Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
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Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
According to Cheridan it is. Of note: It was a war ops round. He was an op. And he says it's a "bug" because there's explicit checks for it. Sure, players read the code to see if there are checks for something so they know not to do it.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Considering dismemberment AND a surgery table is a part of the syndicate ship, I don't really see the dealio here.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
exactly. my theory is that he's salty about losing and is now making up rules which is not appropriate conduct for an admin
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
It used to be a not ok thing to do [well it wouldn't even allow you to do so], I don't want you to think he's pulling it out of his rear.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
hes also saying it's a bug: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/13533
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
no its a round that just happened. i had it implanted in me
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
In regards to the thread.
Wasn't it a long standing meme/tradition to implant the clown with the disk and making them run like an oiled pig?
Wasn't it a long standing meme/tradition to implant the clown with the disk and making them run like an oiled pig?
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
lmao.
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I present an argument and then he's like "are you guys still going on about this?" like nigga you just started it back up
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I present an argument and then he's like "are you guys still going on about this?" like nigga you just started it back up
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
It's a bit excessive in my opinion. Booby trapping the disk is fine, but implantation is a pain in the ass to deal with and not all that clever
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
>Hit person in chest many times with the saw in your shuttle
>Hit person with esword or edagger
>Operate them in your shuttle
How is it hard?
>Hit person with esword or edagger
>Operate them in your shuttle
How is it hard?
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
with eswords being able to chop out organs + the disk it isn't even hard for the ops to get it out, the rule is outdated if its even a rule, which im pretty sure it isn't
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Hadn't considered the esword bit. I take back what I said, git gud
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
>get Powar Gammer to whip up a few max caps
>mouse trap those bitches
>put disk and bomb in bag
>do what ever else to reinforse (ai sat, locker, r-walls, ect)
>if ops are not coordinated they fucking die from the crew and of they are they fie any ways from the bomb
>ggnore
>mouse trap those bitches
>put disk and bomb in bag
>do what ever else to reinforse (ai sat, locker, r-walls, ect)
>if ops are not coordinated they fucking die from the crew and of they are they fie any ways from the bomb
>ggnore
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
If you take the time to do all that, the crew deserves to win.
And uncoordinated ops lose most of the time anyway
And uncoordinated ops lose most of the time anyway
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
It *is* a bug I'm pretty sure, but its a solution to an outdated problem now that you can hack things out of people's chest cavities instead of it being stuck there 5ever
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
1. Take saw on the nuke op ship
2. saw the chest repeatedly
3. take disk that pours out of chest
done!
2. saw the chest repeatedly
3. take disk that pours out of chest
done!
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Rudely fixed it for you.Aloraydrel wrote:1. Take Come the fuck on literally anything that's sharp and has more force than a shard come on guys on the nuke op ship
2. saw the chest repeatedly
3. take disk that pours out of chest
done!
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Put the disk into a loaf of bread and then implant it. Syndies are allergic to gluten.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
no it's not powergaming
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Okay, thanks, that's all I needed to know.imblyings wrote:no it's not powergaming
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Welcome newfriend, enjoy your stay.BeeSting12 wrote:exactly. my theory is that he's salty about losing and is now making up rules which is not appropriate conduct for an admin
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
If cheridan was involved as both an admin and player in an adminhelp the appropriate actions will be taken. We don't let admins handle their own ahelps at all.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
he wasnt handling his own adminhelp, just mentioned in OOC that this was a bug + against the rules which is why I made this thread to clarify.imblyings wrote:If cheridan was involved as both an admin and player in an adminhelp the appropriate actions will be taken. We don't let admins handle their own ahelps at all.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
By that I mean we don't let admins handle an issue that they were also involved in as a player. I took your posts to mean cheridan was a nuke op and later messaged you about nuke disk implanting.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Pretty sure that this is a bug though, this is explicitly disallowed by code iirc but is still functional for some reason
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
It was disallowed.
The disallowing code was broken.
Kor used "but it never worked" as his reason to remove the disallowing code.
Thus it's """allowed"""
The disallowing code was broken.
Kor used "but it never worked" as his reason to remove the disallowing code.
Thus it's """allowed"""
PKPenguin321 wrote:Pretty sure that this is a bug though, this is explicitly disallowed by code iirc but is still functional for some reason
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
>2015Remie Richards wrote:It was disallowed.
The disallowing code was broken.
Kor used "but it never worked" as his reason to remove the disallowing code.
