Sibyl 2: Electric Boogaloo

Psyentific · Post by **Psyentific** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:00 am #32319

I don't need anything more than this image to make my point.

Switch Basil over to Box or Metastation, please

Silavite · Post by **Silavite** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:20 am #32323

Agreed

callanrockslol · Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:21 am

NO ITS BETTER LIKE THIS DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Aranclanos · Post by **Aranclanos** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:22 am #32325

100 PLAYERS AND NO LAG

Psyentific · Post by **Psyentific** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:24 am #32327

Aranclanos wrote:100 PLAYERS AND NO LAG

100 PLAYERS AND 50 JOBSLOTS
GREY TIDE!

Aranclanos · Post by **Aranclanos** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:36 am #32332

AND NO LAG

Psyentific · Post by **Psyentific** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:53 am #32336

Aranclanos wrote:AND NO LAG

Seriously, though. The resources, space, and jobslots on Box are designed to handle 50-60 people. Most people in OOC agree that the ideal playercount is somewhere between 30 and 65. Quite simply, there aren't enough jobslots, job lockers, tools, equipment, or generally enough space and resources to support a population this size. Nobody's arguing lag; As a matter of fact, I'd say that 90 players with no lag, in ss13, coded in byond, is an incredible accomplishment. The people responsible should feel proud.

I really don't want to play on a server with 90 people.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:06 am #32356

I would say for the interim put Boxstation on Basil.

Politics aside, this might help boost its population to a actual reasonable number, and incentivise people to spill over when Sybil gets to crowded.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:32 am #32369

Fuck it go for metastation even though it's not being updated anymore, someone will pitch in and change it.

Allura's map looks really promising, and if we run it on basil for playtesting, allura could be our new metacide.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:52 am #32413

If the server can handle 100 people at once, maybe we should design a new map with that many people in mind.

I kinda wonder if that's even possible though. There are only so many people you need to do a particular job, even on a bigger station

Munchlax · Post by **Munchlax** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:09 pm #32433

just run box on it, anyone who cries about meta being better than box is a salty bitch, they're basically the same.

Stickymayhem · Post by **Stickymayhem** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:19 pm #32436

The issue is making a bigger map would not only piss of boxstation fanboys like me, but fuck up the other 18 hours of the day when the population is 20-40 and the station is a ghostown.

If I see pops get that retarded again I'll all but force people to Basil for some silly events or something else enticing.

But yeah box on Basil would be good.

Hibbles · Post by **Hibbles** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:20 pm #32462

Box on Basil, Meta on Sibyl, and just watch what happens. I'm honestly not sure what would happen but it could be fun.

And would provoke a lot of mad even if we specify it's temporary.

Munchlax · Post by **Munchlax** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:43 pm #32466

was done, was stupid

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:00 pm #32469

you're stupid.
leave it as it was, meta on #2 and box on #1

BI BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. Since when has been giving options to players a bad thing? Just because you don't like meta doesn't mean everyone else doesn't.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:11 pm #32488

Stickymayhem wrote:the population is 20-40 and the station is a ghostown.

>Ghost town
>Decent population that map and job setup was actually designed to handle

geilebeer wrote:just run box on it, anyone who cries about meta being better than box is a salty bitch, they're basically the same.

Under that logic, just run Meta on it. Anyone who cries about box being better...
Neither of them is any harder to run, and Meta doesn't actually need to be changed until someone codes something that requires map edits.

Punnches · Post by **Punnches** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:59 pm #32533

If we really want to solve this issue, we must completely redesign box (Yes I know box is a staple of tgstation) for a max of 120 to 130 players. The costs of hosting two servers at once is quite large, and we really should give SoS a break and bring everyone over to glorious sybil. I also propose that we hire actual mappers, for pay, to work on this new map.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:38 pm #32546

Suddenly, a wild board moderator I've never seen before appears.

Am I the only one who doesn't like sharing space with a hundred people?

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:17 am #32555

yeah no just put meta on basil and everyone who wants to play there will play there

callanrockslol · Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:16 am

Cipher3 wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't like sharing space with a hundred people?

yes

ＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄＤｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅＹｏｕｒｓｅｌｆＡｎｄＦａｃｅＴｏＢｌｏｏｄｓｈｅｄ

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:39 am #32579

Punnches wrote:If we really want to solve this issue, we must completely redesign box (Yes I know box is a staple of tgstation) for a max of 120 to 130 players. The costs of hosting two servers at once is quite large, and we really should give SoS a break and bring everyone over to glorious sybil. I also propose that we hire actual mappers, for pay, to work on this new map.

There were 3 servers for quite a long time.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:52 am #32597

Basil now has box. It's not meta but it is a bigger map. I will try to idle on basil as much as possible even if there are no players on it for hours, just in the small hope that population and regular game-play resumes there. Basil come back, I miss you.

