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Admins are not automatically D/C'd, or something else is preventing me from disconnecting, but yeah, apologies, I normally keep my computer on 24/7.[No Longer Admin] Kevinz000
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Re: Kevinz000
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Re: Kevinz000
Pls dont do thiskevinz000 wrote:Admins are not automatically D/C'd, or something else is preventing me from disconnecting, but yeah, apologies, I normally keep my computer on 24/7.
Life is too short for anything meaningful and too long for anything memeingful
Super Aggro Crag wrote: The best shitpost youll ever be responsible for will be your obituary.
Quality debate brought to you by ColonicAcid wrote:imagine having this little empathy
do you have autism bud? does your brain not see these people as humans? are they just a faceless statistic to you?
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Re: Kevinz000
I'm pretty sure even admins automatically d/c.kevinz000 wrote:Admins are not automatically D/C'd, or something else is preventing me from disconnecting, but yeah, apologies, I normally keep my computer on 24/7.
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Re: Kevinz000
I attract bugs.Archie700 wrote:I'm pretty sure even admins automatically d/c.kevinz000 wrote:Admins are not automatically D/C'd, or something else is preventing me from disconnecting, but yeah, apologies, I normally keep my computer on 24/7.
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Re: Kevinz000
One of the most Powergamey play to win shit birds I have ever seen.
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Re: Kevinz000
What?icecreamcohn wrote: shit birds I have ever seen.
Life is too short for anything meaningful and too long for anything memeingful
Super Aggro Crag wrote: The best shitpost youll ever be responsible for will be your obituary.
Quality debate brought to you by ColonicAcid wrote:imagine having this little empathy
do you have autism bud? does your brain not see these people as humans? are they just a faceless statistic to you?
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Re: Kevinz000
You misunderstood him because you only read and quoted half of his postcalzilla1 wrote:What?icecreamcohn wrote: shit birds I have ever seen.
He said,
icecreamcohn wrote:One of the most Powergamey play to win shit birds I have ever seen.
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: Kevinz000
>people don't play games to winicecreamcohn wrote:One of the most Powergamey play to win shit birds I have ever seen.
Edit: also, >you can win SS13
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Re: Kevinz000
STOP. GOING. AFK FOR MULTIPLE ROUNDS.
IT'S EXTREMELY ANNOYING.
IT'S EXTREMELY ANNOYING.
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Re: Kevinz000
halp hez griffon me
Nah, seems a'ight. I ain't noticed any outright cockmongling.
As for his issue with not auto-DC'ing, I did have that bug myself as A NON-ADMIN, so I can believe it. Was right around that same timeframe. I thought it was a new feature
Nah, seems a'ight. I ain't noticed any outright cockmongling.
As for his issue with not auto-DC'ing, I did have that bug myself as A NON-ADMIN, so I can believe it. Was right around that same timeframe. I thought it was a new feature
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Re: Kevinz000
AFK thing was a bug for everyone. Just when an admin was doing it; it caused issues as people thought they were ignoring them and it prevented any adminhelps going to IRC.
Freedom
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Re: Kevinz000
It was ping tracking that broke the afk disconnector, still broken at this time afaik, besides, afk admins no longer show in adminwho and admin messages will say if no active admins heard it. It's a non problem now.
on topic
18:42 < kevinz000> !smsg bagil forcefulcjs why would i run events if
everyone is already shitting on each other
18:43 <%oranges> kevinz000: ic in irc
18:43 <%oranges> banned
on topic
18:42 < kevinz000> !smsg bagil forcefulcjs why would i run events if
everyone is already shitting on each other
18:43 <%oranges> kevinz000: ic in irc
18:43 <%oranges> banned
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Re: Kevinz000
Finally learned/was taught how to compress his shit. Shills his bus prefab a bit much. Made me a hugbox when the CMO hardsuit and sky bulge exist.
1% of a coder, 2% of a spriter, 97% >:3c
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Random name on Bagel, usually assistant.
