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arguing in bad faith, reported you to the moderatorsbandit wrote:holy shit why are there 12 pages of this
it's food. no matter what it is, you just end up shitting it out (hi TCP). who gives a fuck what others eat
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arguing in bad faith, reported you to the moderatorsbandit wrote:holy shit why are there 12 pages of this
it's food. no matter what it is, you just end up shitting it out (hi TCP). who gives a fuck what others eat
oranges wrote:pork, the nondescript, commoner king, literally so stealth you could just your normal name in OOC and nobody would know, long may he reign as the secret commander
Deitus wrote:If your signature is scrollable it's too long and fucking obnoxious and you should feel bad
PKPenguin321 wrote:I've been had by yet another tg boondoggle
What do you prescribe doctor?Doctor Pork wrote:i hope vegan world bad end happens then ill finally have enough time to be a good admin
lentilsFantasticFwoosh wrote:What do you prescribe doctor?Doctor Pork wrote:i hope vegan world bad end happens then ill finally have enough time to be a good admin
oranges wrote:pork, the nondescript, commoner king, literally so stealth you could just your normal name in OOC and nobody would know, long may he reign as the secret commander
Deitus wrote:If your signature is scrollable it's too long and fucking obnoxious and you should feel bad
PKPenguin321 wrote:I've been had by yet another tg boondoggle
Limey wrote:its too late.
Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
How does it feel that my shitposts get 610 more replies than yoursThe Clowns Pocket wrote:Daily reminder that all your problems in life are due to the jews controlling the niggers to outrbreed the poor innocent white race for which is a good race
if you see a nigger kill them. I like to call em shit skins myself lol
get it? because poo!
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
why do you hate the white race? do you WANT us to be outbred by shitskins in trees?Stickymayhem wrote:How does it feel that my shitposts get 610 more replies than yoursThe Clowns Pocket wrote:Daily reminder that all your problems in life are due to the jews controlling the niggers to outrbreed the poor innocent white race for which is a good race
if you see a nigger kill them. I like to call em shit skins myself lol
get it? because poo!
go vegan
Killing an animal is animal abuse. Killing a human is murder.Kor wrote:Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
Killing a human is human abuse. Killing an animal is murder.somerandomguy wrote:Killing an animal is animal abuse. Killing a human is murder.Kor wrote:Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
you say this like this is not the position that literally everybody ever would haveColonicAcid wrote:im pro to any government wanting to enforce social values only if its social values that i think are good...
Limey wrote:its too late.
The law begs to differ.Stickymayhem wrote:Killing a human is human abuse. Killing an animal is murder.somerandomguy wrote:Killing an animal is animal abuse. Killing a human is murder.Kor wrote:Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
That's the pointQbopper wrote:you say this like this is not the position that literally everybody ever would haveColonicAcid wrote:im pro to any government wanting to enforce social values only if its social values that i think are good...
uh............Qbopper wrote:you say this like this is not the position that literally everybody ever would haveColonicAcid wrote:im pro to any government wanting to enforce social values only if its social values that i think are good...
his point is that the laws are wrong because they work on the basis that torturing a creature that can feel pain and can't talk about it isn't on the same level as torturing a creature that can feel pain and talk about itsomerandomguy wrote:The law begs to differ.Stickymayhem wrote:Killing a human is human abuse. Killing an animal is murder.somerandomguy wrote:Killing an animal is animal abuse. Killing a human is murder.Kor wrote:Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
Sure, but because of a mix of growth hormones and breeding chickens for example can't stand and get leg infections and other horrible stuff. it's not about killing them it's their entire life that they spend in painColonicAcid wrote:i dont think feeling pain is a good indicator of whether something should be legal or not legal.
theres lots of ways to kill something without it feeling pain.
fuck me just give anything enough chloroform or barbituates and they'll die in a minute without feeling shit.
Cows pigs and such exist only to be food for humans, it's not like they occupy a pivotal role in the ecosystem (maybe a negative role if you consider all the biodiversity destroyed to make room for pastures and so on)ColonicAcid wrote:Ecologically thats wrong.
Ethically its a grey area.
