Discord ban appeal
- Shezza
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Discord ban appeal
Discord ID and (if not the same) your commonly used names: Shezza
Banning admin (if known): Rustledjimm
Time ban was placed (approximate): 07/09/18
Your side of the story: I pinged the admins once
Why you think you should be unbanned: it was retarded of me
Banning admin (if known): Rustledjimm
Time ban was placed (approximate): 07/09/18
Your side of the story: I pinged the admins once
Why you think you should be unbanned: it was retarded of me
- Nervere
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Re: Discord ban appeal
This was a stupid ban.
Qbopper did the exact same thing Shezza did - no one banned him. I kicked Qbopper for this, and then admins gave him his roles back anyway.
Why are we giving different punishments for different players, even when these role pings happened around the same time?
Why weren't a bunch of others banned for the ping spam happening before?
Most of all, why would Rustledjimm ban someone for the same stupid shit he does all the time?: https://imgur.com/a/SuIvh5K
Qbopper did the exact same thing Shezza did - no one banned him. I kicked Qbopper for this, and then admins gave him his roles back anyway.
Why are we giving different punishments for different players, even when these role pings happened around the same time?
Why weren't a bunch of others banned for the ping spam happening before?
Most of all, why would Rustledjimm ban someone for the same stupid shit he does all the time?: https://imgur.com/a/SuIvh5K
- BeeSting12
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Because you can suppress @everyone but not @Trial Admin?
Trial Admin is a role used for serious issues.
Trial Admin is a role used for serious issues.
- Nervere
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Re: Discord ban appeal
You can't blame players for doing a meme @Trial Admin ping when one of the headmins had just showed it was perfectly fine with his worthless @everyone ping.
Everyone who got banned for this should've been unbanned.
This was valid by our current escalation policy, too:
(Seriously, the amount of worthless pings that RustledJimm been doing has become a problem and just pisses everyone off whenever it happens.)
Everyone who got banned for this should've been unbanned.
This was valid by our current escalation policy, too:
If you think it's unfair or excessive the playerbase pinged @Trial Admins, consider not pinging @everyone next round.Escalation Policy wrote:You may instigate conflict with another player within reason (you cant completley destroy their department, kill them unprovoked, or otherwise take them out of the round for long periods of time) but they are entitled to respond with violence. If you think its unfair or excessive they killed you for taking their ID, consider not stealing next round.
(Seriously, the amount of worthless pings that RustledJimm been doing has become a problem and just pisses everyone off whenever it happens.)
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Re: Discord ban appeal
I try not to get my head wrapped around small stuff like this unless it becomes a problem. Nervere is probably right that we shouldn't be kicking people for worthless pings when we basically do the same.
Though, I know Shezza has been kicked for it before.
This is more that Jimm shouldn't @everyone-ing so that we can actually have consequences for shezza @trial admin-ing.
Though, it may be deeper than that. Anyways, I don't see any reason for this ban to stick. @owegno should weigh in since it's a headmin ban.
Though, I know Shezza has been kicked for it before.
This is more that Jimm shouldn't @everyone-ing so that we can actually have consequences for shezza @trial admin-ing.
Though, it may be deeper than that. Anyways, I don't see any reason for this ban to stick. @owegno should weigh in since it's a headmin ban.
- Rustledjimm
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Re: Discord ban appeal
@everyone can be muted and ignored.
role pings cannot be muted and ignored and are supposed to be used for informing admins of something important.
Normally I would warn and kick someone for abusing a role ping. This happened. Then several others saw what happened to that person and decided the smart thing to do was to repeat what they did. So for their stupidity they received bans.
role pings cannot be muted and ignored and are supposed to be used for informing admins of something important.
Normally I would warn and kick someone for abusing a role ping. This happened. Then several others saw what happened to that person and decided the smart thing to do was to repeat what they did. So for their stupidity they received bans.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.
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- iksyp
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Re: Discord ban appeal
consider the following:
there's actually 0 reasons to be able to ping all admins
e: i should elaborate
@ Key Holder the server's down
@ Maintainer hey is this PR okay?
