Headmin Election General

QuartzCrystal · Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:14 am

Bottom post of the previous page:

oranges wrote:He made some comments about rape in #adminbus and sos had a fit

I was going to leave it up to Sticky to clarify, but this deserves more context, Stickymayhem made a joke that SoS took exception to.

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:17 am #37746

oh huh

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:35 am #37760

I'm fairly certain it also has to do with his indiegogo and 'le edit posters' shenanigans

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:35 am #37761

indiegogo?

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:43 am #37763

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fund ... n-campaign

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:53 am #37766

oh wow
why would you ever do that

Snake2512 · Post by **Snake2512** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:17 am #37769

miggles wrote:i nominate snake2512 for headmin

I nominate myself

peoplearestrange · Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:59 pm

I have a questions about the voting system.

Is there anyone that cannot vote?
What type of voting will this be (for example True Proportional representation with a single vote)?

QuartzCrystal · Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:39 pm

peoplearestrange wrote:I have a questions about the voting system.

Is there anyone that cannot vote?
What type of voting will this be (for example True Proportional representation with a single vote)?

Anyone who is banned cannot vote.

I'm thinking the easiest would be an initial vote, then holding a run off vote with the top 3 or so (depending on how the distribution ends up).

Stickymayhem · Post by **Stickymayhem** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:52 pm #37826

miggles wrote:oh wow
why would you ever do that

It was a joke that we found funny at the time but got out of hand pretty quick.

I never expected anyone to donate, but people are cool I guess.

paprika wrote:I'm fairly certain it also has to do with his indiegogo and 'le edit posters' shenanigans

It was entirely to do with the dumb comment I made. That wasn't a joke though.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:01 pm #37832

Ikarrus wrote:Remember, the position we are electing here is head administrator, not head coder. Coderbus is a separate entity from the administration. Unless your name is SoS, they doesn't give two shits about what position you hold.

Headmins can't "make" coderbus do anything.

Which is funny, since coderbus wants to be autonomous they shouldn't get any representation in adminbus in the slightest. They want representation? Lose some of that autonomy and you can get representation. I don't want some country in china to run my county when I can't do shit to affect them; so why the fuck do coderbus get to vote for a headmin?

scaredofshadows · Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:25 pm

QuartzCrystal wrote:
oranges wrote:He made some comments about rape in #adminbus and sos had a fit
I was going to leave it up to Sticky to clarify, but this deserves more context, Stickymayhem made a joke that SoS took exception to.

It's my opinion that Sticky wouldn't be a good fit as head admin. There wasn't any single event that brought this about.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:46 pm #37848

Might want to take a second look at some of the other candidates if you really feel that way SoS.

TheTerbs · Post by **TheTerbs** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:05 pm #37863

nominate me you fucks

QuartzCrystal · Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:10 pm

Currently banned players cannot be nominated or run.

TheTerbs · Post by **TheTerbs** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:12 pm #37868

QuartzCrystal wrote:Currently banned players cannot be nominated or run.

yeah we'll see about that

implung im not playing right now

implugying im banned on my alt

u cant stop lex luger

Aurx · Post by **Aurx** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:58 pm #37878

/vg/station is enough headminning for me, I'm turning down the nomination.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:42 pm #37880

>not wanting to be know as lmao 2headmin

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:44 pm #37894

I nominate the guy who was playing Cuban Pete. I belive he is not banned.

QuartzCrystal · Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:02 pm

Nomination period is over.

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:12 pm #37902

Cuban Pete is denied his rightful role as Headmin of SpaceMansStationTegee13, the voting has been set up! But fear not, because next time Cuban Pete will succeed!

QuartzCrystal · Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:51 am

See the OP for when the vote(s) will be happening.

callanrockslol · Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:25 am

ColonicAcid wrote:
Ikarrus wrote:Remember, the position we are electing here is head administrator, not head coder. Coderbus is a separate entity from the administration. Unless your name is SoS, they doesn't give two shits about what position you hold.

Headmins can't "make" coderbus do anything.
Which is funny, since coderbus wants to be autonomous they shouldn't get any representation in adminbus in the slightest. They want representation? Lose some of that autonomy and you can get representation. I don't want some country in china to run my county when I can't do shit to affect them; so why the fuck do coderbus get to vote for a headmin?

Until this issue is sorted i dont think headmin elections should go aheas, this is an importamt issue

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:23 am #38199

Violaceus wrote:Admins... Head Admins who are in charge of server have no right to decide about content of this server?

Admins are GMs, GMs generally haven't had much of a say over the actual content of the game.

In our case, gamemins and headmins are kinda limited in their powers, they don't control the code, they don't control the content of the game, they don't control the web site, they don't control the forums.

They control the game, or rather the round. They control the round, who's allowed to participate in it and how they are allowed to participate.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:38 am #38207

Tle was head coder and head admin, pretty sure xsi was too

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:03 am #38210

Admins deal with the card's they are given, coders/mappers are the one's to decide on game content.

The only real stop there is if SoS decides to not update the server files.

