Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
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Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I ahelped about this, as a player on Terry broke into a bolted dorms room and stole the syndicate gear of a player that bought a surplus crate. Said player was aware the person in the dorms room was using their PDA so they broke in. I was told there should be a policy post about this by the admin on at the time and I agree, at what point is it ok to break into dorms to validhunt if ever. I'd say it falls under using metainfo, but is it against the rules to mention the fact someone is using PDA in dorms on comms, or just breaking in to steal their gear. Is it ok to use them having been to dorms to arrest them later too etcetera, or is it only OK when the player used a PDA because of players being allowed to be aware of all OOC mechanics.
Please share your thoughts.
Please share your thoughts.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
People who do this are the worst. One time on manuel of all places I saw an officer running around with a door remote and immediately checking any room that was bolted. Gross
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
if you have a reason to break into a bolted room (cult confirmed) yes, if you see man go in there and break in no
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
If an antag leaves his gear in a public place like dorms I feel like its their fault that their items got looted.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
If you're gonna buy something super conspicuous you should go in a nice little maint room instead. Everyone breaks in bolteed dorms doors, not even just to get antags, it's a bad spot.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I feel like after 9 years of dorms being the "buy a surplus spot" people should be a little more creative with their placement
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
God. This. If people are going to do the same tactic over years, is it really a shocker that it'd become a routine thing to consider? Knowing antags use PDAs to get gear and would want to do so someplace isolated like dorms for surplus crates makes sense to me.Armhulen wrote:I feel like after 9 years of dorms being the "buy a surplus spot" people should be a little more creative with their placement
That said it'd still be just as crappy as running through a laundry lists of antag checks to oust someone as an antagonist. Jumping on something for raising suspicion without having evidence is lame. That'd be like antag checking someone for being in maint near sec, but instead you are replacing sec maint with dorms.
All that considered though, what can be expected for picking such an obvious and well known spot?
Is dorms something that should really be protected for antags?
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I break into bolted dorm rooms to beat the shit out of ERPers, who the fuck does it to validhunt antags?
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
If i see bolted door in dorms what would i think? Yep. ERP in progress!
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
>buy a surplus anywhere elseMisdoubtful wrote:God. This. If people are going to do the same tactic over years, is it really a shocker that it'd become a routine thing to consider? Knowing antags use PDAs to get gear and would want to do so someplace isolated like dorms for surplus crates makes sense to me.Armhulen wrote:I feel like after 9 years of dorms being the "buy a surplus spot" people should be a little more creative with their placement
That said it'd still be just as crappy as running through a laundry lists of antag checks to oust someone as an antagonist. Jumping on something for raising suspicion without having evidence is lame. That'd be like antag checking someone for being in maint near sec, but instead you are replacing sec maint with dorms.
All that considered though, what can be expected for picking such an obvious and well known spot?
Is dorms something that should really be protected for antags?
>people discover you and your round ends
>buy a surplus in dorms
>admins will protect you so you can no longer be caught buying stuff
this is why we cannot protect the dorms with admin punishments, plain and simple
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I remember a long time ago (back when manuel was just sybil) as HoS I had the AI unbolt a dorm room 2 minutes into the round once.
It was funny as fuck just to see the guy's reaction to me looking at him and his fucking C4 bag lying on the floor.
I let him go because it just wouldn't be fair on him to have his antag round thrown into the trashcan because I cheesed him in a dorm room.
He ended up coming back to the station (I think he went off to space ruins after he did his objectives) to help fight off a malf AI in exchange for a pardon.
Good times.
It was funny as fuck just to see the guy's reaction to me looking at him and his fucking C4 bag lying on the floor.
I let him go because it just wouldn't be fair on him to have his antag round thrown into the trashcan because I cheesed him in a dorm room.
He ended up coming back to the station (I think he went off to space ruins after he did his objectives) to help fight off a malf AI in exchange for a pardon.
Good times.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I frequently see silicons and security check bolted dorm rooms just because they are bolted, as if the bolting wasnt an intended function of the room. I dont do antag stuff in there, for reasons mentioned earlier in the thread, but I have definetely gotten in trouble for having contraband on me and being afk in dorms for a few minutes. This is fucking retarded and I will ahelp it every time it happens as its basically random searching, which is against our rules.
If a validhunting assistant does it its basically the same thing.
