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Post by imblyings » #323007

I was responsible for the new/current name change policy that allowed for honorifics like dr. or titles like mr, doctor, or mononyms. This was based on there being the occasional historically allowed name like Luck, Officer Friendly etc. which were tolerated by admins since forever and more or less grandfathered into the new rules.

However, I've since seen enough names that I regret making this policy (e.g. toallet) and would like to change the name policy to add a strict first name last name minimum, no honorifics rule to make the game just slightly less immersion killing for players. Existing policy like 'if an admin thinks it doesn't fit would be kept. Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed, although I never see them. Silly names would still be allowed, as long as they reasonably fit into a wacky space station setting.

current names that wouldn't fit the policy wouldn't attract a ban the first time, just an admin asking you to change it
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Post by Atlanta-Ned » #323008

Yes, please.
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Post by Lazengann » #323009

Do it

Finally we can put nilons on suicide watch
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Post by kevinz000 » #323010

Lazengann wrote:Do it

Finally we can put nilons on suicide watch
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Post by Aloraydrel » #323011

Mono-names are the first to go on rope day
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Post by captain sawrge » #323012

still seems like a really dumb and petty rule to me but i guess im in the minority on this now
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Post by Qbopper » #323015

from what I've seen names have been getting worse and worse, so any change to the policy is welcome imo

someone tried to convince me that "Steve Robloxcraft" is an ok name
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Post by DemonFiren » #323018

iteq will just play as luck surname again

and nilons will probably stil have a shit name
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Post by captain sawrge » #323023

Qbopper wrote:from what I've seen names have been getting worse and worse, so any change to the policy is welcome imo

someone tried to convince me that "Steve Robloxcraft" is an ok name
pm the egregious examples and handle it case by case
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Post by Qbopper » #323027

true, but it's nice to have something I can point to to tell the rules lawyers to screw off I suppose
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Post by danno » #323028

imblyings wrote:Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed
please no, First "Nickname" Last names are so fucking painfully cringy
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Post by NikNakFlak » #323034

Dan "sawrge" nno
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Post by danno » #323041

Shitposting is a big no-no, NikNak.
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Post by Qbopper » #323043

danno wrote:
imblyings wrote:Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed
please no, First "Nickname" Last names are so fucking painfully cringy
just subtle message them with a highly disapproving message so they think they'll get in trouble for using the nickname format
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Post by BeeSting12 » #323047

I feel like naming policy is being enforced just fine, the most retarded names I've been seeing had the admins fix them/ask the person to change them.
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Post by feem » #323058

You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.

If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
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Post by BeeSting12 » #323059

feem wrote:You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.

If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
what if my parents named me xX_XenoHunter666_Xx
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Post by Armhulen » #323066

BeeSting12 wrote:
feem wrote:You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.

If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
what if my parents named me xX_XenoHunter666_Xx
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Post by Iatots » #323078

Intigracy was right all along.
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Post by XDTM » #323081

I like this, i remember when there was literally someone named DOOM GUY with seemingly no repercussion.
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Post by Qbopper » #323088

XDTM wrote:I like this, i remember when there was literally someone named DOOM GUY with seemingly no repercussion.
a h e l p i t

also really? the guy couldn't come up with something stupid like Dom G. Eih? lame
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Post by danno » #323090

That is the dumbest fucking name I've ever read qbopper apply yourself
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Post by Dr_bee » #323092

feem wrote:You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.

If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
Police records often put nicknames or aliases in them so having the nickname format for a corporate ID isnt out of the ordinary. Some ood name formats should also be allowed such as *blank* of *location* or *lastname* *firstname*, as both have roots in real naming conventions.
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Post by Qbopper » #323096

Qbopper wrote:something stupid like Dom G. Eih
danno wrote:That is the dumbest fucking name I've ever read qbopper apply yourself
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Post by D&B » #323137

Yes, we can finally crack down on stupid names like Lola Cobblestone
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Post by Alipheese » #323144

Aieet mahpoo is finally gonna die

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Post by Gouty » #323161

Alipheese wrote:Aieet mahpoo is finally gonna die
That is a pretty good flyperson name tbh. Plus it doesn't sound a million miles away from legit names from South Asia (e.g. "Ajeet Madhu")

I would like to see the changes outlined in the OP.

Where do we stand on the use of famous/fictional characters as names?
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Post by DemonFiren » #323174

I guess murderous politicians are right out and the rest goes? It seems to be the logic behind banning Hitler and Stalin.

Or maybe it's just about removing memes.
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Post by Owegno » #323175

The Trump stuff got really dull after Donald Trump captain #2 so I would be in favor of a blanket ban against famous real world people.
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Post by Nilons » #323177

back to people being named Cunt Fucklaw with no admin intervention but heavens forbid it have 3 words instead of 2
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Post by DemonFiren » #323185

I dunno, every time I see Donald Trumpet the clown I'm tempted to sign up as Hilarity Clownton.
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Post by Cobby » #323192

D&B wrote:Yes, we can finally crack down on stupid names like Lola Cobblestone
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Post by DemonFiren » #323193

lol, a cobblestone
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Post by Cobby » #323199

DemonFiren wrote:lol, a cobblestone
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Post by Tokiko2 » #323206

Are non-english names still allowed?
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #323207

I personally think if we're going to push this that we should also not allow John "Nickname" Doe names in any capacity. Some guy had a nickname "Ligger Killer" and it was pretty stupid.
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Post by danno » #323212

Yeah if we're disallowing honorifics I don't understand why nicknames would be allowed.
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Post by lzimann » #323213

I don't agree with a more strict name policy. Mono names aren't that bad(unless the name itself is stupid), and the way we handle things, case by case, is mostly fine, obviously it is not perfect, but neither will be a written down policy on names.

And yes, nicknames are pretty stupid overall.
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Post by Armhulen » #323215

I kind of like honorifics, but i really hate nicknames and mono names.
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Post by danno » #323216

I'd like to handle things case by case, but when you do that you get people who simply refuse to comply and then demand to see precedence/a set rule that disallows their name.
That's what keeps happening, even if you say "Well I'm an admin and I say you can't have that name", that's what will happen
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Post by Armhulen » #323221

the name's excessively ooc, it goes under that
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Post by oranges » #323229

captain sawrge wrote:still seems like a really dumb and petty rule to me but i guess im in the minority on this now
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Post by Qbopper » #323238

danno wrote:I'd like to handle things case by case, but when you do that you get people who simply refuse to comply and then demand to see precedence/a set rule that disallows their name.
That's what keeps happening, even if you say "Well I'm an admin and I say you can't have that name", that's what will happen
this happens all the fucking time

also just to throw my opinion in: mono names and honorifics are absolutely dogshit, nicknames are still shit but not as bad imo
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Post by danno » #323251

Ok see you're all giving your delicious little opinions on what you think is ok or "not as bad" or shit or whatever, and you see that's the problem

a ruling like this can't be based around "yeah ok this is fiiiiine and this is ok and this i dont liiiike" and shit
it has to be a strict, formulated system that allows for one type of naming schema and nothing else.
Or, you need to forget about naming ruling entirely and just get rid of names that are inappropriate in a vulgar or OOC fashion.

none of these opinion posts matter because any ruling based on them will be un-maintainable
any "Case by case" system will crumble in the same way

Basically;

Either restrict names to "Firstname Lastname" across the board, or forget naming policy entirely and just don't let people name themselves Adolf Hitler
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Post by NikNakFlak » #323290

You're basing that entire fact around admins not having good enough judgement when to make a call.
Basically, the no faith in admins route, but how often do we get an admin complaint from someone changing their name and even if we do, we usually just laugh because their name is usually bad enough to change.
That or sparks ANOTHER thread like this.
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Post by oranges » #323292

I think at this point we can assume safely everyone has very little faith in the credibility of the admins niknak, just look at the mess of a rules page we have now
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Post by DemonFiren » #323296

I think the problem is more that there's precedent of shitters pretending not to understand the spirit of a rule as an excuse for line-toeing, requiring rules to be worded unambiguously and unmisinterpretably, which just won't work.
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Post by Grazyn » #323298

Yes because enforcing a stricter naming policy will really bring back the RP tg used to have.
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Post by Gouty » #323299

OK I started writing for like a scoring system, but realised I was talking out of my ass
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Something like:

Famous/fictional person +5
Mononymn +5
Honorific +5
Inappropriate +3
Poor taste +3
Overdone meme +2
Funny -2
Clever -2
Original -2

I realise that a lot of this is still open to interpretation, but could we not build on it? Nevermind this is terrible
How about "Character names with the following characteristics may cause an admin to ask you to change it:
  • Famous real or fictional people
  • Mononyms (a single name)
  • Honorifics/Titles (e.g. Mr., Dr., Rev.)
  • Poor taste or inappropriate
  • The same or similar to others on the server
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Though this does not get rid of the "but what about x".
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