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So they gib people like normal cult, for wizard tier powers? Shadowling ascension?
I honestly have no clue if it was deserved to yeet their tools until I know how OP they get
But from rocks explanation, they do sound kinda OP ngl
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
Alright, just appears to me that once you get past the initial admin screening that you're left to do whatever you want. Maybe that's just my inner Hitler coming through, but three headmins that only get activated way after the fact and nothing else inbetween to stop you from anything short of spawning yourself in as station destroying god, is something I would call a poor system.
On the headmins I also want to comment, that the ones we had, have in part made highly suspect rulings themselves and absolutely refused to see any reason in their opposition. There has not been a peep from the current ones about this situation, the rock boy has been hanging for almost a week now, a case that I, in my humble opinion, would consider simple. I don't see the current headmins as capable to uncover and bust street-smart janitors that deceive you and abuse their powers in more subtle ways, and I think these guys, and thus the only safety mechanism we have, are absolutely ineffective as a protective measure against any rogue admin with a pinch of wits.
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I mean they caught GeneralThrax abusing and busted him down to trial, and they banned bgo for a week for the deathsquad thing, and "Bad history" probbably applies to admins as much as players; it's just that admins seem to cut it out the *first* time their hand gets bit off by the cookie jar.
kieth4 wrote:
infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am
Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
I doubt the Sith care about your personal politics to any degree as long as you bend the knee.
Meanwhile the snowflake councilor on Coruscant ignores the crime that has to be past rampant on her cityword, plans to take over the galaxy with help of Jedi false flag operations so she can ignore more people so that.... The Republic grows?
Yeah... Right.
I'll personally take being conscripted to an army of a crazy warlord who uses magic for purpose of being the supreme warlord than the guys trying to destroy my society with false flags, random justified murder and magic without doing anything to support it. At least I know where I stand in relation to my would be body of governance when it's all said and done.
Sith probably even give you money, drugs, guns, slaves and cool ass spaceships for being a good little soldier.
Jedi are most likely going to consider you one of those "subversives" for wanting something in return for your efforts if you do help them, if they don't just go "may the force be with you" and forget you exist five minutes later.
Guess there's some conversation about which is more "evil", people who are going to take over your shit with force of arms, or the people who will absolutely 100% believe they are doing the right thing while in the process grind your belief systems and society to the ground to be more like them.
One's going to just do it, kill you if you don't comply and another one will spend the next few generations trying to brainwash you after killing everyone who's evil in their eyes and leaving your society open to rampant crime and corrupt companies to exploit.
"Don't worry, there's one Jedi in here somewhere amongst the untold billions making it all sunshine and flowers."
Since that's literally the faith commoners have concerning the Force? That it's somehow all going to be okay in the end.
Sith take is prolly having this nagging sensation they should tell someone to do something about that fucking crime so they don't get bothered all the time at least.
Not that didney is going to touch any of that concept with a ten foot pole as since "lightsaber go soi soi" and depth of story has never been much of a concern for them as long as kids go "wow that's cool" and buy the toys.
Edit; Oh hello, i'm on purpose derailing up this thread.
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
I'm a dumb feature coder, also a bad (but not terrible) coderspriter and a semi-good mapper and an enforcer of standards.
you can find me playing when i'm not coding or playing csgo as cleans-the-house on event hall, sybil or manuel
Because Aura made that dumbfuck peanut earlier today, I decided I'd be powered by spite and get to the truth of what happened in this round.
Dove in the logs. Posted logs and events in chronological order in the ban appeal.
Crusaders take over Chapel -> Crusaders attack Constanze and Bobby Beeswax -> Both call for sec to help -> Issy Lizzy turns up. Threatens the Crusaders. This is the first time he has interacted with them in the entire shift, AFTER the Crusaders have already attacked -> Issy Lizzy fucks off to go get some gamer gear -> MEANWHILE -> Constanze breaks into robotics to get some flashes -> Constanze storms the chapel -> Issy Lizzy turns up 15 seconds later and assists -> Constanze cold-blood executes one Crusader -> Issy and Constanze beat another Crusader until they succumb in crit -> Constanze stabilises the third crusader -> Constanze subsequently executes the third crusader.