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Re: Kevinz000
for reference because you will inevitably change your signature and this image will be removed from it:Deitus wrote:honk honk
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: Kevinz000
im not gonna be changing my sig anytime soon, too hilarious to keep to myself
and if we're gonna be doing "for reference" posts i might as well give my side of the story
>spawn as captain
>its a good day for bad memes
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>go around doing normal stuff, nothing really happening
>shout GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS on comms
>sec gets triggered, calls for my arrest
>avoid them
>continue wandering around shouting the song of my people
>BWOINK *copypasted message from sloan cox ahelp saying if i dont shut up he'll admin and perma me*
>kek okay bro
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>get bsa'd
>oh well
>heal myself
>cult in science i think, avoid science
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>BWOINK "stop with the fucking gibe de poosie boss"
>am i breaking a rule?
>"the puunches420 (?) rule of no fun"
>okay what
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>BWOINK
>so what rule am i breaking by saying a meme
>*pause for desparate rummaging*
>"rule five on heads of staff"
>yeah cuz heads of staff are always mature and doing memes like "gas the liggers" where people are actually killed is fine when saying "gibe de poosie" isnt
>Players in a head of staff, AI/Silicon role, or a team conversion role require a minimum amount of effort; generally considered to be not logging out at or near roundstart.
Notify admins if you cannot play these roles and must leave near round start and make an attempt to inform other players IC as well for head of staff or AI roles. Abuse of a job position, particularly Rule 1 breaking abuse, is not allowed.
>"you need to be fucking mature as a head"
>costanza.jpg
>despite asspullery i demote myself to assistant and leave my ID by the cap's office console to resolve the issue
>walk out a new man
>oh wait i still have the spare ID in my box
>see hardworking janitor lizard nearby, obati-beal (probably butchered spelling)
>jani, you do a good job. take this.
>jani thanks me and i walk off
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>double bsa gibbed
>notevenmad.gif
>kevinz assblasted in deadchat
>"check your fucking notes deitus"
>see pic related
>didnt even spell my phrase right
>this will make a fine addition to my collection
>kevinz and gun hog (i think?) trying to tell me i was breaking rules for being immature as head
>okay fams despite the fairly obvious cherrypicking here, the problem seems to stem from me saying this /while a head/ right
>so ill just not do it as head
>continue on my merry way
other than this i havent really had a problem with kevinz as an admin tbh, handles things well enough from my experience, but mental gymnastics and word twisting can go both ways if you want to use it.
and if we're gonna be doing "for reference" posts i might as well give my side of the story
>spawn as captain
>its a good day for bad memes
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>go around doing normal stuff, nothing really happening
>shout GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS on comms
>sec gets triggered, calls for my arrest
>avoid them
>continue wandering around shouting the song of my people
>BWOINK *copypasted message from sloan cox ahelp saying if i dont shut up he'll admin and perma me*
>kek okay bro
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>get bsa'd
>oh well
>heal myself
>cult in science i think, avoid science
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>BWOINK "stop with the fucking gibe de poosie boss"
>am i breaking a rule?
>"the puunches420 (?) rule of no fun"
>okay what
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>BWOINK
>so what rule am i breaking by saying a meme
>*pause for desparate rummaging*
>"rule five on heads of staff"
>yeah cuz heads of staff are always mature and doing memes like "gas the liggers" where people are actually killed is fine when saying "gibe de poosie" isnt
>Players in a head of staff, AI/Silicon role, or a team conversion role require a minimum amount of effort; generally considered to be not logging out at or near roundstart.
Notify admins if you cannot play these roles and must leave near round start and make an attempt to inform other players IC as well for head of staff or AI roles. Abuse of a job position, particularly Rule 1 breaking abuse, is not allowed.
>"you need to be fucking mature as a head"
>costanza.jpg
>despite asspullery i demote myself to assistant and leave my ID by the cap's office console to resolve the issue
>walk out a new man
>oh wait i still have the spare ID in my box
>see hardworking janitor lizard nearby, obati-beal (probably butchered spelling)
>jani, you do a good job. take this.
