someone playing as your charcter just have them delete the body.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
It is optional. If you do not press the button, your 'snowflake' is not threatened. You are offering up your mob to whomever wants it, to do with it as they please. If you are not okay with this, then simply do not press the button!Saul_Myers wrote:Pressing this button will offer control over your mob to ghosts when you close the game.
Even if you would never do this with your named character, you can certainly offer up alternate mobs, such as a Xeno, a blob, or other non-human entity.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Yeah this seems like a headache for admins.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Hence Patti of the reason I suggested the name change when someone possesses someone. If a perfectly reasonable HoS suddenly decides to grab all the guns out of the armory and go on a rampage because he gave the body up the admins would immediately know it wasn't the original player because his new name would be "blah blah (possessed)". Another option would be to log players taking over bodies in alogs or send a notification to the admins. I doubt it'd be that much of a headache to keep track of. I don't think you'd see a lot of instances of 20 people hitting the button round start or some shit like that.Shadowlight213 wrote:Yeah this seems like a headache for admins.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Maybe limit it to people who actually have important roles that would actually matter if they just dropped comatose, like heads, antags, and so on.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Just remember, lifeweb fucking sucks.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
Acting like it's unreasonable for players to be attached to their characters in a game literally defined by roleplaying is one of the dumbest things I've seen all week, maybe only matched by how out of place and immersion breaking it would be to have someone with (possessed) in their nameJacough wrote:Does bring up the question of how often it'd be used if it was implemented though. People around here can be very sensitive about their precious snowflake characters. A solution would be to make it add (possessed) after their name so you don't get a shit ton of people trying to defame other players by taking over their precious Mary Sues and screaming about how they love to suck cocks over the radio.Saul_Myers wrote:I kind of imply to make it optional. Did you even read the original post?John_Oxford wrote:no
>people can and will abuse it to attain valids from salt in their past life
>people can and will fuck up my metafriend relationships
>people can and will meme as other people that had to log
if anything make it optional, if your a head and have to log and don't want someone playing as your charcter just have them delete the body.
One character one player, if someone is in an important antagonist slot and has to go they can have an admin give someone else their status or have a ghost take over their body, but command staff can follow the infinitely easier path of just appointing someone below them to be their successor and hand off all their stuff before ghosting in dorms or walking out an airlock. There's no need for having ghosts take over bodies be automatic.
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Re: "Prepare to leave" button for those who have to go.
I don't like this idea for a whole host of reasons, I'd just add a special functionality that reports to the HoP when someone goes braindead / returns so they can assign the job to someone else at discretion, make up some fitting sounding bullshit about Chronic stress induced catatonia or temporary sensual shutdown based on weather its 'ghost' or 'closed byond'
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