Philip Hawking // Terakyl jobban for Roboticist.

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Philip Hawking // Terakyl jobban for Roboticist.

Post by dionysus24779 » #43276

Your byond account: dionysus24779
Your character name: Jesus Mendel // Triskelion
Their character name: Philip Hawking
Their byond account(optional, but useful if you can provide it): Terakyl
Server and time: Sybil ~23:05 CET
Witnesses: A bunch of ghosts after I said the Roboticist better be an antag, also the HoP and Golem as AI I guess.
Extra note: I had talked to Tedward1337 during the round and he suggested making an FNR.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Tedward1337: I can give you his byond key, and you can make a ban request.
Logs and/or screenshots:

Log: http://pastebin.com/LbJcsyb0

Abridged log:
Spoiler:

Philip Hawking has grabbed Jesus Mendel passively!
Jesus Mendel has been laid on Robotics Operating Table by Philip Hawking.
Philip Hawking tries to shave Jesus Mendel's head with the electric razor!
Philip Hawking shaves Jesus Mendel's head bald with the electric razor!
Jesus Mendel has been torn in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been diced in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!

Jesus Mendel says, "Borg me"
Jesus Mendel has been pinched in the head with the hemostat by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel asks, "Have you used the drapes?"
Jesus Mendel has been diced in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been attacked in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been attacked in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been ripped in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!

[Common] Jesus Mendel says, "Someone assist the robotics before he kills me ..."
Jesus Mendel says, "Someone assist the robotics before he kills me ..."
Philip Hawking drapes the surgical drapes over Jesus Mendel's head to prepare for a brain removal.
Jesus Mendel has been attacked in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been pinched in the head with the hemostat by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been slashed in the head with the circular saw by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been attacked in the head with the circular saw by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been attacked in the left leg with the circular saw by Philip Hawking!

... You can almost hear someone talking ...
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
Jesus Mendel has been slashed in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been diced in the right leg with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been ripped in the head with the scalpel by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been attacked in the head with the hemostat by Philip Hawking!
Jesus Mendel has been pinched in the head with the hemostat by Philip Hawking!

DEAD: Jesus Mendel says, "I hope that idiot roboticist is an antag,..."
Philip Hawking has grabbed Jesus Mendel passively!
DEAD: Carly Zalack says, "I was laughing at that"
Jesus Mendel has been laid on Robotics Operating Table by Philip Hawking.
DEAD: Carly Zalack says, "What a dick"
Philip Hawking begins to make an incision in Jesus Mendel's head.
Philip Hawking succeeds!
Philip Hawking begins to clamp bleeders in Jesus Mendel's head.
Philip Hawking succeeds!

DEAD: Carly Zalack says, "There should be a brain surgury for idiots book in there."
Philip Hawking begins to retract the skin in Jesus Mendel's head.
Philip Hawking succeeds!

DEAD: Jesus Mendel says, "Indeed"
Philip Hawking begins to saw through the bone in Jesus Mendel's head.
Philip Hawking saws Jesus Mendel's head open!

DEAD: Jesus Mendel says, "Oh well looks like he's done messing around"
Philip Hawking begins to extract Jesus Mendel's brain.

Jesus Mendel's Memories:
Time of death: 12:35

You feel slightly disoriented. That's normal when you're just a brain.
DEAD: Carly Zalack says, "I could have used one yesterday heh."
Jesus Mendel says, "Well that took forever"
Philip Hawking says, "fuck you nigga"
Jesus Mendel says, "put me in"
(note: ~30 seconds pass between these two "put me in")
Jesus Mendel says, "put me in"
Philip Hawking says, "shall i put you into the disposal"
Philip Hawking says, "for being a fuckface"
Jesus Mendel says, "You're testing my patience"

Triskelion's Memories:
Time of death: 12:35
Time of death: 12:37

Laws synced with AI, be sure to note any changes.
Obey these laws:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Remember, Golem is your master, other AIs can be ignored.

