Trialmin Review: Plapatin

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Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Arianya » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:03 am #480397

Plapatin has now been in the .txt as a Trial Admin for roughly two months.

Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby LaKiller8 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:15 pm #480457

If he's as good on /tg/ as he's here then he's a goodmin must promote.

For a slightly more serious answer he's been very helpful in figuring out and setting policy.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby lmwevil » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:30 pm #480498

literally vanished with no warning and cut connections and hasn't come back, whatever the reason it was so childish that it's clear he isn't fit to be an admin



edit: oh he finally appeared back when it was time for review, still really bad form

edit2: the content of his administration was fine from what i knew prior to the unknown *poof* where not even the headmins (apparently) could contact him

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Nilons » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:03 am #480565

lmwevil wrote:literally vanished with no warning and cut connections and hasn't come back, whatever the reason it was so childish that it's clear he isn't fit to be an admin



If you dont know the reason how do you know it was childish

If you do know the reason why not share it instead of expecting people to take your word for it
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:06 pm #480575

Edit: No wait it wasnt that one apparently.


He's alright at administrating but hes no good at chess
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby oranges » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:36 am #480674

Nilons wrote:
lmwevil wrote:literally vanished with no warning and cut connections and hasn't come back, whatever the reason it was so childish that it's clear he isn't fit to be an admin



If you dont know the reason how do you know it was childish

If you do know the reason why not share it instead of expecting people to take your word for it

it doesn't take much effort to let people know you're vanishing for a while

it's not great behaviour but it's not like their absence kills anyone.l
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:53 am #480697

lmwevil wrote:literally vanished with no warning and cut connections and hasn't come back, whatever the reason it was so childish that it's clear he isn't fit to be an admin

So, he vanished with no warning and I assume no reason. We know what that means:

dipshit alert! i hope he fucking loses his lunch money holy crap im gonna go fucking UGH I JUST FUCKING HATE THIS CHILD-ASS-MOTHERFUCKA ADMEME

lmwevil, you need to explain your thought process to me here. How is vanishing childish? It's a bit rude but not childish imo. How is the headmins not being able to contact you childish when, from past experience with a different set of headmins, some tried to contact me once and they gave up at the first sign of resistance.

like literally leave your criticism at "rarely plays" since that will mean more than going "rarely plays and here's why he's petty for that"

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby lmwevil » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:15 am #480701

it's rather the fact that he left the discord, severed all communication and the only way we could find out what the hell was going on was incidental through a minecraft server - if you have irl problems sure, take a break but it takes no effort to say 'i'll be back later'. there are more mature methods of dealing with whatever went on with him than making people worry and in general being really fucking confusing, and that's my main problem.



edit: in an entirely unrelated situation (whatever the above one was) he also did a similar thing after a discussion in adminbus

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Coconutwarrior97 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:33 am #480703

I think plapatin is a good admin in game, and connects very well with the players (Which makes a more fun experience for everyone).
Specifically plays good midis/sounds, and I've seen some funny interactions via prayers. Also seems to have a handle on the enforcement side of things.
With that being said I can't say I'm a particular fan of the leaving without saying anything, something that has happened twice so far. Its perfectly fine to take a break, and admins do it all the time; but its important to just let someone know you are taking that break.
Failure to communicate this leaves me having doubts about what would happen in more extreme circumstances. If there's some admin complaint, or appeal, it would be nice to have some communication that an admin is just taking a vacation and will be able to handle it in a few days.
Rather than having know idea what they are up to and when said complaint/appeal would be handled. I think a long extension would be fair, just as re-assurance that Plapatin will be able to handle any absences more appropriately in the future.

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Plapatin is a good admin in game, and makes the server better with his presence. However, I feel I need to be re-assured he will be better communicating going forward.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Hulkamania » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:41 am #480705

I absolutely love Plapatin and I think he's a wonderful person. I also don't think anyone is required to provide any explanation for anything they do. But I do think that leaving the team outright without saying a word to anyone, then coming back straight away is unprofessional at best.

Plapatin is well liked by the players and his fellow admins, I can't stress that enough. But leaving entirely without letting anyone know and then coming back is something that just doesn't speak well to someone's stability. You are not required nor obligated to tell anyone why you decide to leave or when, but when you come back after a stunt like that that's just not something I can support.

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Nilons » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:55 am #480707

Leaving a discord server without advance notice is hardly childish
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Qbmax32 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:33 pm #480784

lmwevil wrote:it's rather the fact that he left the discord, severed all communication and the only way we could find out what the hell was going on was incidental through a minecraft server - if you have irl problems sure, take a break but it takes no effort to say 'i'll be back later'. there are more mature methods of dealing with whatever went on with him than making people worry and in general being really fucking confusing, and that's my main problem.



edit: in an entirely unrelated situation (whatever the above one was) he also did a similar thing after a discussion in adminbus




fuck off lol people have every right to take time that they need to deal with irl shit. this is not a job, we are not paid workers.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby MrAlphonzo » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:46 pm #480819

No massive harm was done by his sudden disappearance, and I'm sure someone would only pull a vanishing act like that if they had a very good reason. It's not like he was a head administrator. We all get overwhelmed from time to time.