This is what occurs when you separate the departments/areas into separate entities. There are advantages, but the disadvantage is that game balance is held in the hands of a small group that don't have to actually associate themselves with the server (Even though for all intents and purposes they are).

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:41 am #38221

player vote when

QuartzCrystal · Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:14 pm

paprika wrote:player vote when

Read the notice on the main web page or the OP...

Anyways, on the subject of coders and representation. Admins are almost always the first ones to sound the alarm on negatively game changes. I would think that with SoS giving his choice to the coders that he's hoping to have the coders be held more accountable, but also have more input beyond just what they code.

Spacemanspark · Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:15 pm

paprika wrote:player vote when

QuartzCrystal wrote:The first round of voting will take place over this weekend (Friday the 24th to Sunday the 26th) a run off vote of the top contenders will then take place immediately after for the next three days.

QuartzCrystal · Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:02 pm

Skorvold has dropped out of the race.

Bluespace · Post by **Bluespace** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:28 pm #38299

Daaaang, Skor is out.

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:37 pm #38314

And he was the only person i would vote on without regrets.
Shit.

Apsis · Post by **Apsis** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:17 am #38564

Where's the voting result progress? Is it hidden until the end?

QuartzCrystal · Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:33 am

Hidden until run off vote.

peoplearestrange · Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:30 pm

So where DO we vote? It's not that clear... or maybe I'm just not that awake yet...

Nevermind, just worked it out. In-game poll. Log in to the game to play vote

callanrockslol · Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:53 am

MrStonedOne wrote:
Violaceus wrote:Admins... Head Admins who are in charge of server have no right to decide about content of this server?

Admins are GMs, GMs generally haven't had much of a say over the actual content of the game.

In our case, gamemins and headmins are kinda limited in their powers, they don't control the code, they don't control the content of the game, they don't control the web site, they don't control the forums.

They control the game, or rather the round. They control the round, who's allowed to participate in it and how they are allowed to participate.

So perhaps a complete separation of powers is what is needed.

Because that happened before, we lost two forums, literally all of coderbus at least three times and most of the good admins.

Integrated power structure 2015.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:27 am #38962

Round 1 unofficial results:

Code: Select all

+-------+-------------+
| votes | candidate   |
+-------+-------------+
|    45 | AN0n3       |
|    41 | Bluespace   |
|    39 | Ikarrus     |
|    39 | Hornygranny |
|    23 | Pandarsenic |
|    13 | MisterStaub |
|     4 | Comrade Leo |
+-------+-------------+

Per-request i will be running a query to detect and ignore multiple votes by one user and will be updating this with the results.

A run off vote is currently queued to run with the top 4 people, and will show up in the game server once sos adds it.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:33 am #38966

Wow, that's a lot of votes for just the weekend, I'm impressed. I'm betting on an0n3/ikarrus/HG which is not that bad of a headmin team the more I think about it. They're all super oldfag.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:39 am #38967

EDIT: Whoops I think I misconstrued what you're talking about.

If you're talking about a TOTAL prediction of

Player vote: AN0n3
Admin vote: Ikarrus
Coder vote: HornyGranny

Then yeah I can see that happening and working out really well.

Pandarsenic · Post by **Pandarsenic** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:48 am #38970

I'd like to formally request that anyone who voted for me vote for Ikarrus in the runoff.

callanrockslol · Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:25 am

Toss the democracy out we already got good results.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:16 am #38993

Go Team Oldfag!

Bluespace · Post by **Bluespace** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am #38996

Looks like I have a shot.
Bluespace for a better future!

Incomptinence · Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:12 am

If only this was glorious preferences based voting it would already be sorted, oh well.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:15 am #38998

I stand by my opinion that voting for bluespace is a bad idea.

UtterNewbie · Post by **UtterNewbie** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:40 pm #39032

I stand by my opinion that voting for Ikkarus is voting for heavy handed "roleplay" and "play my way" administration.

Hornygranny is HBL v2.

Bluespace wont get any respect from anyone in current administration and will have little impact.

Also find it hilarious that out of 7 candidates 4(!) are going to second round. Over half. Democracy ho, that tied vote.

QuartzCrystal · Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:17 pm

I included Pandarsenic's endorsement in the candidate list. If Staub and Leo would like to endorse anyone please let us know soon.

Comrade Leo · Post by **Comrade Leo** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:30 pm #39036

I offer no endorsements, but I will say in the interests of both the admin team and playerbase, of which their respective headmins are meant to represent, do not vote HG for player headmin and create a coderbus majority over all headmin decisions.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:03 pm #39053

Well, technically speaking we aren't sure it's a two-way tie for 3rd.

If even one person used a second ckey to vote for either candidate twice it breaks the tie and we'll have a proper runoff between the top 3.

Hell for all we yet know all of my votes could've come from a very enthusiastic Tonto.

Hornygranny · Post by **Hornygranny** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:31 pm #39075

Vote for Ikarrus if you were going to vote for me, I am bowing out.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:52 pm #39095

>39 votes for HG

I don't even.