Early Launching
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Early Launching
We should ban anyone who (successfully) early launches the shuttle (from the station to Centcomm; the thing that requires you to swipe three head IDs (or use an emag) to do) in a situation that doesn't warrant it from all head roles for a day.
Reasons that would warrant an early launch:
[*]cult
[*]singulo is loose
[*]maybe aliens if they've REALLY gotten out of hand...)
[*]the server is being lagged to a point of unplayability and EVERYONE just wants the pain to STOP
[*]you're an antag
[*]an active murderboner is on the loose
[*]etc.
Reasons that would NOT warrant an early launch (on their own; they don't stop other reasons from being valid ones to early launch):
[*]traitors, changelings, and/or blood brothers exist
[*]the AI is subverted, but they have no active borgs left
[*]a singularity got loose at some point, but drifted far away into space somewhere or was otherwise dealt with 30 minutes ago and is no longer a threat
[*]someone screamed out over comms that you shouldn't early launch, and you want to early launch just to spite them because you have the sense of humor of a three year old
[*]keeping antags from greentexting, even if it means marooning half of the crew
[*]you like to listen to people salt about early launches
[*]"I wanna go home"
[*]literally no reason
[*]etc.
People who launch the escape shuttle early without a good reason are SCUM and even a dayban from all command roles might be too light of a punishment for them, change my mind.
Reasons that would warrant an early launch:
[*]cult
[*]singulo is loose
[*]maybe aliens if they've REALLY gotten out of hand...)
[*]the server is being lagged to a point of unplayability and EVERYONE just wants the pain to STOP
[*]you're an antag
[*]an active murderboner is on the loose
[*]etc.
Reasons that would NOT warrant an early launch (on their own; they don't stop other reasons from being valid ones to early launch):
[*]traitors, changelings, and/or blood brothers exist
[*]the AI is subverted, but they have no active borgs left
[*]a singularity got loose at some point, but drifted far away into space somewhere or was otherwise dealt with 30 minutes ago and is no longer a threat
[*]someone screamed out over comms that you shouldn't early launch, and you want to early launch just to spite them because you have the sense of humor of a three year old
[*]keeping antags from greentexting, even if it means marooning half of the crew
[*]you like to listen to people salt about early launches
[*]"I wanna go home"
[*]literally no reason
[*]etc.
People who launch the escape shuttle early without a good reason are SCUM and even a dayban from all command roles might be too light of a punishment for them, change my mind.
- Malkraz
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Re: Early Launching
we do
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
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Re: Early Launching
But we almost never enforce that rule, and we really, really should (enforce that rule more).Malkraz wrote:we do
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Re: Early Launching
then change the title to "make admins enforce the rules"
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
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Re: Early Launching
I enforce this rule plenty and I know other admins do, this is honestly pointless
- Malkraz
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Re: Early Launching
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
- Coconutwarrior97
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Re: Early Launching
I warned someone for this today. This is a non-issue.
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Re: Early Launching
Early launching will end the round faster which will allow you another chance to roll for antag faster, thus increasing the amount of spacemen that you turn horizontal per hour. It's called gamer strategy.
- Anuv
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Re: Early Launching
The problem with this is the risk of punishment clearly doesn't outweigh the potential gains (become traitor next round 3 minutes faster). Plus there's absolutely no downside to doing it when no admins are online.
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Re: Early Launching
I think the disconnect is that most people play with no admin coverage, so even though admins enforce it, it's happening.
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Re: Early Launching
I've seen people getting warned about this in the past, naturally if there is no admin online then not a whole lot can be done about it. If you see it and think there is no reason for a early launch you could always try ahelping it. That said, if there's a credible threat then you're just shit out of luck.
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- wesoda25
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Re: Early Launching
Move this to code suggestions since we already ban for it, so the only thing that could result out of this thread would be a new PR.
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Re: Early Launching
Could we make people who early launch the shuttle for no good reason officially valid (as in, murderable without other provocation by non-antags)? Are they already valid?