From what I've seen, Plapatin is a solid admin whose put a lot of time in.

If this is the biggest complaint against him, that just makes his case for a promotion.

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby obscolene » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:18 pm #480840

Qbmax32 wrote:
lmwevil wrote:it's rather the fact that he left the discord, severed all communication and the only way we could find out what the hell was going on was incidental through a minecraft server - if you have irl problems sure, take a break but it takes no effort to say 'i'll be back later'. there are more mature methods of dealing with whatever went on with him than making people worry and in general being really fucking confusing, and that's my main problem.
edit: in an entirely unrelated situation (whatever the above one was) he also did a similar thing after a discussion in adminbus

fuck off lol people have every right to take time that they need to deal with irl shit. this is not a job, we are not paid workers.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Kingtrin » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:23 am #480912

It's not immature or childish to leave a community unannounced and then show up later. it is, however, a bit hurtful and makes you more apprehensive about relying on them. like, yea shit happens and you need to go take care of something or maybe you just want some alone time. It's not a big deal to leave, but it's nice to let people know you aren't trying to forget about them. Also, being an admin already carries a lot of weight socially so I would perfer we don't shit too hard on people who want their space.

In all other respects they are a fine individual and great admin. You are more than welcome to swing by our discord again and shoot the shit.

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Arianya » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:23 am #480922

Suffice it to say the headmins are (now) aware of why plapatin left temporarily (and no, we won't be disclosing it).

Kingtrin is pretty much on the money. Real life comes first, but it is common courtesy to let us know if you're going away. Being in discord (since it supplanted IRC) is part of the requirements of adminning so leaving without warning is very much a good way to end up deadminned, atleast until you return to the discord.

That said, there's not much value in continuing to speculate on why it happened. It is what it is and energy is better spent discussing their in game conduct at this point.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Lazengann » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:12 pm #480962

From what I've seen of him in game he's pretty capable, answering tickets and running events at the same time. I like him.

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby terranaut » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:26 pm #480967

I have not seen them ingame as of yet but when I joined the Discord a short while ago and talked about my very long absence they were friendly and open to me while I talked about times begone and changes that have been included since.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby bman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:18 pm #481447

obscolene wrote:
Qbmax32 wrote:
lmwevil wrote:it's rather the fact that he left the discord, severed all communication and the only way we could find out what the hell was going on was incidental through a minecraft server - if you have irl problems sure, take a break but it takes no effort to say 'i'll be back later'. there are more mature methods of dealing with whatever went on with him than making people worry and in general being really fucking confusing, and that's my main problem.
edit: in an entirely unrelated situation (whatever the above one was) he also did a similar thing after a discussion in adminbus

fuck off lol people have every right to take time that they need to deal with irl shit. this is not a job, we are not paid workers.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Boris » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:18 pm #481487

bman wrote:
obscolene wrote:
Qbmax32 wrote:
lmwevil wrote:it's rather the fact that he left the discord, severed all communication and the only way we could find out what the hell was going on was incidental through a minecraft server - if you have irl problems sure, take a break but it takes no effort to say 'i'll be back later'. there are more mature methods of dealing with whatever went on with him than making people worry and in general being really fucking confusing, and that's my main problem.
edit: in an entirely unrelated situation (whatever the above one was) he also did a similar thing after a discussion in adminbus

fuck off lol people have every right to take time that they need to deal with irl shit. this is not a job, we are not paid workers.

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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby wubli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:00 pm #481674

he's a good admin and a good boy, i'm glad i candidated him
i agree it's not exactly good to leave without saying anything, mostly because we worry as friends more than we worry as admins, but it's nothing that can't be solved with a little bit of talking
still, he good, and he should be promoted
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby Horza » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:51 am #481947

Plap has always taken care of Sybil, even after his sudden disappearance. He's a bit more subdued and I'm not going to ask what happened, but even now he's still put more effort into Sybil adminning than anyone save for Hulk. He's still approachable, still tries to make it fun for everyone, and even though you can actively tell that he's working through some things, he's still doing a good job taking care of us. That's noticeably rare, considering some bagil-regular or terry-regular admins sometimes drop in to handle sybil and make a mess of the job since they don't understand the server's own intricacies. I can't speak more highly of Plappers, even after this absence.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Plapatin

Postby TribeOfBeavers » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:16 am #482158

As mentioned in the thread there was a minor incident with Plapatin vanishing without warning for a little while. We don't require admins to be active at all times or anything, but if you're going to completely vanish and cut all contact for a bit we do ask you give us a heads up so we know what the situation is.
Plapatin was spoken to about this and agreed to be better about it in the future.

As he has otherwise been a good admin and agreed that it wouldn't happen again, we have decided to promote them to GameAdmin.


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