Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
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Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
If the clown doesn't wear one part of his clown gear(His shoes/mask I think?) He gets an increasingly bad moodlet: "I am a disgrace to comedy everywhere!". Why? He has a wardrobe full of costumes that he can't use without steadily going insane. Mime, meanwhile, gets all the leeway to play dressup. Das dumb.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
why not just remove moodlets in general for making me gain the bad feelings
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
Agreed haha.Shadowflame909 wrote:why not just remove moodlets in general for making me gain the bad feelings
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
>taking off your shoes
You deserve everything that comes to you TBH. Maybe the masks should be added under the moodie but you shouldn't be demasking yourself as clown or mime
You deserve everything that comes to you TBH. Maybe the masks should be added under the moodie but you shouldn't be demasking yourself as clown or mime
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
What about sexy mime/clown mask? Do they count or should we remove them?Yakumo_Chen wrote:You deserve everything that comes to you TBH. Maybe the masks should be added under the moodie but you shouldn't be demasking yourself as clown or mime
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
Then why have any masks/shoes in the vending machine? As long as they're wearing costume clothes, they should be fine. How are we supposed to have epic owl/griffon rounds if the owl gets depressed because he's wearing his costume.Yakumo_Chen wrote:>taking off your shoes
You deserve everything that comes to you TBH. Maybe the masks should be added under the moodie but you shouldn't be demasking yourself as clown or mime
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
never got the "clowns HAVE TO wear shooooos" circlejerk. like yeah it's easily a sign of being more robust or whatever, but it's not fucking required
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
It because wearing the shoes is a significant gimp, and if you take them off you're probably either a mega powergamer or up to some shady shit.PKPenguin321 wrote:never got the "clowns HAVE TO wear shooooos" circlejerk. like yeah it's easily a sign of being more robust or whatever, but it's not fucking required
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
or you just want to wear a pirate costume and be a pirate?actioninja wrote:It because wearing the shoes is a significant gimp, and if you take them off you're probably either a mega powergamer or up to some shady shit.PKPenguin321 wrote:never got the "clowns HAVE TO wear shooooos" circlejerk. like yeah it's easily a sign of being more robust or whatever, but it's not fucking required
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
That's because you lack any cultural identity of your own.PKPenguin321 wrote:never got the "clowns HAVE TO wear shooooos" circlejerk
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
lol imagine being the type of clown to not wear your shoes.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
just make the things in the costume wardrobe count for clowning
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
*takes off shoes as clown*Lumbermancer wrote:That's because you lack any cultural identity of your own.PKPenguin321 wrote:never got the "clowns HAVE TO wear shooooos" circlejerk
this kills the shoefag
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
*People suddenly became aware of the problems with moodlets*
Ree forcing an action all round down someones throat limits creativity aaaa
Ree forcing an action all round down someones throat limits creativity aaaa
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
remove the mood debuff, make the clown valid though. fuck shoeless clowns, on par with talking mime imo. why play the role at that point?
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
You forgot to read the character sheet.Shadowflame909 wrote:*People suddenly became aware of the problems with moodlets*
Ree forcing an action all round down someones throat limits creativity aaaa
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
Because you want to be a creative funnyman instead of one that's just some shitter in a clown costume who's obnoxious and dabs?imsxz wrote:remove the mood debuff, make the clown valid though. fuck shoeless clowns, on par with talking mime imo. why play the role at that point?
If the whole reason you play the clown is for the shoes, maybe you should just roll assistant and order a costume crate.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
*takes off clown shoes*imsxz wrote:remove the mood debuff, make the clown valid though. fuck shoeless clowns, on par with talking mime imo. why play the role at that point?
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
First they came for engineers jumpsuit - and I didn't speak out because I was not an engineer,
Then they came for clowns shoes - and I didn't speak out because I was not a clown,
Then they came for security uniforms, again, and there was no one left to speak for me.
Then they came for clowns shoes - and I didn't speak out because I was not a clown,
Then they came for security uniforms, again, and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
I fucking hate the mime talking shit, since mimes just use pda to talk which is against the SPIRIT of silence, and just a shity workaround. Menawhile clowns who remove shoes are blatantly powergaming so they ought to be ganked.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
*takes off shoes specifically to make you upset*confused rock wrote:I fucking hate the mime talking shit, since mimes just use pda to talk which is against the SPIRIT of silence, and just a shity workaround. Menawhile clowns who remove shoes are blatantly powergaming so they ought to be ganked.
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
Why do people get upset when doctors don't heal people?
Why do people get upset when cargo doesn't order anything?
Why do people get upset when engineers don't set up power?
Why do people get upset when Chef/Botanists don't make food?
Why do people get upset when borgs don't follow their laws?
Why do people get upset when clowns don't dress like clowns?
Because it's their damn job.
Why do people get upset when cargo doesn't order anything?
Why do people get upset when engineers don't set up power?
Why do people get upset when Chef/Botanists don't make food?
Why do people get upset when borgs don't follow their laws?
Why do people get upset when clowns don't dress like clowns?
Because it's their damn job.
Law 0: Secborg din do nuffin.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
The clown is a performer. It is his job to perform, and costumes are often used to do so, hence why he is given an entire vendor of costumes
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
he didn't have the costume vendor originally, and I can guarantee you that even before the clown clothing moodlet stuff that 85% of those costumes weren't used.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
You can't guarantee that, and if even you could, what's your point? That the 15% of people that run gimmicks involving other costumes can fuck themselves? I don't think so, shoefag. *takes off clown shoes*iamgoofball wrote:he didn't have the costume vendor originally, and I can guarantee you that even before the clown clothing moodlet stuff that 85% of those costumes weren't used.
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
actually I can guarantee it, because I added stat logging to the costume vendors, and in the PR I made to remove unused costumes, we found that they were mostly all unusedPKPenguin321 wrote:You can't guarantee that, and if even you could, what's your point? That the 15% of people that run gimmicks involving other costumes can fuck themselves? I don't think so, shoefag. *takes off clown shoes*iamgoofball wrote:he didn't have the costume vendor originally, and I can guarantee you that even before the clown clothing moodlet stuff that 85% of those costumes weren't used.
oh wait, i cant show you those stats because lol github ban
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
I did the thing
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42791
Please post here why this is terrible and will forever ruin /tg/station
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42791
Please post here why this is terrible and will forever ruin /tg/station
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
>One of the most established aspects of game design is that players hate punishments but love rewards, even if the two are identical effects with different feels. So this change has solid design backing it.Mickyan wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42791
Oh no, I died, this is so punishing.
No worries, we will add thousands of meme ghost roles so you can keep playing.
Oh no, I have to walk from botany to chemistry to get my mutagen, this is so punishing.
No worries, we will merge chemistry and botany.
Oh no, I've picked a roleplaying funny-man job, wearing the iconic outfit is a minor inconvenience.
No worries, we will make it so you don't have to.
So how long before SS13 is officially declared dead?
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
I actually meant the opposite, they should make the other masks count under the moodie, just so long as the clown is wearing a costume mask of some kind.Ayy Lemoh wrote:What about sexy mime/clown mask? Do they count or should we remove them?Yakumo_Chen wrote:You deserve everything that comes to you TBH. Maybe the masks should be added under the moodie but you shouldn't be demasking yourself as clown or mime
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Re: Remove the bad moodlet for the clown not wearing clown stuff.
I should probably point out I wasn't saying I personally want the change, I was simply pointing out that, all things being equal, a reward is more liked than a punishment. If you want to argue that the punishment is still necessary, that's fair. There are concerns much greater than being liked. Dying is a punishment and nobody is advocating for removing that!
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