XSI wrote:Pretty much all nationalists shit on self-interest in politicians specifically because they put their self-interest above the people of the country
That's how globalism happens, the interests of themselves and their international donors above the interests of the people
no, no, no
first, your definition of globalism as "bad" is a bit too narrow, it's just one approach to handing political problems in general: nationalism means "by ourselves" (and has the connotation of WE'RE THE GREATEST EVER WOO! because of ideologised, rather than political, nationalism), globalism means "together" (and has the connotation of sucking corporate cock because of corporate, rather than political, globalism)
second, the negative meaning of globalism is entrenched because the economy globalised first - it is results-driven and thus mostly free of ideological restraints: if we expand our business, we get more of what we want (historically money, these days data)
then individual nation-states had to ask themselves how to deal with this phenomenon, a question largely ignored in the neoliberal frenzy following the end of the Cold War, letting the multinationals entrench even deeper
one possible solution was to use already existing supranational political structures such as the EU - surely a market of 500 million consumers acting as one is more powerful than the sum of its parts, right? (right...in theory)
so when it comes to handling an already irreversibly globalised economy with the aid of political entities that are only now beginning to properly globalise politicians get four choices:
pretend to be nationalist but leech off international agencies, both government and corporate (cough, cough, Farage and consorts, cough)
pretend to be globalist but only so you can blame all your failures on those aforementioned supranational political entities while also still leeching (just about everyone right now, which is why even I don't like the EU in its current form: just enough power to be scapegoated and further erode the trust placed in it, not enough to actually solve problems)
actually be nationalist and try to reverse all globalism within your borders (then watch your economy fall apart and your diplomatic influence dwindle - or worse, end up dependent on a single foreign economic/diplomatic tie which has no reason not to ruthlessly exploit you)
actually be globalist and band together to tell giants like The Google to fuck off (and then get stabbed in the back by the first two categories unless your name is Vestager)
tl;dr: the problem is once again the rampant (and pragmatic) dishonesty of those who seek power at all costs and have no problem engaging in doublethink
sadly one cannot actually force them to stop riding the fence and either cut their ties and commit to nationalism, or reinforce them and commit to internationalism
come to think about it, my philosophical problem with nationalism is that the interests of the people of a specific country are just self-interest extended to an arbitrary group, no different from corporate leadership only acting in the interest of their shareholders
it's kind of nonsensical to hate big business as a nationalist, the largest of them have effectively transcended the idea of mutual benefit and become their own independent political entities that mostly don't give a fuck about foreigners