>jani thanks me and i walk off
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>double bsa gibbed
>notevenmad.gif
>kevinz assblasted in deadchat
>"check your fucking notes deitus"
>see pic related
>didnt even spell my phrase right
>this will make a fine addition to my collection
>kevinz and gun hog (i think?) trying to tell me i was breaking rules for being immature as head
>okay fams despite the fairly obvious cherrypicking here, the problem seems to stem from me saying this /while a head/ right
>so ill just not do it as head
>continue on my merry way
other than this i havent really had a problem with kevinz as an admin tbh, handles things well enough from my experience, but mental gymnastics and word twisting can go both ways if you want to use it.
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Re: Kevinz000
On one hand this is a cancerous meme and I really want higher RP and name standards server-wide.
On the other hand this is a cancerous admin decision and those standards alone aren't going to kill the validhunt, the murderbone and the powergame.
On the other hand this is a cancerous admin decision and those standards alone aren't going to kill the validhunt, the murderbone and the powergame.
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Re: Kevinz000
kept shooting me with BSAs and denying my cool station names
but when i said heal me NOW NOW NOW in ahelp they did so they get a pass for now
although kevin you seem to have a little difficulty in telling when people are just goofing around sometimes
you can't get mad at someone for saying "GIBE DA POOSI" or whatever that's ridiculous
i mean ok the guy's an idiot but that's not a crime my man
and one time when me and colonic were banting in ooc because we're pals and it had been a while you muted OOC and told people we were in a confrontation or something lmao
but when i said heal me NOW NOW NOW in ahelp they did so they get a pass for now
although kevin you seem to have a little difficulty in telling when people are just goofing around sometimes
you can't get mad at someone for saying "GIBE DA POOSI" or whatever that's ridiculous
i mean ok the guy's an idiot but that's not a crime my man
and one time when me and colonic were banting in ooc because we're pals and it had been a while you muted OOC and told people we were in a confrontation or something lmao
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Re: Kevinz000
i can't believe i'm being told by multiple people i take things too seriously when i thought i was meming too harddanno wrote:kept shooting me with BSAs and denying my cool station names
but when i said heal me NOW NOW NOW in ahelp they did so they get a pass for now
although kevin you seem to have a little difficulty in telling when people are just goofing around sometimes
you can't get mad at someone for saying "GIBE DA POOSI" or whatever that's ridiculous
i mean ok the guy's an idiot but that's not a crime my man
and one time when me and colonic were banting in ooc because we're pals and it had been a while you muted OOC and told people we were in a confrontation or something lmao
holy shit.
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Commissions way too much art...
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Re: Kevinz000
Tbh the Deitus thing just reaffirms in my mind that Kevinz is a good admin.
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Re: Kevinz000
Please stop fucking with SQDL every round you are on.
Please stop adding sounds to emotes.
Please stop adding sounds to emotes.
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Re: Kevinz000
makes an issue report/pr about everything that kills him.
only a little
only a little
uhhh hey guys its me Kor Phaerooin
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Re: Kevinz000
Has nothing to do with him being an admin.vcordie wrote:makes an issue report/pr about everything that kills him.
only a little
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Re: Kevinz000
Deitus wrote:im not gonna be changing my sig anytime soon, too hilarious to keep to myself
and if we're gonna be doing "for reference" posts i might as well give my side of the story
>spawn as captain
>its a good day for bad memes
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>go around doing normal stuff, nothing really happening
>shout GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS on comms
>sec gets triggered, calls for my arrest
>avoid them
>continue wandering around shouting the song of my people
>BWOINK *copypasted message from sloan cox ahelp saying if i dont shut up he'll admin and perma me*
>kek okay bro
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>get bsa'd
>oh well
>heal myself
>cult in science i think, avoid science
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>BWOINK "stop with the fucking gibe de poosie boss"
>am i breaking a rule?
>"the puunches420 (?) rule of no fun"
>okay what
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>BWOINK
>so what rule am i breaking by saying a meme
>*pause for desparate rummaging*
>"rule five on heads of staff"
>yeah cuz heads of staff are always mature and doing memes like "gas the liggers" where people are actually killed is fine when saying "gibe de poosie" isnt
>Players in a head of staff, AI/Silicon role, or a team conversion role require a minimum amount of effort; generally considered to be not logging out at or near roundstart.