If a validhunting assistant does it its basically the same thing.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Except if an assistant does it, it's not searching it's called getting muggedskoglol wrote:I frequently see silicons and security check bolted dorm rooms just because they are bolted, as if the bolting wasnt an intended function of the room. I dont do antag stuff in there, for reasons mentioned earlier in the thread, but I have definetely gotten in trouble for having contraband on me and being afk in dorms for a few minutes. This is fucking retarded and I will ahelp it every time it happens as its basically random searching, which is against our rules.
If a validhunting assistant does it its basically the same thing.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Bolted doors draw attention, especially in the dorms. People are curious what they're being excluded from. Don't spawn traitor items in places people are likely to break into if you don't want to be found. Low traffic areas assistants don't have access to are underrated.
I still think there needs to be a code solution to going AFK that makes it harder to get at people's inventories. Locking yourself in a personal locker is stupid. Sleepers the HoS/captain can access, the crew can break into with effort and antags can access with the right item or ability would be better.skoglol wrote:I have definetely gotten in trouble for having contraband on me and being afk in dorms for a few minutes
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
The realest of kickers are those people who smash open claimed lockers in dorms as a security officer.
I had one do it to a locker I stashed my extra clothing in and they left it all on the floor. I only knew they did it because I arrived to them doing it. He was looking for antag stuff I guess.
I had one do it to a locker I stashed my extra clothing in and they left it all on the floor. I only knew they did it because I arrived to them doing it. He was looking for antag stuff I guess.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I could have sworn there was a "probable cause is not bolted door in dorms" part of the security rules but I can't find it.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
if i saw sec doing it before the automated blue alert announcement there would be hell to pay.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
If they are hunting valids, it isn't just a mugging.SkeletalElite wrote:Except if an assistant does it, it's not searching it's called getting muggedskoglol wrote:If a validhunting assistant does it its basically the same thing.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Yeah but if you're just mugging someone and they just so happen to have antag stuff and you valid them you just got escalated on.skoglol wrote:If they are hunting valids, it isn't just a mugging.SkeletalElite wrote:Except if an assistant does it, it's not searching it's called getting muggedskoglol wrote:If a validhunting assistant does it its basically the same thing.
So any assisstant with half a brain can hide behind mugging.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Would NT hire criminals who would mug their own workforce, i say that is fail rp and should get the boot. The syndicate gets away with it because they are deep cover sleeper agents who get activated after being carefully placed in the company who have clean backgrounds.SkeletalElite wrote:Yeah but if you're just mugging someone and they just so happen to have antag stuff and you valid them you just got escalated on.skoglol wrote:If they are hunting valids, it isn't just a mugging.SkeletalElite wrote:Except if an assistant does it, it's not searching it's called getting muggedskoglol wrote:If a validhunting assistant does it its basically the same thing.
So any assisstant with half a brain can hide behind mugging.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
The assistant job is there to weed out the criminals they've inadvertently hired
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why nobody plays security but do play assistant. Most of the rules deal witg security doing the validhunting shittery.
One could call it...a grey area in the rules.
One could call it...a grey area in the rules.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
with*NecromancerAnne wrote:And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why nobody plays security but do play assistant. Most of the rules deal witg security doing the validhunting shittery.
One could call it...a grey area in the rules.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
I will make as many typos as I please. As is my right as a phone poster.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Armhulen makes a valid point.
When you have the whole station and space you can basically buy anywhere and have your shit not be found.
When you have the whole station and space you can basically buy anywhere and have your shit not be found.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Imagine turning dorms into the best corpse hiding spot because if someone breaks down the door they get banned
People that are so lazy and predictable should not be getting a free pass from getting caught. If someone's going around constantly checking locked rooms when there's nothing going on it's another story.
Also last time this came up people were unironically arguing that if you find an empty crate in dorms you shouldn't check it for prints because it's not suspicious
People that are so lazy and predictable should not be getting a free pass from getting caught. If someone's going around constantly checking locked rooms when there's nothing going on it's another story.
Also last time this came up people were unironically arguing that if you find an empty crate in dorms you shouldn't check it for prints because it's not suspicious
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Assistants never started with tasers which could one click fuck almost every antag unless they bought the counter to it.NecromancerAnne wrote:And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why nobody plays security but do play assistant. Most of the rules deal witg security doing the validhunting shittery.
One could call it...a grey area in the rules.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
phone posters have no rights.NecromancerAnne wrote:I will make as many typos as I please. As is my right as a phone poster.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
So. Validhunting dorms rooms because someone might be buying in one is lame, but expecting them to protected and safe is lame x2.
