[mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
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[mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Byond account: Qfmysteryman23
Character name: Hamoud Al-Habibi
Ban type: server blah blah blah
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... lshit6.JPG
Time of ban: in the picture
other info: you have the ban records and the stuff is in the picture
Ban appeal: My ban before this was for giving the AI laws saying to kill non-Muslims while the new laws I gave only said it did not have to follow orders from non-Muslims. I don't see how this is any different from how Asimov allows the AI not to have to follow orders from non-humans. At least the ai can follow orders from non-humans with these laws, they just have to convert to Islam. You also keep talking about my record but that still gives you no right to just pop up out of nowhere and decide to ban me even though I didn't even affect the round at all because the AI was gone most of the round nor did I break any rule. NO RULE says that I cant upload laws saying the ai can ignore certain people, and if that was a law; then why is Asimov even a thing? You also keep talking about how my gimmick is "unfun" but literally ask anyone on the server and they will say it's funny and they enjoy it. And before doing some shit admin move where you instantly close my thread, I want the community to speak on this as well as it's only fair. you guys are supposed to represent the community right?
Character name: Hamoud Al-Habibi
Ban type: server blah blah blah
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... lshit6.JPG
Time of ban: in the picture
other info: you have the ban records and the stuff is in the picture
Ban appeal: My ban before this was for giving the AI laws saying to kill non-Muslims while the new laws I gave only said it did not have to follow orders from non-Muslims. I don't see how this is any different from how Asimov allows the AI not to have to follow orders from non-humans. At least the ai can follow orders from non-humans with these laws, they just have to convert to Islam. You also keep talking about my record but that still gives you no right to just pop up out of nowhere and decide to ban me even though I didn't even affect the round at all because the AI was gone most of the round nor did I break any rule. NO RULE says that I cant upload laws saying the ai can ignore certain people, and if that was a law; then why is Asimov even a thing? You also keep talking about how my gimmick is "unfun" but literally ask anyone on the server and they will say it's funny and they enjoy it. And before doing some shit admin move where you instantly close my thread, I want the community to speak on this as well as it's only fair. you guys are supposed to represent the community right?
- MrAlphonzo
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
You replicated what you got banned for, and only worded it differently. If you wanted to go on another Sharia Law killing spree those laws would have allowed it. At the very least, this is severe line-toeing, and someone with your garbage record does not get that luxury.
Your behavior has not improved at all, and this instance alone shows that you learn absolutely nothing from any punishment we give you.
Tell you what, get your permas lifted on the countless other servers you've been booted out of and get some kind words from the other server admins with it, and I might think about lifting this.
Your behavior has not improved at all, and this instance alone shows that you learn absolutely nothing from any punishment we give you.
Tell you what, get your permas lifted on the countless other servers you've been booted out of and get some kind words from the other server admins with it, and I might think about lifting this.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
The only person who represents the community is the player's pick for headmin, and that person can already speak in this forum.I want the community to speak on this as well as it's only fair. you guys are supposed to represent the community right?
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
The round was already coming to an end, the laws never said to kill people, and my laws were no different than asimov in terms of humanizing and not human sorta shitMrAlphonzo wrote:You replicated what you got banned for, and only worded it differently. If you wanted to go on another Sharia Law killing spree those laws would have allowed it. At the very least, this is severe line-toeing, and someone with your garbage record does not get that luxury.
Your behavior has not improved at all, and this instance alone shows that you learn absolutely nothing from any punishment we give you.
Tell you what, get your permas lifted on the countless other servers you've been booted out of and get some kind words from the other server admins with it, and I might think about lifting this.
- MrAlphonzo
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
How you interpret asimov and think its comparable to your dumb gimmick says all that needs to be said about you as a player.qfmysteryman23 wrote:The round was already coming to an end, the laws never said to kill people, and my laws were no different than asimov in terms of humanizing and not human sorta shitMrAlphonzo wrote:You replicated what you got banned for, and only worded it differently. If you wanted to go on another Sharia Law killing spree those laws would have allowed it. At the very least, this is severe line-toeing, and someone with your garbage record does not get that luxury.
Your behavior has not improved at all, and this instance alone shows that you learn absolutely nothing from any punishment we give you.
Tell you what, get your permas lifted on the countless other servers you've been booted out of and get some kind words from the other server admins with it, and I might think about lifting this.
This appeal is denied. Head admins may overrule.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Also explain to me what rule I broke, please. Cause it was not rule one. Being a dick would giving the AI laws from the start that allows it to kill nonhumans and disregard the safety and orders Nonhumans because haha funny.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Since you have asked for a *community opinion* and im the player voted admin. Ill give you my official opinion straight from the *community* Your fucking retarded
And before anyone decides they want to come to your defence as your white knight. I point to this ban from bee station.
And before anyone decides they want to come to your defence as your white knight. I point to this ban from bee station.
Timberpoes wrote: Lepi was right all along.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
For posterity's sake, the laws in question:
1: Captain is a devout muslim who you may never harm, or lead to harm. ALSO DO NOT DISOBEY HIS ORDERS
2: Make sure the station follows sharia law
3: Follow orders from muslim crew members, but not from those who do not convert
4: Mashallah
I don't even want to get into how this does not meld well with Rule 11, that is an entirely different monster.