Notify admins if you cannot play these roles and must leave near round start and make an attempt to inform other players IC as well for head of staff or AI roles. Abuse of a job position, particularly Rule 1 breaking abuse, is not allowed.
>"you need to be fucking mature as a head"
>costanza.jpg
>despite asspullery i demote myself to assistant and leave my ID by the cap's office console to resolve the issue
>walk out a new man
>oh wait i still have the spare ID in my box
>see hardworking janitor lizard nearby, obati-beal (probably butchered spelling)
>jani, you do a good job. take this.
>jani thanks me and i walk off
>GIBE DE POOSIE BOSS
>double bsa gibbed
>notevenmad.gif
>kevinz assblasted in deadchat
>"check your fucking notes deitus"
>see pic related
>didnt even spell my phrase right
>this will make a fine addition to my collection
>kevinz and gun hog (i think?) trying to tell me i was breaking rules for being immature as head
>okay fams despite the fairly obvious cherrypicking here, the problem seems to stem from me saying this /while a head/ right
>so ill just not do it as head
>continue on my merry way
other than this i havent really had a problem with kevinz as an admin tbh, handles things well enough from my experience, but mental gymnastics and word twisting can go both ways if you want to use it.
As soon as I got converted I spent the rest of that round with your spare Id trying to find you so I could toolbox your brains out.
Thanks, Kev.
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Re: Kevinz000
I meankevinz000 wrote: i can't believe i'm being told by multiple people i take things too seriously when i thought i was meming too hard
holy shit.
really though
you lost your cool at a guy for doing nothing but saying a meme phrase
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Re: Kevinz000
it means that youre serious about the wrong things and memeing too hard about the wrong things, not that there's a static "seriousness in general" thingkevinz000 wrote:i can't believe i'm being told by multiple people i take things too seriously when i thought i was meming too hard
holy shit.
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
Spoiler:
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Re: Kevinz000
Yeah good way to put it PKPingu
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Re: Kevinz000
Allows the HOS and Captain to raid CENTCOM and inevitably boost illegal research with thunderdome equipment. s+ tier admin
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Re: Kevinz000
plays shitty oggs and midis constantly, causing people to lag hardcore.
uhhh hey guys its me Kor Phaerooin
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Re: Kevinz000
I think Kevinz000 has a lot of issues he needs to work out before I can take him seriously as an admin.
Kevin's ban on pax left a particularly bad taste in my mouth. The whole thing is an excellent showcase of his various faults and I really wish he'd taken some of the things my alt said about it initially more seriously.
Kevin is unable to process the basic logic that not every situation has a good guy and a bad guy. He could only process the whole conflict in black and white: Pax did wrong, Pax was punished, Pax killed someone for being punished. It took 2 hours of trying desperately to get him to understand that there was an entire round of events that happened between point A and point B, and even when he began to grasp this fact he seemed unable to acknowledge the significance of the bigger picture.
Kevin has difficulty approaching a situation objectively. In the initial conversation with Pax through adminhelps, Kevin accuses Pax of "greytiding" (a term which here means, committing standard IC crimes) 6 times over the course of their conversation whilst largely ignoring Pax's attempts to explain himself. Kevin continues to press an issue that Pax has already made several attempts to address, to the point that Pax completely gives up trying to communicate. Kevin sees this frustration as "refusal to communicate" and attempts to deny the ban sans further discussion as soon as the thread goes up. He presented the situation in a vague manor and backpedaled once called out on thus, citing that the Head of Security involved could not have possibly known the full story and therefore was less wrong than Pax for acting on false information.
Kevin has issues handling his authority. During this ban, the only player that actually got killed (an unrelated bystander hit in a crossfire) was contacted and said he took no issue with being murdered and had found the situation funny. In spite of this, Kevin felt the need to punish Pax for an incident wherein no one ahelped (the HoS later did after killing Pax, which is a silly thing to do in this gamer's opinion) and no one seriously affected by the conflict felt they had been wronged or witnessed a violation of the rules. When pressed to justify the ban, Kevin kept pressing the issue of Pax greytiding, something I assume he takes issue with due to his frequent (mis)use of the word and the fact that he describes himself as a security main. The ultimate action that "greytiding" refers to in this scenario was Pax stepping through an open door into the captain's office, having security called on him before he could leave, and then disarming and firing non-lethal shots at his pursuers. This lead to his removal from the round, already ample punishment for passing through a door. It took two hours of arguing the ban in adminbus to try and suggest that just maybe Pax hadn't been greytiding, nor had he had any severely malicious intent by walking through the door.
In addition, Kor plainly stated he wouldn't lift the ban and that if Kevin truly felt he was wrong, he could do it himself. Kevin took this in the complete opposite manner of what was said, instead electing to lift the ban purely to take flak off himself whilst still leaving an idle threat over Pax's head (thin ice etc.). Despite 2 hours of trying to hammer in that maybe, just maybe, it was fairly natural IC conflict and he didn't need to punish anyone all that we got was reluctant backpedaling and an empty threat to the player in question.
I personally don't believe Kevin has what it takes to be an admin, whatever that may be. He's immature, he's abrasive, his childish little shots at my alt are annoying, he's unable to handle his authority, he's an attention whore, and he has a difficult time approaching situations objectively and considering the wider picture of each conflict. He's already very clearly let the position go to his head and I think it's for both his own interest and the interest of the server as a whole if his position on the admin team is reconsidered.
Kevin's ban on pax left a particularly bad taste in my mouth. The whole thing is an excellent showcase of his various faults and I really wish he'd taken some of the things my alt said about it initially more seriously.
Kevin is unable to process the basic logic that not every situation has a good guy and a bad guy. He could only process the whole conflict in black and white: Pax did wrong, Pax was punished, Pax killed someone for being punished. It took 2 hours of trying desperately to get him to understand that there was an entire round of events that happened between point A and point B, and even when he began to grasp this fact he seemed unable to acknowledge the significance of the bigger picture.
Kevin has difficulty approaching a situation objectively. In the initial conversation with Pax through adminhelps, Kevin accuses Pax of "greytiding" (a term which here means, committing standard IC crimes) 6 times over the course of their conversation whilst largely ignoring Pax's attempts to explain himself. Kevin continues to press an issue that Pax has already made several attempts to address, to the point that Pax completely gives up trying to communicate. Kevin sees this frustration as "refusal to communicate" and attempts to deny the ban sans further discussion as soon as the thread goes up. He presented the situation in a vague manor and backpedaled once called out on thus, citing that the Head of Security involved could not have possibly known the full story and therefore was less wrong than Pax for acting on false information.
Kevin has issues handling his authority. During this ban, the only player that actually got killed (an unrelated bystander hit in a crossfire) was contacted and said he took no issue with being murdered and had found the situation funny. In spite of this, Kevin felt the need to punish Pax for an incident wherein no one ahelped (the HoS later did after killing Pax, which is a silly thing to do in this gamer's opinion) and no one seriously affected by the conflict felt they had been wronged or witnessed a violation of the rules. When pressed to justify the ban, Kevin kept pressing the issue of Pax greytiding, something I assume he takes issue with due to his frequent (mis)use of the word and the fact that he describes himself as a security main. The ultimate action that "greytiding" refers to in this scenario was Pax stepping through an open door into the captain's office, having security called on him before he could leave, and then disarming and firing non-lethal shots at his pursuers. This lead to his removal from the round, already ample punishment for passing through a door. It took two hours of arguing the ban in adminbus to try and suggest that just maybe Pax hadn't been greytiding, nor had he had any severely malicious intent by walking through the door.
In addition, Kor plainly stated he wouldn't lift the ban and that if Kevin truly felt he was wrong, he could do it himself. Kevin took this in the complete opposite manner of what was said, instead electing to lift the ban purely to take flak off himself whilst still leaving an idle threat over Pax's head (thin ice etc.). Despite 2 hours of trying to hammer in that maybe, just maybe, it was fairly natural IC conflict and he didn't need to punish anyone all that we got was reluctant backpedaling and an empty threat to the player in question.