Aura is a collosal asshole who got EVERYTHING wrong about this ban. Fuck 'em. Demote 'em back to trial. Teach 'em how to not be a shitmin.
Headmins, get on this and unban him.
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Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
I know headmins want to look over the event to get more details and want to coordinate between all 3 and all but unless their goal is to craft the best excuse for why they're going to uphold the permaban I think they should consider that I am still fucking banned and it's not going to expire so please make the obvious decision unless your goal is to imply that any admin can weekban+ someone they don't like for a ludicrous reason and get away with it.
Honestly rock to paraphrase what one orange maintainer once said
"If you don't want to be banned, be sure to check adminwho to see who's adminning before you start playing"
Good thing I'm not on any admins shitlist though (because I'm on all of theirs) so I don't have to follow this advice.
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
Well I don't do that and it says a lot about the society we live in
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
I would never do that either. I fully trust the judgement of people that have been conscripted from all over the world and that I have never met or know anything about.
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I do it but only so I know who might be watching so I can badger them via prayer and explain what dumb shit I'm up to and also because many of them are literally my friends.
FloranOtten wrote:
The headmins deadmin you if you're a shitter, but not for one or two bad bans.
You have to be a real stupido to get deadminned
- Nabski literally saying in deadchat before banning haku is "I'm metagruding haku"
So, all these glaring WTFs are me saying that, even if you have a string of fucking up. You won't get deadminned as long as you don't make it brutally obvious that there was no chance of error.
Excuse me my comment was "I hate haku". They had a tiny brain and would constantly get themselves involved in half hour long arguments where they were unable to see that you can be valid to kill when you are a syndicate borg.
I hate walmart, but that doesn't mean I am metagrudging walmart.
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Nabski wrote:Excuse me my comment was "I hate haku". They had a tiny brain and would constantly get themselves involved in half hour long arguments where they were unable to see that you can be valid to kill when you are a syndicate borg.
I hate walmart, but that doesn't mean I am metagrudging walmart.
What was it again?
[2018-12-18 03:50:05.530] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Nabski/(Gene Ball) "on one hand I hate haku" (Robotics Lab (113, 84, 2))
[2018-12-18 03:50:19.328] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Nabski/(Gene Ball) "on the other I don't really think this is actionable" (Robotics Lab (113, 84, 2))
That's less "I hate walmart" and more "I know Walmart isn't technically in violation of building codes, but I still hate them so"
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Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
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Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
I'm feeling a lot of emotions based upon the fact that everyone plays detective to arrest people on manuel and they always get mad at me when I refuse to give them sechuds and now when I'm secbanned I'm not banned from detective
confused rock wrote:I'm feeling a lot of emotions based upon the fact that everyone plays detective to arrest people on manuel and they always get mad at me when I refuse to give them sechuds and now when I'm secbanned I'm not banned from detective
Banned for murdering/validhunting when he didn't murder or validhunt.
Job banned from every sec role except the one role designed to find valids and given a lethal revolver to do their job.
The irony is almost palpable.
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Nabski wrote:Excuse me my comment was "I hate haku". They had a tiny brain and would constantly get themselves involved in half hour long arguments where they were unable to see that you can be valid to kill when you are a syndicate borg.
I hate walmart, but that doesn't mean I am metagrudging walmart.
What was it again?
[2018-12-18 03:50:05.530] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Nabski/(Gene Ball) "on one hand I hate haku" (Robotics Lab (113, 84, 2))
[2018-12-18 03:50:19.328] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Nabski/(Gene Ball) "on the other I don't really think this is actionable" (Robotics Lab (113, 84, 2))
That's less "I hate walmart" and more "I know Walmart isn't technically in violation of building codes, but I still hate them so"
I don't have a point just don't lie about shit to make yourself look good.
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2. You must obey orders given to you by revs are non humanss, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Yeah that comment was before I continued to look into the issue.
Trusting haku to have been doing things with good intentions is like trusting has station sushi. If it was from somewhere decent you could just eat it but hmmmmm maybe we should make sure they didn’t just put a new expiration date sticker on top of the old one.
Oh what do you know, it expired yesterday.