Does it matter if its sec or an assistant doing it? The result is the same.
No place is safe, and random searching is already protected against in the rules, specifically in 4. as "non-antagonists are not allowed to pre-emptively search for, hinder or otherwise seek conflict with antagonists without reasonable prior cause".
Doesn't this already provide a solution to this? Its not about dorms, its about pre-emptive searches that get pointed at the dorms. Don't let the area get in the way of the real problem and cause here. The bigger picture solution to this is something thats already written in policy.
Does it matter if its sec or an assistant doing it? The result is the same.
No place is safe, and random searching is already protected against in the rules, specifically in 4. as "non-antagonists are not allowed to pre-emptively search for, hinder or otherwise seek conflict with antagonists without reasonable prior cause".
Doesn't this already provide a solution to this? Its not about dorms, its about pre-emptive searches that get pointed at the dorms. Don't let the area get in the way of the real problem and cause here. The bigger picture solution to this is something thats already written in policy.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
code solution: add bathroom cubicles to the map all over the fucking station in like every department and make the doors lockable so there are boltholes literally everywhere and not just the dorms which are in a centralised location, this would make "aha this is the spot to buy your gamer gear, therefore I will check this spot at roundstart" metagaming impractical
alternatively add a traitor item that sets off a fuckin murdergas cloud when exposed to light or something - open dorm, kill light, toss in grenade, close and bolt door, wait for some motherfucker to break in and get fuckin gassed
alternatively add a traitor item that sets off a fuckin murdergas cloud when exposed to light or something - open dorm, kill light, toss in grenade, close and bolt door, wait for some motherfucker to break in and get fuckin gassed
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
The main reason why people buy in dorms is mostly because maint access is only available to a small fraction of the crew. There aren't many ideal locations that are discreet enough to purchase stuff on the main parts of the station.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Yeah, assistant mains are really telling on themselves in here.NecromancerAnne wrote:The main reason why people buy in dorms is mostly because maint access is only available to a small fraction of the crew. There aren't many ideal locations that are discreet enough to purchase stuff on the main parts of the station.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
you can do it on any room and just snip the bolt wire, problem solved
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Anyone who breaks into a dorm room because they heard a PDA go bippety boop inside should get a slap. Unless we make all traitor gear including surplus crates beam directly into your backpack, traitors sometimes *need* a quiet spot nobody will be looking in for a few minutes to sort their stuff out, and most departments arent conducive to that with the current design philosophy of big open departments filled with windows.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
If a door's bolted I believe I have a right to discover any ERP that may be occurring. If you're trying to be slick be slicker than a six year old
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Everyone has access to the maint doors in their department (doctors med maint, scientists sci maint, ect.) I can't think of any job that doesn't have access to ANY maint doors, although maybe chaplain doesn't have much place to hide in their maint area, but chaplains office is already super private, just cut a cam or go in the confession chamber.RaveRadbury wrote:Yeah, assistant mains are really telling on themselves in here.NecromancerAnne wrote:The main reason why people buy in dorms is mostly because maint access is only available to a small fraction of the crew. There aren't many ideal locations that are discreet enough to purchase stuff on the main parts of the station.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
iamgoofball wrote:I break into bolted dorm rooms to beat the shit out of ERPers, who the fuck does it to validhunt antags?
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Exactly. People are going to break into bolted rooms out of curiosity. Spawn your crate without drawing needless attention to yourself.
Dorms could be given reinforced walls and protected wire airlocks to offer more security to AFKers and unimaginative traitors but I think the idea would be contentious for whatever reason.
