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BeeSting12 wrote:Basically their issue is that by saying ITS REVS it sounds like you're saying that's what the gamemode is rather than a proper IC way of saying it such as "There is a revolution" or whatever. It's a very nitpicky thing and I wouldn't be sorry to see this part of the rule go.
Ikarrus wrote:This was always a rule since I started playing back in 2011. It's only been in question now after any semblance of RP standards have been eroded away
Screemonster wrote:how the fuck are you supposed to RP with a grille
OhChildflayer wrote:Did I miss something? Level seven biohazar-"EVERYONE FIND THE BLOB". People try, succeed, and openly talk on the radio about meta-ing the round type constantly. Am I misunderstanding the rule about OOC in IC or is it just being allowed all the time?
Screemonster wrote:how the fuck are you supposed to RP with a grille
TheWulfe wrote:Well, our server established policy is that everyone knows about the "game modes" or 'events that can happen' and have knowledge of what antagonists do, as we even have it in our CentComm summary:
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:You ICly know Level 5 is a blob so saying that is totally in character.
You ICly know how revs function so if you see someone flashing you can say "there's revs!" or "Jack is a headrev!".
TheWulfe wrote:And even so, if you're banning for a missing article "A" or plurals "S" in a game full of slang you're probably a massive prick and are trying to get a metagrudge ban in. We've had admins stalking players to get banbaiting in before, how it just so happens to be JMad and how an admin in this case JUMPS on a grammar error for a ban just reeks of it.
I don't want my typing being hung over my head and being Bwoinked in a game that counts on milliseconds because if I were, say, a Captain, and I didn't add an "S" to "It's Nuke Ops!" because my nerves are being shot and the difference between the milliseconds you type out is the difference between warning the crew and eating bullets and the station nuked. Or a head during revolution, where those milliseconds meant I get impaled by a thrown spear and finished off limping by rabid revolutionaries.
No more banning for this, and I don't think it even merits a warning, no one deserves to have grammar hanged over their head in a game about Spessmen.
TheWulfe wrote:No more banning for this, and I don't think it even merits a warning, no one deserves to have grammar hanged over their head in a game about Spessmen.
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:Your character is NOT suppose to know that they are a game character and the shift/round is dictated by an overarching gamemode that spawns one of X number antags, hence why "ITS REVS" is bad.
PKPenguin321 wrote:Is it really so hard to say "There's a revolution" instead of "It's revs", or "shift" instead of "round"
RandomMarine wrote:Behold, the play to win mentality that's been plaguing the servers for the past years. Where winning is everything and acting as a character in an unfolding story is unimportant.
This is what tgstation needs to push against, not support.
Grazyn wrote:"IT'S REVS" is an established OOC meme that satirizes the low/nonexistent RP we have on the servers, nobody uses it unironically anymore.
tusterman11 wrote:Can you stop lying? I just asked you and you are was a piece of shiit on me!!!
Kor wrote:I wish Wyzack was still an admin.
bandit wrote:Grazyn wrote:"IT'S REVS" is an established OOC meme that satirizes the low/nonexistent RP we have on the servers, nobody uses it unironically anymore.
you would think so and yet I have to bwoink like 1-3 people per round for saying it
feem wrote:-snip-
Wyzack wrote:I am stunned that so many people just dont fucking get it. Its not that hard to understand
Screemonster wrote:how the fuck are you supposed to RP with a grille
TheWulfe wrote:feem wrote:-snip-
Maybe my point should have been more clear.
My point wasn't whether something who does make a grammar misstep actually does cross into referring to a round type. But that the distinction between it and proper use is easy enough to mess up that's it's so minor and hinging on articles and letters, when it does happen it's so pointless to be actionable that you're steeping into the in-game Grammar Nazi ghost territory, but instead of eye-rolling a guy on a forum it's warnable each time some poor sap has a typo.
Just to put into the example with the "it's revs is OOC in IC" meme. "It's revs" is grammatically correct for non-OOC instances. For example someone saying "What's wrong/going on" "It's revs", as in, "It's revolutionaries, [that's what's wrong/going on]" which is a variant context of the final "It's revs" in the OP thread. Does "there's revs" work better and cover more ground? Yeah, but the former is still correct. These are just grammar errors, some I see my fellow college students make when I'm comparing papers with them.
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:Isn't a blanket ban of just not using "its X" less nazi than "You can't use Its X unless you are specifically responding to the question 'whats going on' or 'whats wrong'"? It would be much easier to the player to have it a blanket "don't say it" than it is to have to go through some huge checklist of when it is ok / not ok to say it and hope you don't say it in the wrong circumstance or you can get a bwoink. Just don't say it at all!
Regardless, JUST DONT SAY "IT IS X" where "it" is a pronoun for the gamemode/round/some other ooc concept. There is no need to make this fairly simple rule extremely extensive.
TheWulfe wrote:ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:Isn't a blanket ban of just not using "its X" less nazi than "You can't use Its X unless you are specifically responding to the question 'whats going on' or 'whats wrong'"? It would be much easier to the player to have it a blanket "don't say it" than it is to have to go through some huge checklist of when it is ok / not ok to say it and hope you don't say it in the wrong circumstance or you can get a bwoink. Just don't say it at all!
Regardless, JUST DONT SAY "IT IS X" where "it" is a pronoun for the gamemode/round/some other ooc concept. There is no need to make this fairly simple rule extremely extensive.
You completely jumped right into the point I specifically said I wasn't arguing, you're debating proper usage of a phrase and blanketbanning when my whole point was that the grammar semantics were so dumb it leads straight into that territory. Though unironically calling for a potential blanket ban/monitoring one of the most common contractions in the English language in the same sentence was a bit unsettling.
My point was when a player does flub super easy stuff like missing letters, articles, contractions, that it's so 'eh' - with everyone knowing the context without the proper grammar that would barely slip what they said into technically being OOC in IC you might as well not even bother bwoinking.
oranges wrote:yes because enforcing missing a's will really bring back the rp that tg used to have
yeah fucking right, maybe actually try to address the issue
oranges wrote:yes because enforcing missing a's will really bring back the rp that tg used to have
yeah fucking right, maybe actually try to address the issue
Screemonster wrote:how the fuck are you supposed to RP with a grille
oranges wrote:yes because enforcing missing a's will really bring back the rp that tg used to have
yeah fucking right, maybe actually try to address the issue
thot_slayer wrote:don't be a degenerate online if you don't want people to treat you like a degenerate morty
bandit wrote:what is this
a correct post by pillz
NikNakFlak wrote:you don't even play
oranges wrote:NikNakFlak wrote:you don't even play
Screemonster wrote:how the fuck are you supposed to RP with a grille
PKPenguin321 wrote:Is it really so hard to say "There's a revolution" instead of "It's revs", or "shift" instead of "round"
Smack my head
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