We're going to have to make a decision in a couple of decades time and its not going to be easy.
It's a powerful statement that satirizes the unnatural prevalence of anime avatars in these forums, not that I expected a reptile to understand such fine ironyDemonFiren wrote:your avatar makes me uncomfortable
No, his point is that the current animal agriculture industry is only so profitable because it externalizes all of it's costs to the taxpayer through subsidies, destruction of the local environment through pollutants resulting in dead crops, human local communities with heightened cancer/respiratory disease (No surprises that they're predominantly minorities), hundreds of fish kills, drought, deforestation and the global enviroment through emissions.Grazyn wrote:Cows pigs and such exist only to be food for humans, it's not like they occupy a pivotal role in the ecosystem (maybe a negative role if you consider all the biodiversity destroyed to make room for pastures and so on)ColonicAcid wrote:Ecologically thats wrong.
Ethically its a grey area.
We're going to have to make a decision in a couple of decades time and its not going to be easy.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
it is literally a coincidence. There is exactly as much evidence that cooked potatoes did the same thing. Meat doesn't magic your brain smarter we were already becoming successful and even if it was cooked meat it's irrelevant today. Whatever we are biologically is irrelevant to the discussion because we don't make ethical decisions based on biology. Violent urges don't justify violence, violent tastes don't justify eating food gained from violence.ColonicAcid wrote:i wish that would happen to but this is the real world where a near majority of people are meat eaters.
we are biologically omnivores. the cognitive revolution that humans undertook a few hundred of thousands of years ago was around the time that we discovered fire and started cooking meat. this is not a coincidence.
im sure in the future we will figure out an alternative to meat that tastes like meat and is basically meat on a microscopic level but it doesn't involve the wholesale degredation of animals.
and then in a cruel, ironic twist of fate that will be extinction of animals. we are trailblazing our way to synthetic meat to save animals and in the end it will just cause farms to be unviable economically.
whos going to keep pigs and cows as pets?
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
i donut think you understood the implications of what i said.Stickymayhem wrote:it is literally a coincidence. There is exactly as much evidence that cooked potatoes did the same thing. Meat doesn't magic your brain smarter we were already becoming successful and even if it was cooked meat it's irrelevant today. Whatever we are biologically is irrelevant to the discussion because we don't make ethical decisions based on biology. Violent urges don't justify violence, violent tastes don't justify eating food gained from violence.ColonicAcid wrote:i wish that would happen to but this is the real world where a near majority of people are meat eaters.
we are biologically omnivores. the cognitive revolution that humans undertook a few hundred of thousands of years ago was around the time that we discovered fire and started cooking meat. this is not a coincidence.
im sure in the future we will figure out an alternative to meat that tastes like meat and is basically meat on a microscopic level but it doesn't involve the wholesale degredation of animals.
and then in a cruel, ironic twist of fate that will be extinction of animals. we are trailblazing our way to synthetic meat to save animals and in the end it will just cause farms to be unviable economically.
whos going to keep pigs and cows as pets?
These farm animals probably won't go extinct due to sanctuaries, and even if they did, this isn't cruel. We made their bodies to be meat and egg factories. They don't need to exist. There is no net loss by them not existing, a non-existent cow can't wish to exist nor can it feel pain
oranges wrote:pork, the nondescript, commoner king, literally so stealth you could just your normal name in OOC and nobody would know, long may he reign as the secret commander
Deitus wrote:If your signature is scrollable it's too long and fucking obnoxious and you should feel bad
PKPenguin321 wrote:I've been had by yet another tg boondoggle
You can't murder an animal, they don't have rights.Kor wrote:Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
Why not?ShadowDimentio wrote:You can't murder an animal, they don't have rights.Kor wrote:Glad we agree that people should be veganShadowDimentio wrote:Nani the fuck? Of course I'm not opposed to the government enforcing societal norms, provided they're GOOD societal norms like "don't murder"Kor wrote:I still find it hard to believe you are categorically against governments or social pressure enforcing norms or rules in society though.
Because only people have rights. Animals only have rights if we let them have rights.Kor wrote:Why not?
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