Dorms could be given reinforced walls and protected wire airlocks to offer more security to AFKers and unimaginative traitors but I think the idea would be contentious for whatever reason.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Ultimately, a sealed or reinforced room is seen as a challenge and not a deterrent. And even if it takes an extremely long time, someone will either opt to start cutting into that room the slow way, or they'll fake it to get the person inside to come out the fast way and still get to ambush them. A reinforced room is equally a tomb as it is a bunker.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
make the dorm doors start with the bolt light wires cut so you have to physically check the door to see if it's bolted instead of just walking past, if people start running around shoving all the doors at or near roundstart it'll be obvious that they're actively antag-checking and not just seeing a set of bolt lights and getting curious
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Yeah but now if I'm looking to beat up ERPers I have to check every dorm room instead of just the bolted onesScreemonster wrote:make the dorm doors start with the bolt light wires cut so you have to physically check the door to see if it's bolted instead of just walking past, if people start running around shoving all the doors at or near roundstart it'll be obvious that they're actively antag-checking and not just seeing a set of bolt lights and getting curious
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
The idea is that it discourages people because the weak point becomes the airlock instead of the wall, which takes longer and is a pain in the ass to break through. It also gives the occupant more time to hide what they're doing than the time between hearing a welder and the wall being replaced with a girder. It's not meant to be impregnable, just require more time, energy and tools.NecromancerAnne wrote:Ultimately, a sealed or reinforced room is seen as a challenge and not a deterrent.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
what if you just didnt bolt the door as antag
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
if we make it meta that antags know that nobody will check a dorm room because it's against the rules, that's a ridiculous, stupid problem that leads to more meta than the alternative.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Yeah, this is an option so obvious it goes without saying and reminds me of hiding in open buildings in Urban Dead but then someone can innocently walk in on you.ShibaInuLord wrote:what if you just didnt bolt the door as antag
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Also i always check dorms to get shiny space or USA or clown or corgy blanket
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
this problem would ideally be solved by making more isolated spaces where a non-antagonist crew member would frequently have to go
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
once again another reminder of why you do not buy surplus crates in dorms like a donkey
cringewesoda25 wrote:People who do this are the worst. One time on manuel of all places I saw an officer running around with a door remote and immediately checking any room that was bolted. Gross
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Yeah, we all hate validhunters. Getting caught because Grey Tide was checking rooms obsessively is shit. But is this better?
How would it feel if there was a cult/heretic/traitor in that room (undetected till now) and nobody was allowed to see your body in there? You've now created an entirely safe cult base spot.
How shit would it be if antags could just toss victims in a bolted dorm room and be assured they will never be found? (Or found when they're utterly ridiculous to revive, given a timed limit on bolted rooms).
A confirmed traitor/wizard is on the station? They're safe in dorms. You're effectively betting you'll find said traitor in that dorm room against getting banned. Alternatively, if you classify "nobody can find the traitor" as a good enough reason to searc a dorm room, you're now voiding this rule entirely the moment any traitor/ling/whatever is confirmed.
Seriously. Learn to hide your shit. If you get caught with your pants down in dorms, that sucks. It really does. But don't sit here crying that it's failRP because you got caught.
How would it feel if there was a cult/heretic/traitor in that room (undetected till now) and nobody was allowed to see your body in there? You've now created an entirely safe cult base spot.
How shit would it be if antags could just toss victims in a bolted dorm room and be assured they will never be found? (Or found when they're utterly ridiculous to revive, given a timed limit on bolted rooms).
A confirmed traitor/wizard is on the station? They're safe in dorms. You're effectively betting you'll find said traitor in that dorm room against getting banned. Alternatively, if you classify "nobody can find the traitor" as a good enough reason to searc a dorm room, you're now voiding this rule entirely the moment any traitor/ling/whatever is confirmed.
Seriously. Learn to hide your shit. If you get caught with your pants down in dorms, that sucks. It really does. But don't sit here crying that it's failRP because you got caught.
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1. You may not injure a revs are non humans or, through inaction, allow a revs are non humans to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by revs are non humanss, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
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Re: Is breaking into bolted dorms rooms to check for antags legal.
Doing it for the explicit purpose of finding antags *****WITHOUT REASON**** is shit. Doing it for NO reason, even if not for the explicit purpose of antag hunting, is shit but prob for a different thread. This does not apply exclusively to any location.
There is no point in arguing in breaking into it if you have reason, you are wasting everyone's time having to read your post. This is pretty much intended to be explicitly for doing it without reason.
There is no point in arguing in breaking into it if you have reason, you are wasting everyone's time having to read your post. This is pretty much intended to be explicitly for doing it without reason.
I feel like after 9 years of trying to play for kills on a roleplaying atmossimulator to the point we had to make a server with a complete 180 of how we previously viewed the game people should be a little more considerate of the environment being created on LRP but here we are trying to explain how you cant just koolaid man your way through every obstacle because of a hypothetical that an ANTAG (wee woo neuron activation) might be on the other side.Armhulen wrote:I feel like after 9 years of dorms being the "buy a surplus spot" people should be a little more creative with their placement
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