Thus it's """allowed"""
PKPenguin321 wrote:Pretty sure that this is a bug though, this is explicitly disallowed by code iirc but is still functional for some reason
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
if cheridan says it's a bug it's a bug
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if I say jump you say how high.oranges wrote:if cheridan says it's a bug it's a bug
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
>Putting the disk inside of the clown is frowned upon
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Is the thing that's bugged even needed any more though, given that dismemberment makes it moot?oranges wrote:if cheridan says it's a bug it's a bug
1. implanting the disk makes it hard to retrieve
2. code is added to make it impossible to implant the disk, in order to solve 1.
3. dismemberment makes implanted disks easy to retrieve
4. for some reason 2 breaks
5. Because of 4, the fix for 1, 2, is bugged even though 3 makes 1 no longer an issue.
There was a similar thing in polaris code. Hyperzine was hilariously OP and in response a PR was put in to make it toxic. People started just cutting it with antitoxin and it was still OP, so a later PR just made the movement boost less ridiculous, and now arguably there's no need for it to be toxic any more. And so the eternal cycle of nerf and buff continues.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
read the thread
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=237
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
hey there you go i forgot about this prIatots wrote:read the thread https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=237Clearly the code is not in anymore. Maybe Cheridan thought it was. Cheridan was mistaken in that case. Cheridan seems to have moved on. Maybe you should do like Cheridan? If you don't like Cheridan, and want to tell Cheridan about it, ---->
ok after a light rereading im swayed again this is fine
although i guess whether or not it's readded is up to cheridan kinda
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but I showed you above that you held that opinion on the PR.PKPenguin321 wrote:hey there you go i forgot about this prIatots wrote:read the thread https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=237Clearly the code is not in anymore. Maybe Cheridan thought it was. Cheridan was mistaken in that case. Cheridan seems to have moved on. Maybe you should do like Cheridan? If you don't like Cheridan, and want to tell Cheridan about it, ---->
ok after a light rereading im swayed again this is fine
although i guess whether or not it's readded is up to cheridan kinda
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
ack you shoulda linked the full pr instead of just a comment
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
5th post pkp.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
ack i skimmed it
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
It's funny how Cheridan's basically the only one who has yet to say anything in this thread.
Appeal to authority in cases where it's objectively wrong? Whoa.oranges wrote:if cheridan says it's a bug it's a bug
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
If the syndies have a surgery table then how could it possibly be powergaming? Also: people rarely have enough time to get it implanted before the ops show up. AND iirc, somewhere on the wiki it even mentions the disk implantation strat.
If you ask me, real powergaming is doing the cheesewheel thing, putting it inside a ton of boxes, or under a huge stack of shit to right-click.
If you ask me, real powergaming is doing the cheesewheel thing, putting it inside a ton of boxes, or under a huge stack of shit to right-click.
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It's not an appeal to authority, I am the authority and I'm saying it's a bugSligneris wrote:It's funny how Cheridan's basically the only one who has yet to say anything in this thread.
Appeal to authority in cases where it's objectively wrong? Whoa.oranges wrote:if cheridan says it's a bug it's a bug
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
> Nuke disk block was broken at first.
> It was deliberately removed, as the current balance made it unnecessary in the first place.
> But I don't like the fact that it was.
> Therefore it's still a bug.
> It was deliberately removed, as the current balance made it unnecessary in the first place.
> But I don't like the fact that it was.
> Therefore it's still a bug.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
Ic issue tbh
with dismemebement its not even a challenge and if your too dumb to bang the rocks together then you deserve it tbh.
If you want a repercussion there are all sorts of nasty problems alien objects cause in the human body. Just run a google search and implement a horrible medical condition.
Reminder that the "separation of code and server is absolute" meme runs both ways.
with dismemebement its not even a challenge and if your too dumb to bang the rocks together then you deserve it tbh.
If you want a repercussion there are all sorts of nasty problems alien objects cause in the human body. Just run a google search and implement a horrible medical condition.
Reminder that the "separation of code and server is absolute" meme runs both ways.
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Re: Disk Implantation is Powergaming?
If your name is not cheridan stop posting.
Wish the headmemes were as quick locking "he said she said" threads like these as they are locking the regular "server culture is in the shitter do something about it" threads.
Wish the headmemes were as quick locking "he said she said" threads like these as they are locking the regular "server culture is in the shitter do something about it" threads.
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