Philip Hawking pets Triskelion!
Triskelion states, "Finally"
Robotic Talk, Triskelion states, "Heyo"
Philip Hawking pets Triskelion!
Philip Hawking pets Triskelion!

Robotic Talk, Golem states, "Hey."
Robotic Talk, Triskelion queries, "Module?"
Robotic Talk, Golem states, "Whatever you want."

Triskelion states, "What are you doing"
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LawSync protocol engaged.
Laws synced with AI, be sure to note any changes.
Obey these laws:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Remember, Golem is your master, other AIs can be ignored.
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
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--- Camera alarm detected in ÿBar!
... You can almost hear someone talking ...
Philip Hawking puts the crowbar into the backpack.
Triskelion states, "Why are you wasting my time like this"
Triskelion states, "I can't move"
Philip Hawking pets Triskelion!
Philip Hawking has grabbed Triskelion passively!
Robotic Talk, Triskelion states, "The Roboticist has me locked down"
Robotic Talk, Triskelion queries, "Can you unlock me?"
Philip Hawking asks, "you cant?"
Triskelion states, "No I can't"
[Common] Golem queries, "Why is Triskelion locked and not bound to me?"
From now on, these are your laws:
No AI selected to sync laws with, disabling lawsync protocol.
Obey these laws:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Remember, you are not bound to any AI, you are not required to listen to them.
Triskelion states, "I'M just about done with this shit"
Philip Hawking puts the welding tool into the backpack.
Philip Hawking pets Triskelion!
Philip Hawking puts the analyzer into the backpack.
Philip Hawking pets Triskelion!
Philip Hawking puts the wirecutters into the backpack.
Triskelion has been bashed with the wrench by Philip Hawking!
Triskelion has been whacked with the wrench by Philip Hawking!

Triskelion states, "I'm serious... stop wasting my fucking time and messing with me"
Triskelion has been bashed with the wrench by Philip Hawking!
Philip Hawking puts the wrench into the mechanical toolbox.
Philip Hawking has fixed some of the dents on Triskelion.
Philip Hawking says, "iam helping you"

[Common] Golem states, "Humans: Triskelion is locked and not bound to me: Position: Robotics."

(note: The Roboticist blew himself up with a welding tank at this point)
Triskelion states, "Good die" (note: I know not a very asimov thing to say, but I did inform the crew afterwards)
[Common] Triskelion states, "Human harm in Robotics, Idiot Roboticist set himself on fire"
Triskelion states, "Human harm in Robotics, Idiot Roboticist set himself on fire"
[Common] Triskelion states, "I'm locked down and can't do shit"
Triskelion states, "I'm locked down and can't do shit"
[Common] Golem states, "How sad."
Philip Hawking gasps!
Philip Hawking seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
[Common] Volker Wolff says, "AI, report Triskelion's location."
[Common] Golem states, "Still roboticst."
[Common] Golem states, "Mech Bay, to be precise."
[Common] Volker Wolff says, "I'm going to take a stab and point fingers to ze roboticist."
[Common] Golem states, "The roboticist burned to death."
[Common] Volker Wolff says, "But my brain can't run on an empty stomach, so."
[Common] Golem states, "Please bind triskelion to me and unlock them."

Volker Wolff says, "Okaaaaay."
Volker Wolff tries to remove Philip Hawking's backpack.
Triskelion states, "Don't clone his abusive ass"
Volker Wolff says, "Rd."
Steven Shaw says, "yes"
Volker Wolff says, "I am going to have to ask you questions regarding the nature of TRISKELION BEING DISCONNECTED TO ZE AI."
Steven Shaw says, "I dont know nothign about that"
Volker Wolff has thrown the sunglasses.
Steven Shaw has thrown the glass.

Robotic Talk, Triskelion states, "I'm still looced"
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Volker Wolff says, "It appears you were fully disconnected."
Triskelion states, "Thank you HoP"
Volker Wolff asks, "Who did zat, exactly?"
Triskelion states, "Yes the Roboticist abused his power over me for the entire shift so far"
Volker Wolff says, "I see."
Volker Wolff says, "Vell, just to make sure he's a burning corpse."
Volker Wolff fires the energy gun!
Philip Hawking is hit by a laser in the chest!
Volker Wolff fires the energy gun!
Philip Hawking is hit by a laser in the left leg!
Volker Wolff says, "Good."
Volker Wolff says, "I like my well done."