- terranaut
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Re: Early Launching
mhmmmmm validsATHATH wrote:Could we make people who early launch the shuttle for no good reason officially valid (as in, murderable without other provocation by non-antags)? Are they already valid?
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Re: Early Launching
I wouldn't really care if someone got killed over that personally but it's up to the headmins to draw the line
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Re: Early Launching
Buying shitty shuttles is already "valid" but I've never seen anyone actually get lynched for it, even an assistant who stole AAATHATH wrote:Could we make people who early launch the shuttle for no good reason officially valid (as in, murderable without other provocation by non-antags)? Are they already valid?
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Re: Early Launching
look harder then, everytime someone does this on bagil a swarm of 10 people, including security officers, gang up on the captain/whoever did itAnuv wrote:Buying shitty shuttles is already "valid" but I've never seen anyone actually get lynched for it, even an assistant who stole AAATHATH wrote:Could we make people who early launch the shuttle for no good reason officially valid (as in, murderable without other provocation by non-antags)? Are they already valid?
god forbid you try to protect them, you're now valid too
- cedarbridge
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Re: Early Launching
We also don't make public loudspeaker announcements every time we note or ban somebody. So this gets notes and bans when it happens. Players just see other players doing the thing and not instantly exploding into gibs and presume that nothing is happening.oranges wrote:I think the disconnect is that most people play with no admin coverage, so even though admins enforce it, it's happening.
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Re: Early Launching
Also I'm going to say that asking for it to be "officially valid" is kinda weird - if someone does something like launch the shuttle early nearly leaving you on station/actually leaving your colleagues on station/etc for no good reason then I feel like it's pretty intuitive that you might be mad at them and kick their ass? Not everything needs to be a black/white "valid or not" thing.
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- terranaut
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Re: Early Launching
unless youre an antag and having your greentext ruined by an early launch why do you honestly care about being left behind
i've never understood this obsession, i cant wrap my head around it at all
i've never understood this obsession, i cant wrap my head around it at all
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Re: Early Launching
unless youre an antag and your greentext will be ruined if you don't immediately launch the shuttle why do you honestly care about early launching it
i've never understood this obsession, i cant wrap my head around it at all
i've never understood this obsession, i cant wrap my head around it at all
- Mickyan
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Re: Early Launching
Why does this only deserve a warning anyway, being left on the station is functionally the same as being dead and we don't excuse BoH bombing the shuttle just because the round is about to end, why is this different
This should warrant a job ban at the very least
This should warrant a job ban at the very least
- terranaut
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Re: Early Launching
pretty bad postconfused rock wrote:unless youre an antag and your greentext will be ruined if you don't immediately launch the shuttle why do you honestly care about early launching it
i've never understood this obsession, i cant wrap my head around it at all
personally i only early launch during nuke or when there's a ton of xenos
but most of the time when i enter the shuttle i just tab out and wait for the lobby music to start if im not shitposting in ooc
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Re: Early Launching
so what you are saying is, you never tab out?
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Re: Early Launching
Just put a teleporter beacon on the shuttle and early launch???
- terranaut
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Re: Early Launching
This isn't the cuckshed bucko, prepare for your admin complaintNikNakFlak wrote:so what you are saying is, you never tab out?
- NecromancerAnne
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Re: Early Launching
I've been enforcing this rule every time. Not really sure what you want from this ATHATH, it's literally already a reality as far as I can tell. It's just that you're likely not aware of it because it's handled so close to round end. Admins aren't just going to announce 'yeah we banned that guy big epic' every time it happened. It might not even BE a ban if it isn't a repeat offense. Sometimes the guy is lynched and it's handled IC.
Context matters?
Context matters?
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- Cobby
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Re: Early Launching
I just had to warn someone for this today (well 2 people).
Be sure to ahelp early launches if you don't see anything to early launch for.
Be sure to ahelp early launches if you don't see anything to early launch for.
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- wubli
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Re: Early Launching
This is already enforced, unless there's no one around, or they haven't noticed. We encourage you to ahelp it if you see it, because yes, it's extremely in bad faith to early launch because unga my antag roll faster.
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