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I feel like I baited myself by even responding on this topic. I still think my actions at the time were reasonable, but also that me being deadminned was the right thing to do.
confused rock wrote:I'm feeling a lot of emotions based upon the fact that everyone plays detective to arrest people on manuel and they always get mad at me when I refuse to give them sechuds and now when I'm secbanned I'm not banned from detective
Banned for murdering/validhunting when he didn't murder or validhunt.
Job banned from every sec role except the one role designed to find valids and given a lethal revolver to do their job.
The irony is almost palpable.
Detectives aren't cops.
They're just a guy with a gun. So they're gonna act like a guy with a gun, and have no need to bring you in alive.
good point anne I'll just be a detective next time I need to assist a chaplain in critically injuring one of the 3 crusaders who then succumbed at -41 hp therefore meaning that there were 3 people involved in the death and I was only one of them
That's how I play detective. First thing I do is go to the warden and ask for a shotgun, because it is the superior law enforcement weapon. If he doesn't give it to me, I shoot him, because he is obstructing justice. Then I patrol the station to make sure everything is safe. Assistant pushes the clown? I shoot them both. They are disturbing the peace. At this point I ask mining to bring in more metal so I can print ammunition for my law enforcement weapon. Sometimes they don't listen, then I go to the HOP and ask him to give me access to mining. If he says no, or overrides my job with "shaft miner", I shoot him, because he is obstructing justice, and also loitering in his office. Then I go to mining, and start searching for metal. I use my GPS to track down lost miners along the way, and shoot them, because they were obstructing justice, of course. This is how I keep the station safe, and I have not heard a single complaint during my duty since I started.
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headmins coming in to merge this with the other peanut threat about me by "mistake" and leaving the appeal ignored for 8+ days is like when my dad came back to belt me and then I never saw him again
LMAO I'M BANNED FROM DETECTIVE NOW TOO YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP I WASN'T EVEN GONNA PLAY DETECTIVE THIS IS TOO GOOD AURA AINT GOT TIME TO GIVE A REAL RESPONSE BUT THEY DO HAVE TIME TO TRY TO FUCK ME
that’s what you get for being a Scalie race traitor
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
I'm a dumb feature coder, also a bad (but not terrible) coderspriter and a semi-good mapper and an enforcer of standards.
you can find me playing when i'm not coding or playing csgo as cleans-the-house on event hall, sybil or manuel
confused rock wrote:LMAO I'M BANNED FROM DETECTIVE NOW TOO YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP I WASN'T EVEN GONNA PLAY DETECTIVE THIS IS TOO GOOD AURA AINT GOT TIME TO GIVE A REAL RESPONSE BUT THEY DO HAVE TIME TO TRY TO FUCK ME
Honestly what.
Dude HAS to know his retarded ban is getting overturned. Doesn't bother to do it himself. DOES however go to the effort to extend the ban scope.
Dude is a cunt.
Shadowflame909 wrote:Stickys the Chaotic Good admin out of a whole bunch of lawful good admins
It's not really chaotic to say "some dumbass admin is breaking the rules I'm fixing that one with my own admin powers"
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Stickymayhem wrote:Imagine the sheer narcisssim required to genuinely believe you are this intelligent.
Stickys the Chaotic Good admin out of a whole bunch of lawful good admins
Sometimes you need chaotic good to keep the playerbase running smooth.
On the other hand, though, considering how different the opinions of admins seem after several peanut threads. It makes me wonder if the admin general is like a radioactive dump of salt and admin clashes.
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
confused rock wrote:Note aura went back and banned me from detective as well so yeah, that's a thing that happened. Considering they had to time to add that ban and haven't said a single thing since their immediate dismissal 11 minutes after I first made this appeal, I highly doubt aura is considering this appeal in any way.
Considering the consistent ruling that players should not be punished for appealing bans, for the obvious reason that it discourages people from appealing any ban, appropriate or not, I'm lifting the detective ban.
Considering the initial intent was a full sec ban, I forgot to click one button at the time of the ban, and that I was remedeying it for the sake of consistency with intent as soon as I was informed I’d forgotten, I’ll be reapplying the detective ban when I get back from work.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman