name change policy change
- imblyings
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name change policy change
I was responsible for the new/current name change policy that allowed for honorifics like dr. or titles like mr, doctor, or mononyms. This was based on there being the occasional historically allowed name like Luck, Officer Friendly etc. which were tolerated by admins since forever and more or less grandfathered into the new rules.
However, I've since seen enough names that I regret making this policy (e.g. toallet) and would like to change the name policy to add a strict first name last name minimum, no honorifics rule to make the game just slightly less immersion killing for players. Existing policy like 'if an admin thinks it doesn't fit would be kept. Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed, although I never see them. Silly names would still be allowed, as long as they reasonably fit into a wacky space station setting.
current names that wouldn't fit the policy wouldn't attract a ban the first time, just an admin asking you to change it
However, I've since seen enough names that I regret making this policy (e.g. toallet) and would like to change the name policy to add a strict first name last name minimum, no honorifics rule to make the game just slightly less immersion killing for players. Existing policy like 'if an admin thinks it doesn't fit would be kept. Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed, although I never see them. Silly names would still be allowed, as long as they reasonably fit into a wacky space station setting.
current names that wouldn't fit the policy wouldn't attract a ban the first time, just an admin asking you to change it
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- Atlanta-Ned
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Re: name change policy change
Yes, please.
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Re: name change policy change
Do it
Finally we can put nilons on suicide watch
Finally we can put nilons on suicide watch
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Re: name change policy change
Lazengann wrote:Do it
Finally we can put nilons on suicide watch
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- Aloraydrel
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Re: name change policy change
Mono-names are the first to go on rope day
- captain sawrge
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Re: name change policy change
still seems like a really dumb and petty rule to me but i guess im in the minority on this now
- Qbopper
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Re: name change policy change
from what I've seen names have been getting worse and worse, so any change to the policy is welcome imo
someone tried to convince me that "Steve Robloxcraft" is an ok name
someone tried to convince me that "Steve Robloxcraft" is an ok name
Limey wrote:its too late.
- DemonFiren
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Re: name change policy change
iteq will just play as luck surname again
and nilons will probably stil have a shit name
and nilons will probably stil have a shit name
- captain sawrge
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Re: name change policy change
pm the egregious examples and handle it case by caseQbopper wrote:from what I've seen names have been getting worse and worse, so any change to the policy is welcome imo
someone tried to convince me that "Steve Robloxcraft" is an ok name
- Qbopper
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Re: name change policy change
true, but it's nice to have something I can point to to tell the rules lawyers to screw off I suppose
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Re: name change policy change
please no, First "Nickname" Last names are so fucking painfully cringyimblyings wrote:Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed
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Re: name change policy change
Dan "sawrge" nno
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Re: name change policy change
Shitposting is a big no-no, NikNak.
- Qbopper
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Re: name change policy change
just subtle message them with a highly disapproving message so they think they'll get in trouble for using the nickname formatdanno wrote:please no, First "Nickname" Last names are so fucking painfully cringyimblyings wrote:Reasonable nicknames in the middle of a name would still be allowed
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: name change policy change
I feel like naming policy is being enforced just fine, the most retarded names I've been seeing had the admins fix them/ask the person to change them.
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Re: name change policy change
You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.
If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
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Re: name change policy change
what if my parents named me xX_XenoHunter666_Xxfeem wrote:You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.
If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
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Re: name change policy change
stopBeeSting12 wrote:what if my parents named me xX_XenoHunter666_Xxfeem wrote:You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.
If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
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Re: name change policy change
Intigracy was right all along.
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Re: name change policy change
I like this, i remember when there was literally someone named DOOM GUY with seemingly no repercussion.
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- Qbopper
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Re: name change policy change
a h e l p i tXDTM wrote:I like this, i remember when there was literally someone named DOOM GUY with seemingly no repercussion.
also really? the guy couldn't come up with something stupid like Dom G. Eih? lame
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Re: name change policy change
That is the dumbest fucking name I've ever read qbopper apply yourself
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Re: name change policy change
Police records often put nicknames or aliases in them so having the nickname format for a corporate ID isnt out of the ordinary. Some ood name formats should also be allowed such as *blank* of *location* or *lastname* *firstname*, as both have roots in real naming conventions.feem wrote:You might not like the name you're given, but that's the name you're given. Unless you're a clown or a mime, the game (and Nanotrasen) assumes your name is YOUR GIVEN NAME.
If your name is Sandy Sandberg and you prefer to go by squishy, just ";HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANDBERG BUT I PREFER TO GO BY SQUISHY at the beginning of every round, I'm sure nobody will hate you and murder you and your family for that or anything.
- Qbopper
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Re: name change policy change
Qbopper wrote:something stupid like Dom G. Eih
danno wrote:That is the dumbest fucking name I've ever read qbopper apply yourself
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: name change policy change
Yes, we can finally crack down on stupid names like Lola Cobblestone
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Re: name change policy change
Aieet mahpoo is finally gonna die
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Re: name change policy change
excuses
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Re: name change policy change
That is a pretty good flyperson name tbh. Plus it doesn't sound a million miles away from legit names from South Asia (e.g. "Ajeet Madhu")Alipheese wrote:Aieet mahpoo is finally gonna die
I would like to see the changes outlined in the OP.
Where do we stand on the use of famous/fictional characters as names?
