Some weird obscure website called Google wrote:Freedom is a state of being capable of making decisions without external control.
Liberty, on the other hand, is freedom which has been granted to a people by an external control.
"Tell me" - elaborate language discussion
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dezzmont wrote:I am one of sawrge's alt accounts
dezzmont wrote:sawrge has it right.
Connor wrote:miggles is correct though
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Yes that's called semantics.
It's part of all modern linguistic studies worldwide.
Even polish.
It's part of all modern linguistic studies worldwide.
Even polish.
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From what I've been told, mostly Asian languages are the hardest languages for English speakers to learn. I think Japanese is the hardest language to learn of the bunch.
English is a great language for a bunch of reasons, such as having the greatest versatility of any other language due to English having the largest vocabulary of any other language, the fact that English is usually seen as the dominate 'internet' language and a whole bunch of other historical and practical reasons.
English may be simple, but that makes it very effective.
English is a great language for a bunch of reasons, such as having the greatest versatility of any other language due to English having the largest vocabulary of any other language, the fact that English is usually seen as the dominate 'internet' language and a whole bunch of other historical and practical reasons.
English may be simple, but that makes it very effective.
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How is that a pointless separation?
The concept of liberty has sources in the vast majority of human development in which freedom was hampered but not in a literal way. Being physically chained is a limiting of my literal freedom, yet social norms, laws or even simply power of any kind (particularly authoritative) do not limit my freedom, but do limit my liberty. The entire question of how much liberty ought to be afforded to individuals has been the basis of countless wars, revolutions and political and philosophical treatises.
English just has two separate words for it, while other languages do as well some require a bit more context for the two separate concepts to be conveyed.
The concept of liberty has sources in the vast majority of human development in which freedom was hampered but not in a literal way. Being physically chained is a limiting of my literal freedom, yet social norms, laws or even simply power of any kind (particularly authoritative) do not limit my freedom, but do limit my liberty. The entire question of how much liberty ought to be afforded to individuals has been the basis of countless wars, revolutions and political and philosophical treatises.
English just has two separate words for it, while other languages do as well some require a bit more context for the two separate concepts to be conveyed.
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English is hardest to learn with all teh rules and stuff. Japanese is hard aswell with all the characters, but my mom says English is alot harder to her.
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>Violaceus wrote:Don't tell me about polish, language too hard for any english speakers. We have like 8/24 words for every single english word (it depends if its related with gender or not), our language is far more subtle and you know what?
English also has 8 to 24 words for each word as well.
A thesaurus isn't just used in your country y'know.
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bockman22 wrote:Japanese is hard aswell with all the characters
Japanese really isn't that hard.Steelpoint wrote:I think Japanese is the hardest language to learn of the bunch
The only hard part is Kanji, cos they're like 2000+ in active usage.
Kana is easy, there's only 52 characters, each character is 2 latin/english letters.
Then you just have to remember what letters turn into different letters,
Like T becomes D and H becomes B etc.
and then all the rules of where you place things.
oh and extended vowels and consonants.
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English is really fucking hard because for every grammatical rule, there's two dozen exceptions and special cases.
MimicFaux wrote:I remember my first time, full of wonderment and excitement playing this game I had heard so many stories about.
on the arrival shuttle, I saw the iconic toolbox on the ground. I clubbed myself in the head with it trying to figure out the controls.
Setting the tool box, now bloodied, back on the table; I went to heal myself with a medkit. I clubbed myself in the head with that too.
I've come a long ways from asking how to switch hands.
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Also dialectal differences.ColonicAcid wrote:>Violaceus wrote:Don't tell me about polish, language too hard for any english speakers. We have like 8/24 words for every single english word (it depends if its related with gender or not), our language is far more subtle and you know what?
English also has 8 to 24 words for each word as well.
A thesaurus isn't just used in your country y'know.
There are a dozen different names for this:
In Yorkshire alone
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A dozen different names for a loaf of bread.