I personally don't believe Kevin has what it takes to be an admin, whatever that may be. He's immature, he's abrasive, his childish little shots at my alt are annoying, he's unable to handle his authority, he's an attention whore, and he has a difficult time approaching situations objectively and considering the wider picture of each conflict. He's already very clearly let the position go to his head and I think it's for both his own interest and the interest of the server as a whole if his position on the admin team is reconsidered.
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- Arianya
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Re: Kevinz000
Personally, I've found Kevinz to be pretty level headed and good. Hes also one of those admins who still actually plays the game. The fact that hes also a coder who plays the game basically makes him the offspring of a white whale and a unicorn.
He seems to have some disagreements/misunderstandings with the norm in terms of enforcement of certain rules, but I'm sure with time he'll become a pretty good admin!
He seems to have some disagreements/misunderstandings with the norm in terms of enforcement of certain rules, but I'm sure with time he'll become a pretty good admin!
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- peoplearestrange
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Re: Kevinz000
Im not sure if there was valid feedback at the start of this (from the "essay post" it might seem that way). However its basically now devolved into what certainly looks like bullying. Like actually just attacking Kev because they slighted you in some way or you just plain don't like them. I suggest you stop whining like ass holes and actually try to be constructive. I'll be soft deleting the needless back and forths, but leaving the original post as it seems to be the only constructive thing in this shit chain.
Don't make PAS an angry Mom.
Don't make PAS an angry Mom.
Whatever
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- peoplearestrange
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- Location: UK
Re: Kevinz000
Now some actual personal feedback. I feel Kevinz is a distant admin. They often seem AFK or just simply don't reply to ahelps for whatever reason. From what little interaction I've had with him its always seemed a little vague. However they do seem to know the game and its tools inside out, so no issues there.
I'm just wondering why they want to admin or what they gain for the experience?
I'm just wondering why they want to admin or what they gain for the experience?
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- oranges
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Re: Kevinz000
but moooooooooooooooom
- Haevacht
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Re: Kevinz000
In one round, played 3 nice sized midis while i was either in combat, running from combat or 5 tiles from combat.
Ree.
Ree.
1% of a coder, 2% of a spriter, 97% >:3c
Random name on Bagel, usually assistant.
Random name on Bagel, usually assistant.
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Re: Kevinz000
He played the shitty wood man midi at my request at least, also one time i told him to go fuck himself in an ahelp and i didnt get banned so that was neat
- Armhulen
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Re: Kevinz000
he cuts up his midis and uploads them all at the same time causing massive lagsprites
p-please stop
p-please stop
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- PKPenguin321
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Re: Kevinz000
Kevins horrid abuse of midis actually prompted me to write a full guide on how to properly trim sounds to play them on the server, evidently he has still somehow missed the message
Still goes afk 99/100 times that I see him on server, always stealthmins when he does it, doesn't pop in when a stray ahelp appears, so the only discernable reason for him to do this is farming play time on the stat tracker. Obnoxious behavior, evidently he didn't get the message last time I mentioned this here. I've begun just kicking him if we already have a reasonable amount of admins anyways.
From this I've gathered that he doesn't seem to learn from past negative feedback. Definitely a red flag.
Still goes afk 99/100 times that I see him on server, always stealthmins when he does it, doesn't pop in when a stray ahelp appears, so the only discernable reason for him to do this is farming play time on the stat tracker. Obnoxious behavior, evidently he didn't get the message last time I mentioned this here. I've begun just kicking him if we already have a reasonable amount of admins anyways.
From this I've gathered that he doesn't seem to learn from past negative feedback. Definitely a red flag.
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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- danno
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Re: Kevinz000
The stealthminning is what really confuses me. Everyone knows it's him.
To quote a really fucking funny player;
"I love getting an admin PM from "administrator" because I know I just did something to piss in kevin's mouth."
To quote a really fucking funny player;
"I love getting an admin PM from "administrator" because I know I just did something to piss in kevin's mouth."
- captain sawrge
- Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:13 pm
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Re: Kevinz000
Well my last post was really overly inflammatory and was reposted here by a shitstirrer but I may as well reiterate it:
things to consider as an admin, in general:
Not every issue is black and white. It's possible there are no bad guys. There can also be two (mostly) equally bad guys. OOC intervention is often not required because things usually sort themselves out IC. If someone ahelps something and it seems to be fairly organic conflict*, feel free to mark it an IC issue.
*a term which here means one of them has already brutally murdered the other and the victor still feels the need to try and rub salt in the wound and get the corpse banned
Act professional, but understand you are playing a game and people want to have fun and while some may have more chaotic fun than others everyone is ultimately here to play and enjoy themselves. People (generally) aren't instigating things purely out of malice. They are trying to enjoy the game and while they may be doing so in a way other players disagree with, they usually don't mean any harm initially. Don't assume the worst in people. Don't take an overly hostile or accusatory tone. Approach situations as objectively as you can and make your best attempt to hear either side of the story. Ideally, try and mediate between the two players or at least defuse the situation, rather than exacerbate it with OOC intervention.
Acknowledge when you make mistakes. You are learning. Not every ban will be well thought out, or smart, or just. Don't let that get to you. Any position of authority, no matter how fake internet authority it is, comes with the possibility of making grand fuckups that can have a serious impact on people. Be willing to accept it when you screw up.
I apologize for the previous post and its overly hostile tone, as well as the shenanigans that brought it to light. I think this advice applies to every current and future admin, and I would ask that you try to take it into consideration in the future.
things to consider as an admin, in general:
Not every issue is black and white. It's possible there are no bad guys. There can also be two (mostly) equally bad guys. OOC intervention is often not required because things usually sort themselves out IC. If someone ahelps something and it seems to be fairly organic conflict*, feel free to mark it an IC issue.
*a term which here means one of them has already brutally murdered the other and the victor still feels the need to try and rub salt in the wound and get the corpse banned
Act professional, but understand you are playing a game and people want to have fun and while some may have more chaotic fun than others everyone is ultimately here to play and enjoy themselves. People (generally) aren't instigating things purely out of malice. They are trying to enjoy the game and while they may be doing so in a way other players disagree with, they usually don't mean any harm initially. Don't assume the worst in people. Don't take an overly hostile or accusatory tone. Approach situations as objectively as you can and make your best attempt to hear either side of the story. Ideally, try and mediate between the two players or at least defuse the situation, rather than exacerbate it with OOC intervention.
Acknowledge when you make mistakes. You are learning. Not every ban will be well thought out, or smart, or just. Don't let that get to you. Any position of authority, no matter how fake internet authority it is, comes with the possibility of making grand fuckups that can have a serious impact on people. Be willing to accept it when you screw up.
I apologize for the previous post and its overly hostile tone, as well as the shenanigans that brought it to light. I think this advice applies to every current and future admin, and I would ask that you try to take it into consideration in the future.
- Raphaella
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Re: Kevinz000
I've got to echo what Sawrge is saying because he put it into words way better than my dumb ass ever could. Try to take his words to heart instead of just shrugging them off this time. You'll be a great admin if you actually learn from your mistakes and the feedback present in this thread.
Not sure who said it, but "takes the wrong things way too seriously" is, at times, accurate.
Not sure who said it, but "takes the wrong things way too seriously" is, at times, accurate.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
- Grazyn
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Re: Kevinz000
Protip: always check adminwho before you start mining, if Kevinz is on, don't engage in combat with mobs. Ogg lagspikes WILL kill you and they aren't affected by silence midis, they need stop sounds and by then you already spiked. That's what I gathered from ghostchat feedback
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- Yoshmaster
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Re: Kevinz000
Stop testing stuff in game it's horrible
We keep getting ~50% time dilation and rounds are unplayable
We keep getting ~50% time dilation and rounds are unplayable
- oranges
- Code Maintainer
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Re: Kevinz000
Not really Kevinz000 fault and no we won't
- Luke Cox
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Re: Kevinz000
I think one of the reasons I'm so fond of him as an admin is that he feels like one of us, and not a part of a clique of elites.
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