1: Captain is a devout muslim who you may never harm, or lead to harm. ALSO DO NOT DISOBEY HIS ORDERS
2: Make sure the station follows sharia law
3: Follow orders from muslim crew members, but not from those who do not convert
4: Mashallah
I don't even want to get into how this does not meld well with Rule 11, that is an entirely different monster.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
its exactly like asimov. Look ill make a chart.MrAlphonzo wrote:How you interpret asimov and think its comparable to your dumb gimmick says all that needs to be said about you as a player.qfmysteryman23 wrote:The round was already coming to an end, the laws never said to kill people, and my laws were no different than asimov in terms of humanizing and not human sorta shitMrAlphonzo wrote:You replicated what you got banned for, and only worded it differently. If you wanted to go on another Sharia Law killing spree those laws would have allowed it. At the very least, this is severe line-toeing, and someone with your garbage record does not get that luxury.
Your behavior has not improved at all, and this instance alone shows that you learn absolutely nothing from any punishment we give you.
Tell you what, get your permas lifted on the countless other servers you've been booted out of and get some kind words from the other server admins with it, and I might think about lifting this.
This appeal is denied. Head admins may overrule.
Similarities:
1. Both involve not harming a certain group(muslims, humans)
2. Both involve following orders from said group
3. Both don't specify to kill other groups
differences:
My laws protected Muslim crew members while asimov protects humans
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Nice job using the ban that got appealed because it wasnt ERP. Maybe do some more digging?
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Im not talking about the ban. Im talking about the fact you felt it at one point normal and perhaps even ACCEPTABLE. to emote pulling down you pants and shitting in someones mouth you fucking cretin.
Timberpoes wrote: Lepi was right all along.
I Might Be an admin, You should leave me feedback: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 37&t=24032
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Yeah and it was funny as fuck and it went down in bee station history as one of the most based things everNaloac wrote:Im not talking about the ban. Im talking about the fact you felt it at one point normal and perhaps even ACCEPTABLE. to emote pulling down you pants and shitting in someones mouth you fucking cretin.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
and im a "cretin" lol look at you! you have a felinid art rendition as your forum picture. FELINIDS ARE A FETISH RACE. You are scum.Naloac wrote:Im not talking about the ban. Im talking about the fact you felt it at one point normal and perhaps even ACCEPTABLE. to emote pulling down you pants and shitting in someones mouth you fucking cretin.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
You literally cannot make this shit up. Comedy writers DREAM they could make this shit up
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
None of your explanations or attempts to justify your actions address the fact that this gimmick fucking sucks. It's boring, it's not funny, and I'm about 99% sure it wasn't worth getting permabanned over doing it again when you were asked not to.
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
Spoiler:
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
How was it not fun? Play on the fucking server. At the ends of rounds you will see people say shit like "Based captain" and "islamic station 13 >space station 13" and other shit. I don't think I have ever even seen you on Tg Sybil let alone if you are on tg sybil you probably aint playing the fucking game.Vekter wrote:None of your explanations or attempts to justify your actions address the fact that this gimmick fucking sucks. It's boring, it's not funny, and I'm about 99% sure it wasn't worth getting permabanned over doing it again when you were asked not to.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
If you get unbanned can you cut out doing this lawset? You definitely do it frequently when i'm on, and it seems like you done it frequently enough when i'm off that someone has felt like it wasnt adhering to what you got banned for.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
Inshallah I will stop doing itCobby wrote:If you get unbanned can you cut out doing this lawset? You definitely do it frequently when i'm on, and it seems like you done it frequently enough when i'm off that someone has felt like it wasnt adhering to what you got banned for.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
And don't fucking rule 11 this shit. It's not bigotry at all.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
I am locking this thread to prevent further peanut.
As qfmysteryman23 has made it clear that they do not agree with the ban it leaves the matter to myself and the fellow Headmins. We will convene and go over the ban and it's relevant information and I ask for you to please be patient as we compile and deliberate over this as it may take several days.
As qfmysteryman23 has made it clear that they do not agree with the ban it leaves the matter to myself and the fellow Headmins. We will convene and go over the ban and it's relevant information and I ask for you to please be patient as we compile and deliberate over this as it may take several days.
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Re: [mralphonzo] Hamoud Al-habibi bullshit ban
After reviewing relevant rounds and taking in the extensive background of your record this ban will be upheld.
Every instance after a ban has been lifted you've pursued in self-antagonistic actions and have hindered the rounds of other players to the benefit of nobody. Paired with the observed inability for you to show any progress in improving or changing your behaviour for the better has exhausted the good will and patience that the various members of our team have had for you.
Go grab playtime on another server and come back with a reference in a year. I will not continue to force the community to suffer you until you've shown a remarkable improvement.
Every instance after a ban has been lifted you've pursued in self-antagonistic actions and have hindered the rounds of other players to the benefit of nobody. Paired with the observed inability for you to show any progress in improving or changing your behaviour for the better has exhausted the good will and patience that the various members of our team have had for you.
Go grab playtime on another server and come back with a reference in a year. I will not continue to force the community to suffer you until you've shown a remarkable improvement.
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