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Re: /vg/station lighting
Oh god please no
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Makes my computer run terrible
Excessive client rendering demands aren't kosher on a game that draws in people with toaster machines
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Vg lighting is fucking ugly to me
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Maint is even more unbearably dark then it was before, even with proper lighting. I'm not really a fan of this
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Re: /vg/station lighting
The cool part here is we could do a constant addition to all tiles so every tile you can see is a minimal darkness.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I like it. Makes maint even more dangerous.Yakumo_Chen wrote:Maint is even more unbearably dark then it was before, even with proper lighting. I'm not really a fan of this
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Yakumo_Chen wrote:Maint is even more unbearably dark then it was before, even with proper lighting. I'm not really a fan of this
T-thats...
Thats how maint is meant to be?
Its meant to be a dark, dingy tunnel intended for drones and engineers, not an access corridor.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I like it. Pretty neat.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
/vg/ lighting breaks species that check for darkness. Podpeople can't survive anywhere and shadowpeople can run around with impunity.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Maint is a repairs access tunnel system. Not an assistant access hallway.Yakumo_Chen wrote:Maint is even more unbearably dark then it was before, even with proper lighting. I'm not really a fan of this
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I honestly don't feel like it's an improvement over our current system which looks better to me, but I guess I'll get used to it.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
the "no human being has any form of night vision or any form of light control at all" argument
there needs to be emergency lights in maint that are weak then, i can still see in maint with our current lighting system, thats besides the fact that this hurts my eyes because it makes me think theres splotches on the screen and that the transititions aren't actually there.
so like. maybe merge the two systems where areas in low light get better gradients and transititions and areas in high light are all the same color?
there needs to be emergency lights in maint that are weak then, i can still see in maint with our current lighting system, thats besides the fact that this hurts my eyes because it makes me think theres splotches on the screen and that the transititions aren't actually there.
so like. maybe merge the two systems where areas in low light get better gradients and transititions and areas in high light are all the same color?
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Re: /vg/station lighting
There's a point between 'it's supposed to be dangerous' and 'with the PDA flashlight I still have to turn the gamma all the way up to find my character sprite' where trying to navigate maint is a pain in the ass, regardless of why I'm in there or what the intention is.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Maint is supposed to be dark and spooky, nobody has any fear though because our lighting system keeps things generally pretty bright.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
"Dark and spooky" shouldn't be obstructionist to gameplay, though. It's fine if my PDA light only lets me see in a 2 tile radius, but if I can't actually see sprites even with lighting, there's a problem.
At least the built in light on my cell phone helps me actually see in the dark and identify stuff IRL. There's no point to having it if it's so dim it might as well not even be on.
That and the fact even the main hallways, which sensibly should be brightly lit, are dark with this lighting.
At least the built in light on my cell phone helps me actually see in the dark and identify stuff IRL. There's no point to having it if it's so dim it might as well not even be on.
That and the fact even the main hallways, which sensibly should be brightly lit, are dark with this lighting.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
VG lights in general are pretty dim
At least felt like they were while.i played there
At least felt like they were while.i played there
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Re: /vg/station lighting
It needs to be cut way up then. I hate Goon's lighting, it's dark as hell.Yakumo_Chen wrote:"Dark and spooky" shouldn't be obstructionist to gameplay, though. It's fine if my PDA light only lets me see in a 2 tile radius, but if I can't actually see sprites even with lighting, there's a problem.
At least the built in light on my cell phone helps me actually see in the dark and identify stuff IRL. There's no point to having it if it's so dim it might as well not even be on.
That and the fact even the main hallways, which sensibly should be brightly lit, are dark with this lighting.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Is there a way to fix the god damn black rectangles? It looks so bad with the awesome opacity and then just black rectangles due to line of sight hit
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I thought we killed the "paranoia" meme in 2016?
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Time dilation is always above 30% now.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
PDA lights need to be cut way the fuck up, I literally can't see anything even with them cut on.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I've been waiting for the PDA light nerf for so long, so lets not even go there. Light wasn't even a threat or needed because everyone had a PDA and now that darkness is actually a thing everyone whines.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Yeah because I literally can't see. If the lights go out for any reason and you're not within reaching range of a light you're completely screwed indefinitely until someone fixes the lights or finds you bumbling in the dark.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
>he can't navigate the station by memory
get good you little shit, you've been here since like 2011 you should be good at this now
get good you little shit, you've been here since like 2011 you should be good at this now
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I can but what about newbie mc chucklefuck who just joined the server?
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I too remember when SS13 was hard.ShadowDimentio wrote:I can but what about newbie mc chucklefuck who just joined the server?
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Yeah clearly it's the newbie's fault for his light being shit and not being able to see in complete darkness.
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Who said anything about fault? Your cell phone shouldn't be enough to light up medbay.ShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah clearly it's the newbie's fault for his light being shit and not being able to see in complete darkness.
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are you saying he should be able to see in complete darknessShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah clearly it's the newbie's fault for his light being shit and not being able to see in complete darkness.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Yes. It shouldn't be a game over just because you don't know that your PDA is also a flashlight.PKPenguin321 wrote:are you saying he should be able to see in complete darknessShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah clearly it's the newbie's fault for his light being shit and not being able to see in complete darkness.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
You can see enough. It's fine, get good, etc.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
make the PDA light an action button or HUD element.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
also what happened to the flare everyone spawned with in their backpack?
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I'm pretty sure that /vg/ lights are still broken with plant people in that they don't heal in light. This is a bit better than the round where everything was considered complete darkness and I had to constantly eat food and medicine to not wither away in bright light, but the issues might extend to statues/shadowlings/any other future light-based things.
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I think the lighting cuts of way too early in the walls. You see like 10% of the wall sprite in some places (seems widely inconsistent what walls).
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ITT: People don't realize they can just grab a flashlight; instead they expect PDA light to solve all their problems.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
lava looks beautiful with vg lighting
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Re: /vg/station lighting
You can just not get poisoned.Sligneris wrote:ITT: People don't realize they can just grab a flashlight; instead they expect PDA light to solve all their problems.
You can just dodge the bullets.
You can just not die.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I've found the PDA flashlight to be fine.
Its meant to help you navigate dark areas so you don't get stuck on a wall, its really shouldn't be a inbuilt flashlight with a one or two tile less light range.
Flares and Flashlights serve that purpose well, and they can be placed in your pockets.
Its meant to help you navigate dark areas so you don't get stuck on a wall, its really shouldn't be a inbuilt flashlight with a one or two tile less light range.
Flares and Flashlights serve that purpose well, and they can be placed in your pockets.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
Good lights are everywhere. Flashlights, lamps (Free ones in arrivals and the library), helmets with lights, etc.
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Yes, those things are totally the same as simply going to the public access tool storage.Iatots wrote:You can just not get poisoned.Sligneris wrote:ITT: People don't realize they can just grab a flashlight; instead they expect PDA light to solve all their problems.
You can just dodge the bullets.
You can just not die.
Also, you're fucking dumb.
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Let me put it in a language you understand: On box, medbay and the general recreational areas have no readily accessible lights outside maintenance. Sci and sec have a whopping 1 O2 closet each.Sligneris wrote:Yes, those things are totally the same as simply going to the public access tool storage.Iatots wrote:You can just not get poisoned.Sligneris wrote:ITT: People don't realize they can just grab a flashlight; instead they expect PDA light to solve all their problems.
You can just dodge the bullets.
You can just not die.
Also, you're fucking dumb.
On meta, departments have around 1 roll at a lightsource, with some like sec having a desk lamp.
The dumb guy here is you, because you don't seem able to grasp that PDAs suddenly not providing a decent light source seriously nerfs the general crew as some people clearly are having difficulty orientating themselves on little to no light.
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Re: /vg/station lighting
I did a quick check in game, here's a comparison between the three main light sources. PDA, Flashlight and Flare.
PDA Light (same light level irrespective if you hold it in your hand or its on your ID slot)
Flashlight (Note: Sec Light is slightly better)
Flare
Amusingly a penlight offers more light than the PDA light.
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I think two changes are warrented.
Firstly, the PDA light should offer the samelight levels that the penlight offers.
Secondly, more flashlight spawns should be made available within departments.
PDA Light (same light level irrespective if you hold it in your hand or its on your ID slot)
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I think two changes are warrented.
Firstly, the PDA light should offer the samelight levels that the penlight offers.
Secondly, more flashlight spawns should be made available within departments.
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