Darkgenerallord wrote:We could in fact always ban you for being a shit in OOC.
If this is the case, it doesn't make sense why people are deliberating over this like it's a big change to how rules are enforced. If a community vote is held and the clarification is struck from the rules page, people are still going to get banned for OOC conduct. The only difference is that the few who didn't know better wouldn't have been informed by the rules ahead of time.
"Don't be a dick" is as concise as it gets. If someone reads that and go "hmm it doesn't technically say I can't do this specific thing to person" it's not someone I want on the server. And also wrapped in your reply is a big assumption, that people that will be banned for OOC conduct could have not reached critical dick mass had the rule been there. No, that is the job of the admin. Unless the offender went nuclear and doxed players or somesuch, there is a window of time where an admin can step in and explain why critical ass was achieved and try to defuse the situation.
But the other important detail that everyone ignored apparently is that the new rule broadens the scope from IC to OOC. The old version clearly limited its scope to what happens ingame, while the new version extends the reach outside the round. The administration always moderated OOC like any other chatroom I saw: no spam, don't be annoying. If people ever started salting at eachother profusely it tended to get muted until round end, and by next round things would mostly be normal again. The forums, IRC, and I assume discord all have their dedicated moderating group. Moderating IC and OOC has always been separate, with bans to one not necessarily applying to the other.
I, personally, am deliberating on this shit a lot Ike because this is an incredibly poor start from the new admininstration. They changed this because it was a campaign promise, so SOMEONE had to care beforehand. They ALSO admitted it was controversial, yet when someone suggested a poll they acted amused and joked about finding 10 individuals that cared. Turns out people cared, but turns out it doesn't matter because there was no headmin majority for this change to begin with. And if this was such a minor thing, why the resistance?
This is important. This is new blood coming in, making their own cliques (because making circlejerks is all /tg/ players are fucking good at apparently), and then when this clique starts shit with other players they start changing the server. Who are all these people going to morto complaining of harassment? Who are all these people that want harassment codified into the ruleset? Who are they being harassed by and why?