[LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
- Nilons
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[LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
Byond account and character name: Nilons, Richard Maleficus
Admin: Laharl Montgommery
Time and Server incident occurred: 2/20/2017 22:40:46
Detailed summary: I was the roboticist and after going to stop the clock cult from recalling in atmos that round I went back to robotics, the emergency shuttle was almost here and I saw Mehki Anderson making a durand even though he was a greyshirt, I grabbed the armour plates in my ripley and stopped him from finishing the durand. I did all of this without hurting him. Then he got a geneticist with hulk to help him break the ripley and then put me into crit in the now oxygenless room (oxygenless due to the shuttle colliding with the station). He finished the durand, healed me, left me cuffed and threw me on the shuttle. I ahelped why its okay for greyshirts to go in and make durand's and crit people when they tried to stop them. Laharlmontgommery, who had an in character feud the previous round with me which I believe could have contributed to how little a shit he gave about my ahelp, responded. Admin PM from-Laharl Montgommery: Kill? You're plenty alive. I had included kill in my original ahelp because I didn't see myself being healed, but Laharl chose to focus on that aspect instead of my actual complaint. I responded with me apologizing for that misinformation and trying to call attention to actual issue I had. PM to-Admins: My bad, beat me to unconsciousness in a room with no oxygen. Still put me into crit for doing my job and stopping him from building a combat mech. Laharl responded being pretty rude and insinuating that it was okay that he put me into crit because he healed, regardless of why he did it. Admin PM from-Laharl Montgommery: Aaaaand he did that subdue you, and healed you back up. You don't really have a case here. After this I admit I got on edge a little bit and tried to draw attention to how fucking stupid that is by sending PM to-Admins: So as long as I heal someone I can do literally anything I wantt to them regardless of motivations? That's the message im getting here. Instead of responding to this and telling me his grievances with it he decides to leave what I think is a note (but it was labelled a message) because it shows up in my admin notes saying that they should "Probably not keep this one" it's no longer in there. All in all pretty rude, avoided the issue I was trying to get to and didn't do anything.
Admin: Laharl Montgommery
Time and Server incident occurred: 2/20/2017 22:40:46
Detailed summary: I was the roboticist and after going to stop the clock cult from recalling in atmos that round I went back to robotics, the emergency shuttle was almost here and I saw Mehki Anderson making a durand even though he was a greyshirt, I grabbed the armour plates in my ripley and stopped him from finishing the durand. I did all of this without hurting him. Then he got a geneticist with hulk to help him break the ripley and then put me into crit in the now oxygenless room (oxygenless due to the shuttle colliding with the station). He finished the durand, healed me, left me cuffed and threw me on the shuttle. I ahelped why its okay for greyshirts to go in and make durand's and crit people when they tried to stop them. Laharlmontgommery, who had an in character feud the previous round with me which I believe could have contributed to how little a shit he gave about my ahelp, responded. Admin PM from-Laharl Montgommery: Kill? You're plenty alive. I had included kill in my original ahelp because I didn't see myself being healed, but Laharl chose to focus on that aspect instead of my actual complaint. I responded with me apologizing for that misinformation and trying to call attention to actual issue I had. PM to-Admins: My bad, beat me to unconsciousness in a room with no oxygen. Still put me into crit for doing my job and stopping him from building a combat mech. Laharl responded being pretty rude and insinuating that it was okay that he put me into crit because he healed, regardless of why he did it. Admin PM from-Laharl Montgommery: Aaaaand he did that subdue you, and healed you back up. You don't really have a case here. After this I admit I got on edge a little bit and tried to draw attention to how fucking stupid that is by sending PM to-Admins: So as long as I heal someone I can do literally anything I wantt to them regardless of motivations? That's the message im getting here. Instead of responding to this and telling me his grievances with it he decides to leave what I think is a note (but it was labelled a message) because it shows up in my admin notes saying that they should "Probably not keep this one" it's no longer in there. All in all pretty rude, avoided the issue I was trying to get to and didn't do anything.
- kevinz000
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
I'm a /promoted/ greyshit. Also, you randomly stood in my cell when I got brigged by some random shitcurity officer "as a prank, bro", and kept pushing me inside and said you'd clamp me if I hit you with my fists (Oh wow that does no damage!) again.
Then, after I upgrade robotics, grab materials, and get like 2 research levels, and I'm trying to build a mech to do the same thing, you run inside with a ripley and go "Uh, no". Uh, yes, you were away being a dick to me and validhunting, and then you come back and start to drill the chassis that took time and effort to make. The hulk started punching you and I joined in (I would of did it anyways but the hulk just made me do it sooner.), and when we crit you I stopped and put you on a table and healed you, after restraining you to ensure you didn't continue. Then I made my mech and threw you on the shuttle and moved on.
tl;dr don't troll randoms you see on the station or it might come back to bite you. Oh, and don't just go "uh no" and start drilling someone's mech chassis just because.
editedit: i didn't get a geneticist with hulk to fight you, but I guess they saw you breaking robotics machinery after someone said you were a clockcultist, so I guess you deserved it for looking suspicious?