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:53 am #32598

why is it boxxxxxxxxx

Munchlax · Post by **Munchlax** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:46 am #32602

@cipher
From what I understand meta isn't being maintained anymore while box is, that's why box is a better choice, but whatever you want man.

Lovecraft · Post by **Lovecraft** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:55 am #32603

NikNakFlak wrote:Basil now has box. It's not meta but it is a bigger map. I will try to idle on basil as much as possible even if there are no players on it for hours, just in the small hope that population and regular game-play resumes there. Basil come back, I miss you.

Meta is what made it special.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:48 am #32633

Aranclanos wrote:100 PLAYERS AND NO LAG

saycode rewrite ftw
headcoder me pls

callanrockslol · Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:19 am

Lovecraft wrote:
NikNakFlak wrote:Basil now has box. It's not meta but it is a bigger map. I will try to idle on basil as much as possible even if there are no players on it for hours, just in the small hope that population and regular game-play resumes there. Basil come back, I miss you.
Meta is what made it special.

No it isn't, what made server 2 special was the massive metafriend group that played there, you should have seen it, that was special.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:25 am #32646

Fuck you callan you don't know the epic 2 minute rev rounds we had

Incomptinence · Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:07 pm

Quick rev was surprisingly likely anywhere when heads could just flat out kill themselves at round start.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:30 pm #32745

If I had more time I would run regular events to try and spark the population on basil, but for now, at least being there when I can is all I can do.

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:45 pm #32769

there is no point for basil to be using box
we dont need 2 box servers

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:43 am #32821

>Idle on the server for three hours. Like, at most 6 people connect and we talk about reviving Basil
>I end falling asleep and taking a nap for 3 hours because I'm really fucking tired
>This happens

>I wake up, and suddenly it got a name change and BAM MOTHERFUCKING POPULATION
>YAY! BUT FUCK come on!
In other words
REJOICE

Psyentific · Post by **Psyentific** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:53 am #32822

iteq · Post by **iteq** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:24 am #32825

thank the based gods

JStheguy · Post by **JStheguy** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:04 am #32827

NikNakFlak wrote:>Idle on the server for three hours. Like, at most 6 people connect and we talk about reviving Basil
>I end falling asleep and taking a nap for 3 hours because I'm really fucking tired
>This happens

>I wake up, and suddenly it got a name change and BAM MOTHERFUCKING POPULATION
>YAY! BUT FUCK come on!
In other words
REJOICE

What was once lost is now found.

Aranclanos · Post by **Aranclanos** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:14 am #32830

(make a mineral statue, not a poster)

mrpain · Post by **mrpain** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:30 am #32837

Hibbles wrote:Box on Basil, Meta on Sibyl, and just watch what happens. I'm honestly not sure what would happen but it could be fun.

And would provoke a lot of mad even if we specify it's temporary.

We did that about a year ago when servers where borking and someone wanted to test to see if it was a server/hardware issue or something, or a map/bug issue.

Sybil died, Basil or whatever the fuck it was called then thrived.

Not a lot of people liked Metastation at the time. It was a very vocal minority.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:53 am #32846

Welcome to 'Badger', enjoy your visit.

I also hear that Badger/Basil got the pop boost because some admins moved players over.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:00 am #32886

I am pretty sure moving players between SS13 servers as an admin is impossible, short from banning them and demanding they log onto the other server.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:09 am #32888

I meant by asking players to move.

Bluespace · Post by **Bluespace** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:04 pm #32908

HBL hyped up Badger on Sibyl and promised admin events so yeah.

Cheridan · Post by **Cheridan** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:57 pm #32915

Steelpoint wrote:I also hear that Badger/Basil got the pop boost because some admins moved players over.

how dare that vile admin force innocent players to emigrate from their home servers by bribing them with fun.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:36 pm #32924

Cheridan wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:I also hear that Badger/Basil got the pop boost because some admins moved players over.
how dare that vile admin force innocent players to emigrate from their home servers by bribing them with fun.

I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, if anything it was a smart move to help jump start Badgers population.

Cheridan · Post by **Cheridan** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:22 pm #32930

Steelpoint wrote:
Cheridan wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:I also hear that Badger/Basil got the pop boost because some admins moved players over.
how dare that vile admin force innocent players to emigrate from their home servers by bribing them with fun.
I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, if anything it was a smart move to help jump start Badgers population.

Heh, ok.
The funny thing is, I think some people actually saw it that way though. SoS said he kept getting angry PMs about the server's renaming.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:40 pm #33608

That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:02 pm #33614

isn't that a quote from The Call Of Cthulhu?

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:44 pm #33644

its from the nameless city

TheColdTurtle · Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:16 am

Amazing how much this has changed, now bagil is the highpop server while sybil is medium pop.

Quanti · Post by **Quanti** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:27 am #274707

time to flip this turtle onto its back

Haevacht · Post by **Haevacht** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:45 am #274709

Quanti wrote:time to flip this turtle onto its back

Them impale, roast, and serve as a delicacy, the once cold turtle.