- DemonFiren
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Re: name change policy change
I guess murderous politicians are right out and the rest goes? It seems to be the logic behind banning Hitler and Stalin.
Or maybe it's just about removing memes.
Or maybe it's just about removing memes.
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Re: name change policy change
The Trump stuff got really dull after Donald Trump captain #2 so I would be in favor of a blanket ban against famous real world people.
- Nilons
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Re: name change policy change
back to people being named Cunt Fucklaw with no admin intervention but heavens forbid it have 3 words instead of 2
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Re: name change policy change
I dunno, every time I see Donald Trumpet the clown I'm tempted to sign up as Hilarity Clownton.
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Re: name change policy change
This isn't NTR hut!D&B wrote:Yes, we can finally crack down on stupid names like Lola Cobblestone
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Re: name change policy change
liz a rdDemonFiren wrote:lol, a cobblestone
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Re: name change policy change
Are non-english names still allowed?
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Re: name change policy change
I personally think if we're going to push this that we should also not allow John "Nickname" Doe names in any capacity. Some guy had a nickname "Ligger Killer" and it was pretty stupid.
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tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: name change policy change
Yeah if we're disallowing honorifics I don't understand why nicknames would be allowed.
Dr. Jimmy Dickhead - > Jimmy "Dr." Dickhead
Dr. Jimmy Dickhead - > Jimmy "Dr." Dickhead
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Re: name change policy change
I don't agree with a more strict name policy. Mono names aren't that bad(unless the name itself is stupid), and the way we handle things, case by case, is mostly fine, obviously it is not perfect, but neither will be a written down policy on names.
And yes, nicknames are pretty stupid overall.
And yes, nicknames are pretty stupid overall.
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Re: name change policy change
I kind of like honorifics, but i really hate nicknames and mono names.
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Re: name change policy change
I'd like to handle things case by case, but when you do that you get people who simply refuse to comply and then demand to see precedence/a set rule that disallows their name.
That's what keeps happening, even if you say "Well I'm an admin and I say you can't have that name", that's what will happen
That's what keeps happening, even if you say "Well I'm an admin and I say you can't have that name", that's what will happen
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Re: name change policy change
the name's excessively ooc, it goes under that
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Re: name change policy change
captain sawrge wrote:still seems like a really dumb and petty rule to me but i guess im in the minority on this now
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Re: name change policy change
this happens all the fucking timedanno wrote:I'd like to handle things case by case, but when you do that you get people who simply refuse to comply and then demand to see precedence/a set rule that disallows their name.
That's what keeps happening, even if you say "Well I'm an admin and I say you can't have that name", that's what will happen
also just to throw my opinion in: mono names and honorifics are absolutely dogshit, nicknames are still shit but not as bad imo
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Re: name change policy change
Ok see you're all giving your delicious little opinions on what you think is ok or "not as bad" or shit or whatever, and you see that's the problem
a ruling like this can't be based around "yeah ok this is fiiiiine and this is ok and this i dont liiiike" and shit
it has to be a strict, formulated system that allows for one type of naming schema and nothing else.
Or, you need to forget about naming ruling entirely and just get rid of names that are inappropriate in a vulgar or OOC fashion.
none of these opinion posts matter because any ruling based on them will be un-maintainable
any "Case by case" system will crumble in the same way
Basically;
Either restrict names to "Firstname Lastname" across the board, or forget naming policy entirely and just don't let people name themselves Adolf Hitler
a ruling like this can't be based around "yeah ok this is fiiiiine and this is ok and this i dont liiiike" and shit
it has to be a strict, formulated system that allows for one type of naming schema and nothing else.
Or, you need to forget about naming ruling entirely and just get rid of names that are inappropriate in a vulgar or OOC fashion.
none of these opinion posts matter because any ruling based on them will be un-maintainable
any "Case by case" system will crumble in the same way
Basically;
Either restrict names to "Firstname Lastname" across the board, or forget naming policy entirely and just don't let people name themselves Adolf Hitler
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Re: name change policy change
You're basing that entire fact around admins not having good enough judgement when to make a call.
Basically, the no faith in admins route, but how often do we get an admin complaint from someone changing their name and even if we do, we usually just laugh because their name is usually bad enough to change.
That or sparks ANOTHER thread like this.
Basically, the no faith in admins route, but how often do we get an admin complaint from someone changing their name and even if we do, we usually just laugh because their name is usually bad enough to change.
That or sparks ANOTHER thread like this.
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Re: name change policy change
I think at this point we can assume safely everyone has very little faith in the credibility of the admins niknak, just look at the mess of a rules page we have now
- DemonFiren
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Re: name change policy change
I think the problem is more that there's precedent of shitters pretending not to understand the spirit of a rule as an excuse for line-toeing, requiring rules to be worded unambiguously and unmisinterpretably, which just won't work.
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Re: name change policy change
Yes because enforcing a stricter naming policy will really bring back the RP tg used to have.
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Re: name change policy change
OK I started writing for like a scoring system, but realised I was talking out of my ass
How about "Character names with the following characteristics may cause an admin to ask you to change it:
Though this does not get rid of the "but what about x".
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- Famous real or fictional people
- Mononyms (a single name)
- Honorifics/Titles (e.g. Mr., Dr., Rev.)
- Poor taste or inappropriate
- The same or similar to others on the server
Though this does not get rid of the "but what about x".
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