Then, after I upgrade robotics, grab materials, and get like 2 research levels, and I'm trying to build a mech to do the same thing, you run inside with a ripley and go "Uh, no". Uh, yes, you were away being a dick to me and validhunting, and then you come back and start to drill the chassis that took time and effort to make. The hulk started punching you and I joined in (I would of did it anyways but the hulk just made me do it sooner.), and when we crit you I stopped and put you on a table and healed you, after restraining you to ensure you didn't continue. Then I made my mech and threw you on the shuttle and moved on.
tl;dr don't troll randoms you see on the station or it might come back to bite you. Oh, and don't just go "uh no" and start drilling someone's mech chassis just because.
editedit: i didn't get a geneticist with hulk to fight you, but I guess they saw you breaking robotics machinery after someone said you were a clockcultist, so I guess you deserved it for looking suspicious?
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
tip from admins to players: straw man statements like this are never received well by any administratorNilons wrote:After this I admit I got on edge a little bit and tried to draw attention to how fucking stupid that is by sending PM to-Admins: So as long as I heal someone I can do literally anything I wantt to them regardless of motivations?
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
I stood in your cell for the time you were brigged, and when you attacked me I told you Id hit back if you didnt stop, totally unreasonable I know right. And just because you're an admin doesn't mean people should let you make a combat mech. I wasn't valid hunting by non violently stopping you from doing something that was incredibly dangerous to the station and the only reason you're calling me one is because it makes me look worse. If anything you're the valid hunter, you'd attack and crit someone for telling you that you can't have a mech you fucking baby
Edit: You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you.
Edit: You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
It's almost like things are handled on a case by case basis.You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
My timer was out and I found out the brigging was literally someone fucking with me fnr as I never got a reason and you stood in the door pushing me back inside when I tried to get out. Also unarmed attacks to mechs don't do damage whatsoever and if you call that attacking I don't know what to say.Nilons wrote:I stood in your cell for the time you were brigged, and when you attacked me I told you Id hit back if you didnt stop, totally unreasonable I know right. And just because you're an admin doesn't mean people should let you make a combat mech. I wasn't valid hunting by non violently stopping you from doing something that was incredibly dangerous to the station and the only reason you're calling me one is because it makes me look worse. If anything you're the valid hunter, you'd attack and crit someone for telling you that you can't have a mech you fucking baby
Edit: You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you.
Edit: I smacked your mech a single time unarmed.
Admins are treated as players when they are playing.
Also drilling an expensive mech and breaking a robotics lab is different from telling.
I intended to get you to low health and stun you with a flash to cuff you but I miscalculated so I healed you out of CRIT.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
Also do you really want me to bring up that cargonia episode because that went down way more differently.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
I'm on a phone so typing out things well is hard but when did I ever call you a validhunter?
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
It's really weird that there's a new trend coming up where you can do <not your job> but as soon as someone else does <not their job> it's like you have to try to subdue them.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
Everything I wanted to say put into better words.ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:It's really weird that there's a new trend coming up where you can do <not your job> but as soon as someone else does <not their job> it's like you have to try to subdue them.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
actually it's because kevinz000 is hypocritical about of a lot of his rulingsIrishWristWatch0 wrote:It's almost like things are handled on a case by case basis.You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
Well that's just no bueno. I take back what I saidbeerobot wrote:actually it's because kevinz000 is hypocritical about of a lot of his rulingsIrishWristWatch0 wrote:It's almost like things are handled on a case by case basis.You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
Um... How so? My note on him was something about cargonia/guncargo, how is this the same thing..?beerobot wrote:actually it's because kevinz000 is hypocritical about of a lot of his rulingsIrishWristWatch0 wrote:It's almost like things are handled on a case by case basis.You have personally given me shit for doing exactly what you did in this scenario kevin, critting someone with the intent of cryoing/healing them as a method of subdual has gotten me at least 1 talking to by you
edit: define a lot and give examples.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
if you want to whinge about some completely unrelated incident, make a separate complaint or appeal against kevinz000
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not really seeing this complaint as actionable, you got in a fight for understandable reasons from both sides and no one even died
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
To clarify slightly, I was the RD during this round and "promoted" (gave Mekhi Anderson access to standard science departments, including robotics) after he showed a fair amount of reliability and not greyshitting. The only reason his title was still Assistant was because the RD ID console can't change titles (something that should probably change).
So he was actually authorized to be there, and this comes down more to (understandable given his uniform and title on ID) workplace squabbling as opposed to robotics vs grey-tide.
I would have been around to help resolve the situation but as I recall at the time I was getting culted in the dorms.
So he was actually authorized to be there, and this comes down more to (understandable given his uniform and title on ID) workplace squabbling as opposed to robotics vs grey-tide.
I would have been around to help resolve the situation but as I recall at the time I was getting culted in the dorms.
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Re: [LaharlMontgommery] Nilons - greyshit incident
This complaint is not actionable, the admin didn't act in bad faith nor was wrong in this situation.
And I feel like it's turned more into a pseudo ban request against kevinz. So I am closing this.
And I feel like it's turned more into a pseudo ban request against kevinz. So I am closing this.
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