Zytolg wrote:Critawakets wrote:If there supposedly was a fix made now for box's powernet, would it still be removed?
What I get from reading this thread is that it is box's lack of maintenance, straight up opposition to any "major" changes by more vocal parties, and similarities to other, more popular maps in the rotation that are the main problems. Yes, it would be nice if box's powernet was fixed, but that's the tip of the iceberg here. A fix doesn't mean the map is maintained.
If people want to keep box that badly, someone needs to be willing to take up the mantle and maintain it.
If people are going to oppose every change. Expect mappers to have no motivation whatsoever for maintaining box.
Also, stop blaming maintainers when it was the very playerbase that voted Kilostation, a months long
DEAD map into 3rd place,
over box.
It really says a lot.
Even if maps are "maintained." that doesn't generate player interest.
The real issue is c*ders not porting the same features to all maps and only furthering the divide and I assume reasons to remove a map like MSO said.
Not all maps have the experimentor anymore simply because some of them removed it for the Bepis. Whilst others simply moved it to RND, and others removed the gun range for it. The last one makes the most sense because science no longer has weaponry.
It's an issue of equal map updates, and for that I say. I'd prefer the versatility of maps compared to coders creating new features and not adding them to all maps, being enough justification to take out the change of pace that is a new map.
It always gets too standardized and power gamed if you only have 3 maps in rotation, so you can easily tell where the weaknesses of the station lie, and where to find the best powergamer loot in maint. That makes the standard ss13 round dull and monotonous after a few hours. Compared to the different tricks ice-box can offer you compared to donut. Or meta to pubby.
Thus, my solution would be. Create a new policy that makes c*ders who decide to add new content instead of expand on existing old content, be forced to port it to all stations before it's test-merged/merged. That'll do us the good of not having maps with lack of codebase features and force coders who add new stuff instead of expanding on already barren job content not further push any divide between maps.
It'll also maybe have them focus on retooling and reworking old machines that no longer see the light. Because once more, that bepis could have always just been a re-configured experimentor and no map issues would have arose. Unlike it replacing it on some maps and removing it on others.
TLDR: Maintainers need a new policy. Otherwise maps are constantly going to be left in the dust due to coder L*zyness