Streaming and metagaming
- Dax Dupont
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Streaming and metagaming
It's it really okay to stream your game like Wyzack was doing.
I mean I understand it's for charity and what not but it seems like a bad precedent. I am not sure if it's priorly approved but as far as I've seen it wasn't announced.
Considering the crackdowns that happened because people were merely in the same discord, openly streaming seems a bad idea.
Are other people allowed to stream or this a one off thing?
Either way, if it's a one off thing please just announce it as an event. That would clear up all of the things
I mean I understand it's for charity and what not but it seems like a bad precedent. I am not sure if it's priorly approved but as far as I've seen it wasn't announced.
Considering the crackdowns that happened because people were merely in the same discord, openly streaming seems a bad idea.
Are other people allowed to stream or this a one off thing?
Either way, if it's a one off thing please just announce it as an event. That would clear up all of the things
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
We allow streams sometimes if they're on a heavy delay, and it's heavily case by case. Wyzack is doing a charity event stream with a minor delay, and we allowed it in this case.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
And announcing a stream beforehand would only increase potential metagaming so no
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
I guess it depends but when I was headmin and somebody asked if they could stream IIRC I said at least 15 minutes, wyzack's stream was obviously way shorter (like only a few minutes) but again it's case by caseGook Nukem wrote:How much of a delayPKPenguin321 wrote:minor delay
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
If i released a singulo as a non-antag would i get a shorter ban if someone had donated money to charity to make me do itPKPenguin321 wrote:I guess it depends but when I was headmin and somebody asked if they could stream IIRC I said at least 15 minutes, wyzack's stream was obviously way shorter (like only a few minutes) but again it's case by caseGook Nukem wrote:How much of a delayPKPenguin321 wrote:minor delay
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
I personally don't care if you only have a small delay during regular streaming. Gaining meta info is already super easy (even for something as simple as being cloned), it's acting on it that we look out and ban for (warning admins you are gonna stream beforehand can help with that though).
The wyzack thing was a one off that he first brought up a month ago and which all the headmins signed off on, I don't think we need any long term policy to cover that. Rule 0 for charity.
The wyzack thing was a one off that he first brought up a month ago and which all the headmins signed off on, I don't think we need any long term policy to cover that. Rule 0 for charity.
This was dumb and the bans got lifted it shouldn't be looked to as precedent for anythingConsidering the crackdowns that happened because people were merely in the same discord, openly streaming seems a bad idea.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
If you can verify you are actually participating in a charitable event then you can coordinate such questions with headmins in advance.Gook Nukem wrote:If i released a singulo as a non-antag would i get a shorter ban if someone had donated money to charity to make me do itPKPenguin321 wrote:I guess it depends but when I was headmin and somebody asked if they could stream IIRC I said at least 15 minutes, wyzack's stream was obviously way shorter (like only a few minutes) but again it's case by caseGook Nukem wrote:How much of a delayPKPenguin321 wrote:minor delay
Until then I'm not sure what the point of hypotheticals like that are.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
Are antags allowed to hunt down and gank the shit out of the streamers like what happens every single time one of the frontier staff livestreams Elite? Because that never gets old.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
If they stream with zero delay sure they brought that on themselves. Don't want a repeat of the PUBG dramaScreemonster wrote:Are antags allowed to hunt down and gank the shit out of the streamers like what happens every single time one of the frontier staff livestreams Elite? Because that never gets old.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
This is a rare event and I think there are times where the rules should be broken.
I don't think this kind of event requires a heavy handed ruling simply because of principals.
You can fight on principals for around 200 dollars to a children charity and argue over broken principals.
Sometimes the rules are broken because it isn't worth the effort to uphold those principals. Sometimes because the benefit outweighs the cost.
This doesn't mean that everyone can be given this free pass, but I think three rounds for around 200 give or take averaging around 65 dollars per round is excusable in this context.
I don't think this kind of event requires a heavy handed ruling simply because of principals.
You can fight on principals for around 200 dollars to a children charity and argue over broken principals.
Sometimes the rules are broken because it isn't worth the effort to uphold those principals. Sometimes because the benefit outweighs the cost.
This doesn't mean that everyone can be given this free pass, but I think three rounds for around 200 give or take averaging around 65 dollars per round is excusable in this context.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
It's made $273 at the time of posting this
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
i still want you to get the money in 10 dollar bills and fire it through the window of a childrens hospital with a potato cannon like you said you would at 1000 dollars
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
All I wanted it if this thread is a confirmation that streaming is bad unless prior approval. Which it was in this case and good job on raising money for kids.
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Re: Streaming and metagaming
A policy discussion thread that is resolved without drama. Weird.
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