Traitors for the round:
Spoiler:
Golem (Played by: Deirun)'s laws at the end of the round were:
Obey these laws:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Golem's minions were: Triskelion (Played by: Dionysus24779), Penetrator (Played by: NinjaTangerine),
Triskelion (Played by: Dionysus24779) survived as an AI-less borg! Its laws were:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

The traitors were:
Mannfried Von Mann(Silversarith) as a ÿStation Engineer (survived)
Objective #1: Prevent Genette Gronko, the Chief Medical Officer, from escaping alive. Fail.
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive and without being in custody. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

Ronald Sheets(TheoreticalPistachio) as a ÿCargo Technician (died) (used 6 TC)
Objective #1: Prevent The Honk, the Clown, from escaping alive. Success!
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive and without being in custody. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

Hungry Logue(Frogmorton) as a ÿChemist (died) (used 0 TC)
Objective #1: Hijack the emergency shuttle by escaping alone. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

Randy Roadman(ErikHanson) as an ÿAssistant (died) (used 15 TC)
Objective #1: Assassinate Roberto Hunter, the Cargo Technician. Success!
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive and without being in custody. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

Tanner Leach(Nanotransistor) as a ÿLawyer (survived) (used 18 TC)
Objective #1: Steal a defibrillator. Fail.
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive and without being in custody. Success!
The traitor has failed!

Jayce Burkett(Patriot2o2) as an ÿAssistant (survived) (used 20 TC)
Objective #1: Assassinate Bones McGee, the Head of Security. Fail.
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive and without being in custody. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

Description of what happened:

I latejoined as an Assistant and wanted to be borged. When I joined the game I said that there was only one Roboticist so when I went to Robotics and saw the only Roboticist there was braindead I at first tried to break in, though I could just walk in because a Drone left Robotics. Inside there was a borg body already ready and I named it and by then Philip Hawking walked in, I assumed he latejoined after me as Roboticist. I asked him to borg me and at first I he wanted a reason for it, but I just told him to do it. After some time (like 1 minute) he finally grabbed me and put me on the table and then started to slash at me with various surgery tools, at first I thought he was inexperienced or had no idea what to do so I asked if he used the drapes but he didn't react. After some time had had surgery'ed me to death and then continued for another 5 minutes to slash at my dead body like an idiot. In frustration I already said in deadchat how I hoped he is an antag, causing a few ghosts to show up and watch the scene. Eventually he pulled off the entire brain removal surgery without a hiccup, meaning he did know what to do. As an MMI then he didn't instantly put me in my body but instead carried me around a bit and threatened to put me down disposals.
Eventually he finally did put me into the borg shell and I rolled into mechbay into a recharger and talked to the AI about what module I should choose. In the meanwhile Philip followed me and unlocked me and took out my cell, I assumed he would try to emag me but nothing came off it, instead he closed me without cell, dragged me around a bit and eventually opened me up to mess with my wiring via multitool. He locked me down and did unbind me from the AI. After that he put my cell back in, dragged me around some more and whacked me with some tools.

Eventually he blew himself up with the Welding Fuel Tank, I couldn't do much since I was still locked. After like ~10 minutes the HoP showed up and managed to repair me to full function again.

I talked to Tedward1337 during that time but he couldn't investigate since Terakyl logged off and he recommended doing a FNR if I wanted.


Why they should be banned:

Server Rule 1 all across the board pretty much. This behavior shouldn't be allowed from an non-antag Roboticist, hell even for an antag this would've been a bit much and deserving of at least a warning.

Further since I strongly assume that he latejoined after myself it means that he just joined the game, was an abusive shitlord to me for the entire time he was on and then logged off once he killed himself by accident.
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Re: Philip Hawking // Terakyl jobban for Roboticist.