@ Head Admin Hey I'd like to know more specifically about x policy change
@ Trial Admin I need an admin on bagil
replace that trialmin ping with
adminhelp "hey chad thundercock is murdering everyone on bagil and he's security can we get an admin???"
there's actually 0 reasons to be able to ping all admins
e: i should elaborate
@ Key Holder the server's down
@ Maintainer hey is this PR okay?
@ Head Admin Hey I'd like to know more specifically about x policy change
@ Trial Admin I need an admin on bagil
replace that trialmin ping with
adminhelp "hey chad thundercock is murdering everyone on bagil and he's security can we get an admin???"
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- Qbmax32
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Rustledjimm wrote:
role pings cannot be muted and ignored and are supposed to be used for informing admins of something important.
@Trial Admin I hope everyone is having a great day
@Trial Admin Good morning everyone!
@Trial Admin hiiiiiiii!
- iksyp
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- BeeSting12
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Are you seriously applying escalation policy for the game to fucking discord?Nervere wrote:You can't blame players for doing a meme @Trial Admin ping when one of the headmins had just showed it was perfectly fine with his worthless @everyone ping.
Everyone who got banned for this should've been unbanned.
This was valid by our current escalation policy, too:If you think it's unfair or excessive the playerbase pinged @Trial Admins, consider not pinging @everyone next round.Escalation Policy wrote:You may instigate conflict with another player within reason (you cant completley destroy their department, kill them unprovoked, or otherwise take them out of the round for long periods of time) but they are entitled to respond with violence. If you think its unfair or excessive they killed you for taking their ID, consider not stealing next round.
(Seriously, the amount of worthless pings that RustledJimm been doing has become a problem and just pisses everyone off whenever it happens.)
- Shezza
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Re: Discord ban appeal
If @everyone pings are okay because you can supress the pings, then @trial admin is okay because you can block the person.
/s
Both are obviously not okay. And are annoyances.
However annoying the playerbase as a admin brings no consequences as opposed to annoying admins which leaves you with a ban.
/s
Both are obviously not okay. And are annoyances.
However annoying the playerbase as a admin brings no consequences as opposed to annoying admins which leaves you with a ban.
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- obscolene
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Except I want to be notified of important /tg/ happenings without being uselessly pinged. Players shouldn't have to disable their ability to be notified of announcements in the discord just so they won't get needlessly pinged by apes with a constant need for attention.Rustledjimm wrote:@everyone can be muted and ignored.
- Qbmax32
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Re: Discord ban appeal
obscolene wrote:Except I want to be notified of important /tg/ happenings without being uselessly pinged. Players shouldn't have to disable their ability to be notified of announcements in the discord just so they won't get needlessly pinged by apes with a constant need for attention.Rustledjimm wrote:@everyone can be muted and ignored.
Stop being smart god damn it
- Nervere
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Re: Discord ban appeal
I don't know how it could have been any more obvious that was a joke.BeeSting12 wrote:Are you seriously applying escalation policy for the game to fucking discord?
- wubli
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Absolutely right, but also, stop sending Trial Admin/Game Admin pings as a joke. While only a few people can @everyone, everyone can ping admins, and the more they meme the ping, the more admins are going to ignore it when people actually need them.obscolene wrote:Players shouldn't have to disable their ability to be notified of announcements in the discord just so they won't get needlessly pinged by apes with a constant need for attention.
Basically, everyone is in the wrong and just stop pinging for jokes. The first one was funny, the following thirty ones weren't.
- lntigracy
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Re: Discord ban appeal
The problem is the first one getting away with it wlhile everyone else involved was punished severely.
Double standards are retarded.Nervere wrote: Most of all, why would Rustledjimm ban someone for the same stupid shit he does all the time?: https://imgur.com/a/SuIvh5K
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- iksyp
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Re: Discord ban appeal
the @everyone ping was completely unrelated to the @Trial Admin pingslntigracy wrote:The problem is the first one getting away with it for being an admin while everyone else involved was punished severely
- Qbmax32
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Re: Discord ban appeal
iksyp wrote:the @everyone ping was completely unrelated to the @Trial Admin pingslntigracy wrote:The problem is the first one getting away with it for being an admin while everyone else involved was punished severely
I don’t understand how this means anything. Jimm banned a player from the discord for doing something he had did less then an hour before.