A
LOAF
OF BREAD
A
LOAF
OF BREAD
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>thread starts with OP asking for the difference between two concepts
>disregards answer, assumes there's no difference and attributes it to language
>philosophy graduate (me) comes in and further explains it
>LOL LANGUAGE IS SO WEIRD AND HARD GUYS
This isn't a fucking language distinction. It's two different concepts.
UGH YOU NON PHILOSOPHERS ALWAYS GET BOGGED DOWN WITH STUPID IDEAS.
>disregards answer, assumes there's no difference and attributes it to language
>philosophy graduate (me) comes in and further explains it
>LOL LANGUAGE IS SO WEIRD AND HARD GUYS
This isn't a fucking language distinction. It's two different concepts.
UGH YOU NON PHILOSOPHERS ALWAYS GET BOGGED DOWN WITH STUPID IDEAS.
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Levo ergo sum.
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hey buddy, friend, can i ask you a question?
whats it like to be the niggers of europe polack.
whats it like to be the niggers of europe polack.
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i would say the greek are the real niggers of europe but whatever
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are you serious
slavs are the niggers of europe
greece is like the south of europe
slavs are the niggers of europe
greece is like the south of europe
dezzmont wrote:I am one of sawrge's alt accounts
dezzmont wrote:sawrge has it right.
Connor wrote:miggles is correct though
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You know Quartz, philosophy is a fake qualification, like basket weaving
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In Finnish language that number is 2253. Seriously you can bend a word in 2253 different ways and they're all valid, although most very rare, but recognizable to all Finnish speakers. For example "kauppasikin" (kauppa-a-si-kin ILL SG SG2 KIN) would be "your shop also".Violaceus wrote:I am not talking about synonims, but... instances.
For example, in english there is word Pole, describing member of my nation (not fucking pollack)
One word.
In polish it is:
polak
polaka
polakowi
polaka
polakiem
polaku
And female:
polka
polki
polce
polkę
polką
polko
12 words.
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What does that make linguistics?Malkevin wrote:You know Quartz, philosophy is a fake qualification, like basket weaving
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Sure, but you can do that in English, change a words inflection, or the subtext due to previous or preceding words and a word such as "Fuck" can have so many different meanings. It's just we don't change a word ending to show this in written text (hence why sarcasm is incredibly hard to notice/say in text form).kosmos wrote:In Finnish language that number is 2253. Seriously you can bend a word in 2253 different ways and they're all valid, although most very rare, but recognizable to all Finnish speakers. For example "kauppasikin" (kauppa-a-si-kin ILL SG SG2 KIN) would be "your shop also".Violaceus wrote:I am not talking about synonims, but... instances.
For example, in english there is word Pole, describing member of my nation (not fucking pollack)
One word.
In polish it is:
polak
polaka
polakowi
polaka
polakiem
polaku
And female:
polka
polki
polce
polkę
polką
polko
12 words.
Whatever
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Linguistics is the study of nuances and history of written and spoken languages, a bit of a mixture history, archaeology, and psychology.QuartzCrystal wrote:What does that make linguistics?Malkevin wrote:You know Quartz, philosophy is a fake qualification, like basket weaving
Philosophy is for tweed jacket wearing oddballs that aren't smart enough for a real science
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lolokMalkevin wrote:Linguistics is the study of nuances and history of written and spoken languages, a bit of a mixture history, archaeology, and psychology.QuartzCrystal wrote:What does that make linguistics?Malkevin wrote:You know Quartz, philosophy is a fake qualification, like basket weaving
Philosophy is for tweed jacket wearing oddballs that aren't smart enough for a real science
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I wish I could speak using :b in real life.
It would make everything so much easier.
It would make everything so much easier.
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>says english has pointless wordsViolaceus wrote:Don't tell me about polish, language too hard for any english speakers. We have like 8/24 words for every single english word (it depends if its related with gender or not), our language is far more subtle and you know what?
We are thinking in that language, you simple minded people who think in engrish.
>that whole post
Confront them with annihilation, and they will then survive; plunge them into a deadly situation, and they will then live. When people fall into danger, they are then able to strive for victory.
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