I don't have time to clean up so much shitcode sadly.
Revert button
Revert button doesn't work after a bunch of changes and new mergers you chumbis
You could revert each change individually. Granted if people made non-atomic commits, then you're reverting unrelated stuff. Either way it's not super trivially easy, but hey, nothing ever is, right?
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you guys act as if it's impossible to config hygiene. anyways the PR I was working on is almost done but I havn't had much time home yet due to uni so I gotta work on it for a bit more
The real issue from my perspective is, Hygiene and Moodlets would be acceptable on a server like paradise or Aurora. But not here. So, I'm honestly just wondering if Qustinnus knows which server he's coding for
And even better, what are his reasons for coding these things
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
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BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
Grazyn wrote:the ship has sailed, it's almost impossible to remove a feature after a bunch of other stuff dependent on it has been added
It can get awfully messy
Grazyn wrote:It will never become a config option because oranges doesn't like config options
Rightfully so, config locking just means the server turns it off and 2 years from now someone realizes that dirtiness locks the server up if you turn it on. If you want it gone, it needs to be really, really gone. If some downstream wants it back they can just revert the removal.
I code for the code project and moderate the code sections of the forums.
Grazyn wrote:the ship has sailed, it's almost impossible to remove a feature after a bunch of other stuff dependent on it has been added
It can get awfully messy
Grazyn wrote:It will never become a config option because oranges doesn't like config options
Rightfully so, config locking just means the server turns it off and 2 years from now someone realizes that dirtiness locks the server up if you turn it on. If you want it gone, it needs to be really, really gone. If some downstream wants it back they can just revert the removal.
Config locks also let idiots who don't know how game design work make game design changes, too.
Grazyn wrote:the ship has sailed, it's almost impossible to remove a feature after a bunch of other stuff dependent on it has been added
It can get awfully messy
Grazyn wrote:It will never become a config option because oranges doesn't like config options
Rightfully so, config locking just means the server turns it off and 2 years from now someone realizes that dirtiness locks the server up if you turn it on. If you want it gone, it needs to be really, really gone. If some downstream wants it back they can just revert the removal.
It's funny how I know that and I'm not even a coder, which makes me think qustinnus is just messing with us when he pretends hygiene can be configed out
Honestly I've not had any problems with hygiene since the latest update, it just forces you to not walk around covered in blood (which ruins my epic miner character)
I don't have a problem with hygiene as it currently stands. I can spend all shift with bloody shoes and maybe have to shower a hour into the round, but if you get blood on your body it doesn't take too long before the stench comes. It means messy jobs like Miner/Cook might want to bathe more often while regular crew members just bathe as the situation demands. I'm kind of indifferent about it as a feature. I don't think it deserves the hate it gets in it's current state but I won't feel too bad if you decided to ditch it. I like people using showers and moving around a bit more I guess and more mechanics involving miasma are kind of neat. I'm happy enough to give it a shot like moodlets.
Currently attacking in melee drastically drains your hygiene for every hit so any kind of fighting is more or less guaranteed to get you dirty very quickly
I'd either remove or greatly reduce it and increase the drain from having bloody clothes (if necessary) so that the drain mostly comes from neglecting to get rid of bloody clothes instead of instantly getting dirty just from being caught in a fight
I play on Manuel as Swanni, the brain-damaged moth.
Be nice to each other.
It keeps calling me a dumbass whenever I don't take off all of my clothes in the shower. Like wtf, I'm making myself vulnerable and I'm also getting bad moodlets?
Very painful.
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
There was a PR by Qustinnus to remove the debuff but I guess it didn't take.
I understand not getting mood buffs or removing the stank overlay for clothed showering, but there's still other reasons to use the safety showers and the debuff is terrible. It's even worse now because it's not clear what counts as clothing (showering with shoes is fine but not welding helmets ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).
The mood system is only immersive when it links with the player. When you lose an arm, you are upset because it's harder to work with just one arm, and the debuff reflects that. When you constantly slip, you're upset with the constant interruptions (or worse) and the mood debuff reflects that too. But when you use a shower to put out a fire, you're generally happy, or at least a bit relieved for having that particular issue gone, and the debuff that you feel stupid, like you should have kept burning is a disconnect.
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OrdoM/(Viktor Bergmannsen) (ghost) "Also Douglas, you're becoming the Lexia Black of Robotics"
what do we do when the greyshit killed Ian though Oranges
WHAT DO WE DO
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
Killing anyone covered in Ian's blood should give a mood buff tbqh
Douglas Bickerson / Adaptive Manipulator / Digital Clockwork
OrdoM/(Viktor Bergmannsen) (ghost) "Also Douglas, you're becoming the Lexia Black of Robotics"
When we're playing a space themed autism simulator that now has stink fetish content, and you can cop a ban for killing a cat rolling around naked in public rambling about its stink fetish, do we ever not lose?
When we're playing a space themed autism simulator that now has stink fetish content, and you can cop a ban for killing a cat rolling around naked in public rambling about its stink fetish, do we ever not lose?
i dunno but you should RDM them every time you see them
When we're playing a space themed autism simulator that now has stink fetish content, and you can cop a ban for killing a cat rolling around naked in public rambling about its stink fetish, do we ever not lose?
i dunno but you should RDM them every time you see them
When we're playing a space themed autism simulator that now has stink fetish content, and you can cop a ban for killing a cat rolling around naked in public rambling about its stink fetish, do we ever not lose?
i dunno but you should RDM them every time you see them
When we're playing a space themed autism simulator that now has stink fetish content, and you can cop a ban for killing a cat rolling around naked in public rambling about its stink fetish, do we ever not lose?
i dunno but you should RDM them every time you see them
How to get weekbanned for metagrudging 101
As AI I door shock any cat who says shit like "helpies" or "hewo" or any other really gay and annoying cat shit. Does that count?
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Farquaar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:43 pm
Imagine my grandparents surviving nazi concentration camps only for their grandson to be accused of nazism for criticizing a citrus fruit on the internet.
Honestly, I think the real problem with Hygiene is that like mood, it literally used code to try and enforce new rules upon players.
If you want people to worry about dirty clothes, have the headmins make space-law enforced again. Now shitcurity is looking for any suspicious behavior like that.
Leave the rules to the rules, please. That's how it's been done everywhere else.
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
help nerbere orange man is seizing the means of rulemaking
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?