- iksyp
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Re: Discord ban appeal
*banned 3Qbmax32 wrote:iksyp wrote:the @everyone ping was completely unrelated to the @Trial Admin pingslntigracy wrote:The problem is the first one getting away with it for being an admin while everyone else involved was punished severely
I don’t understand how this means anything. Jimm banned a player from the discord for doing something he had did less then an hour before.
also i feel like some people might misconstrue this as "jimm gets mad that players did the same thing he did" and not what it actually was which is "3 people did this to fuck with admins and jimm banned them"
- Shezza
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Sorry for getting in the way of your admin complaint but can i get unbanned?
- lntigracy
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Re: Discord ban appeal
It's not miscontruing it, it's exactly what he does regularly just aimed at a different crowd of people.iksyp wrote:*banned 3Qbmax32 wrote:iksyp wrote:the @everyone ping was completely unrelated to the @Trial Admin pingslntigracy wrote:The problem is the first one getting away with it for being an admin while everyone else involved was punished severely
I don’t understand how this means anything. Jimm banned a player from the discord for doing something he had did less then an hour before.
also i feel like some people might misconstrue this as "jimm gets mad that players did the same thing he did" and not what it actually was which is "3 people did this to fuck with admins and jimm banned them"
If it's okay to annoy everyone on the server at once with meme pings, then it should be fine to do it back to admins.
If pinging everyone with memes isn't a problem, then provide everyone on the server with access to @everyone.
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Re: Discord ban appeal
What does RustledJimms conduct have to do with shezza being banned/unbanned?
Take that to admincomplaints (pm MSO your plight because it's not ingame) or NTR hut but this is getting derailed.
Take that to admincomplaints (pm MSO your plight because it's not ingame) or NTR hut but this is getting derailed.
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- Rustledjimm
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Re: Discord ban appeal
This is still denied considering the person in question is now also permanently banned on the server.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.
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- Shezza
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Since when ingame bans are paired with discord bans?
Afaik this was never a thing.
Afaik this was never a thing.
- Rustledjimm
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Re: Discord ban appeal
There is no precedent for discord bans.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.
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- Rustledjimm
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Re: Discord ban appeal
They can post on here if they want you unbanned. We don't handle appeals on discord.
Fact is you say everytime "I was dumb and promise I won't do it again" and you find something dumb to get banned over. Why should I have to keep banning you?
Fact is you say everytime "I was dumb and promise I won't do it again" and you find something dumb to get banned over. Why should I have to keep banning you?
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.
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- Shezza
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Re: Discord ban appeal
Owegno was asked about the ban and already answered to you guys on discord as far as I know. I bet there is no problem for him to post in this thread and repeat his stance.Rustledjimm wrote:They can post on here if they want you unbanned. We don't handle appeals on discord.
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CitrusGender wrote:I try not to get my head wrapped around small stuff like this unless it becomes a problem. Nervere is probably right that we shouldn't be kicking people for worthless pings when we basically do the same.
Though, I know Shezza has been kicked for it before.
This is more that Jimm shouldn't @everyone-ing so that we can actually have consequences for shezza @trial admin-ing.
Though, it may be deeper than that. Anyways, I don't see any reason for this ban to stick. @owegno should weigh in since it's a headmin ban.
If I was a massive shitter on the discord this would be denied from the start by you or other headmins, It wasn't. I don't understand the previous 180* on the ban.Rustledjimm wrote:Fact is you say everytime "I was dumb and promise I won't do it again" and you find something dumb to get banned over. Why should I have to keep banning you?
Last time I learned my lesson, I'm only human, I fuck up, I learn from it. I don't do it again.
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Re: Discord ban appeal
I'll just post here for posterity sake, but I've changed my mind since your ingame ban. You can stay gone honestly.
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Re: Discord ban appeal
mirroring bans across community locations is bad form because it lets admins remove people and also prevent them from protesting or drawing attention to it, the discord is essentially replacing the forum and should follow the same guidelines.
These bans should be considered separately and if you're not unbiased enough to do that you should recuse yourself.
These bans should be considered separately and if you're not unbiased enough to do that you should recuse yourself.
- Rustledjimm
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Re: Discord ban appeal
I denied this appeal before the ingame ban anyway. They clearly can't learn.
A second headmin has now also posted denying it so this is resolved.
A second headmin has now also posted denying it so this is resolved.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.
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