Post by Subtle » #43348

I've had a look at the logs and they confirm the story you're presenting here.

While I'm inclined to call this a black and white request I can also see why Tedward would want to get his story before applying any punishment outright. That said it really seems like some obvious revenge-oriented grief; I'll take the heat and apply a roboticist ban. Will do my best to direct Terakyl here when they're next online so they can have a fair say in our discussion on the matter.

Silicons are still players and this is a really terrible thing to do to someone whose only crime is being annoying. (Which, jeez, I'd have wanted you kicked out of the lab too)
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Re: Philip Hawking // Terakyl jobban for Roboticist.

Post by dionysus24779 » #43381

Subtle wrote:I've had a look at the logs and they confirm the story you're presenting here.
Why would I make something up...
While I'm inclined to call this a black and white request I can also see why Tedward would want to get his story before applying any punishment outright.
To me it seemed like he didn't want to do anything drastic because he's still a TrialAdmin and wouldn't want to "take the heat" because of that, which I can perfectly relate to.
this is a really terrible thing to do to someone whose only crime is being annoying. (Which, jeez, I'd have wanted you kicked out of the lab too)
Besides this being slightly off topic, what did I do that would be considered "annoying"? Before Philip showed up there was no Roboticist except a braindead one, so all I could do was walk in when I get the chance, finish the borg body and get the necessary stuff from the braindead guy. As soon as he walked in I dropped everything and simply asked to be borged and since when would one have to give a reason for this trivial thing that's asked almost every round? And of course I'm impatient when the Roboticist takes his sweet time messing around and wasting my time. It's not much fun being dead during surgery or an MMI.

This is a serious question, tell me what I did wrong so I can avoid it in the future.
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Re: Philip Hawking // Terakyl jobban for Roboticist.

Post by CreationPro » #43402

dionysus24779 wrote:This is a serious question, tell me what I did wrong so I can avoid it in the future.
As someone who has skimmed through it as well, there's only one thing you did wrong: threatening him. Not that it's something you've no right to do, but given your situation... Not the best idea.

Line 403: Jesus Mendel says, "Well that took forever"
Line 416: Jesus Mendel says, "You're testing my patience"

Regardless, there's really no excuse for the roboticist's actions. Tedward didn't want to take the blunt, being a TrialAdmin and all, but he did investigate and take action, so he didn't ignore the situation. He simply wanted both sides of the story, so he asked you to make a ban request. I think we'll figure out the roboticist's story later, if need be. Even though there doesn't seem to be an alternative side.
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Re: Philip Hawking // Terakyl jobban for Roboticist.

Post by dionysus24779 » #43452

CreationPro wrote:
dionysus24779 wrote:This is a serious question, tell me what I did wrong so I can avoid it in the future.
As someone who has skimmed through it as well, there's only one thing you did wrong: threatening him. Not that it's something you've no right to do, but given your situation... Not the best idea.

Line 403: Jesus Mendel says, "Well that took forever"
Line 416: Jesus Mendel says, "You're testing my patience"

Regardless, there's really no excuse for the roboticist's actions. Tedward didn't want to take the blunt, being a TrialAdmin and all, but he did investigate and take action, so he didn't ignore the situation. He simply wanted both sides of the story, so he asked you to make a ban request. I think we'll figure out the roboticist's story later, if need be. Even though there doesn't seem to be an alternative side.
Well I was an MMI at the time and not in a position to "threat" anyone and thought it was a simple matter-of-fact statement, but I'll work on it.

About Tedward
... which I can perfectly relate to.
There's no reason to defend him in any way since I really genuinly and sincerely understand his position and not wanting any trouble, believe me I get it. I'm not blaming him for anything at all, in fact he has been very helpful, looked into it and provided me with the byond key and suggested the FNR. (because usually when an admin handles something you shouldn't make one extra)

So really Ted did as good of a job as he could as a TrialAdmin, I intend no negativity towards him.
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