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jackrip wrote:This has turned into the classic coders v players. coders usually think whatever oranges says, and the players usually go for the opposite of that
this implies you are playing the game and are therefore a player; but your idea of engaging with the game is just killing everyone else and then getting out of your computer chair and doing fortnite dances; but there's way more game mechanics and social interactions to be had than just turning 32x32 sprites horizontal by clicking on them and making 30 people have to alt tab for half an hour.
Another Korol victim also lol do you have a gif pfp that’s fucking cringe!
saprasam wrote:god dude you dont need to make an entire case on why you murderbone about "the good of the community" just say that it's fun as fuck to mow down entire crowds
psa: you can also substitute skill for game knowledge sometimes
communities come together when someone has died
Super Aggro Crag wrote:maybe if c*ders would make the game fun people wouldn't be tempted to murderbone
imagine if we had traitor items that weren't built around murdering people and also weren't restricted behind being a clown
chesse20 wrote:this implies you are playing the game and are therefore a player; but your idea of engaging with the game is just killing everyone else and then getting out of your computer chair and doing fortnite dances; but there's way more game mechanics and social interactions to be had than just turning 32x32 sprites horizontal by clicking on them and making 30 people have to alt tab for half an hour.
Uhhh lemme get my quote from earlier
jackrip wrote:there's just so much vitriol at this point, the admins seem to have become completely blind to everything I do that isn't murderboning. I do my job, I help new players, I make friends and I try to be an active part of the community. I murderbone, but I murderbone as painlessly as possible. Yet here I am, burned at the stake with zero evidence or stats, just pure blind hatred.
Armhulen wrote:I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics
This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"
Timonk wrote:
Wesoda25 wrote:Genuinely think they should be blacklisted.
You have clearly never seen his dick
Lower your tone with me if your tracked play time doesn't look like this:
Flatulent wrote:of course you can change religion doing it while islamic however makes you lose your head from happiness
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am
Qbmax32 is quite literally one of the dumbest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with. He has zero redeemable traits, and honestly I have to suppress my gag reflex every time he shows up in a conversation.
Malkraz wrote:YES
DRINK THE PISS QB
angelstarri wrote:qbmax is a retard
imsxz wrote:mythic please stop you’ve hit rock bottom and you KEEP DIGGING
deedubya wrote:I'll defend to the death your right to scream "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on a constant basis, but I'll also equally defend the right of people to call you a fuckin' pillock for doing it.
datorangebottle wrote:what, not having to act like customer service in a volunteer customer service position?
Here's a rebuttal: you're literally in a customer service slash celebrity position. Volunteer or not.
Malkraz wrote:can you stop posting this shit
Nalzul wrote:Fuck Blob (can you imagine how hot it would be to be gangbanged by a bunch of blobbernauts, the blob, and spores)
Wyzack wrote:qbmax your pathetic display of abhorrent burgercraft has brought shame onto the omnivores
Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate
BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.
feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing
Anonmare wrote:Each post in this thread can't settle on what it wants to be, but yet, each one is more cursed than the last.
Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread
imsxz wrote:nervore
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:By the way, the person who posted that catgirl porn on the github page was me. If anyone wants my private stash just PM me
Nervere wrote:Anything for a femoid.....
Qbopper wrote:I'm a dumb poopy butthead
CitrusGender wrote:god i love it when people feed me my own fried legs
Qbmax32 wrote:bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate
Qbmax32 wrote:bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate
(FORMER) tgmc admin (I HAVE REGAINED MY HUMAN RIGHTS)
Qbmax32 wrote:bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate
i feel pretty good about this thread we have gotten a lot accomplished. lets review
1.
Armhulen wrote:I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics
This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"
Dude I'd be totes down on making greentext harder fuck yeah
Qbmax32 wrote:bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate
i feel pretty good about this thread we have gotten a lot accomplished. lets review
1.
it got pretty good once the coders came in and started whining
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am
Qbmax32 is quite literally one of the dumbest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with. He has zero redeemable traits, and honestly I have to suppress my gag reflex every time he shows up in a conversation.
Malkraz wrote:YES
DRINK THE PISS QB
angelstarri wrote:qbmax is a retard
imsxz wrote:mythic please stop you’ve hit rock bottom and you KEEP DIGGING
deedubya wrote:I'll defend to the death your right to scream "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on a constant basis, but I'll also equally defend the right of people to call you a fuckin' pillock for doing it.
datorangebottle wrote:what, not having to act like customer service in a volunteer customer service position?
Here's a rebuttal: you're literally in a customer service slash celebrity position. Volunteer or not.
Malkraz wrote:can you stop posting this shit
Nalzul wrote:Fuck Blob (can you imagine how hot it would be to be gangbanged by a bunch of blobbernauts, the blob, and spores)
Wyzack wrote:qbmax your pathetic display of abhorrent burgercraft has brought shame onto the omnivores
Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate
BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.
feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing
Anonmare wrote:Each post in this thread can't settle on what it wants to be, but yet, each one is more cursed than the last.
Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread
imsxz wrote:nervore
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:By the way, the person who posted that catgirl porn on the github page was me. If anyone wants my private stash just PM me
Nervere wrote:Anything for a femoid.....
Qbopper wrote:I'm a dumb poopy butthead
CitrusGender wrote:god i love it when people feed me my own fried legs
TWATICUS wrote:bro stop we dont need another 'remove wiz' discussion dont mention wizard please
Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am
Qbmax32 is quite literally one of the dumbest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with. He has zero redeemable traits, and honestly I have to suppress my gag reflex every time he shows up in a conversation.
Malkraz wrote:YES
DRINK THE PISS QB
angelstarri wrote:qbmax is a retard
imsxz wrote:mythic please stop you’ve hit rock bottom and you KEEP DIGGING
deedubya wrote:I'll defend to the death your right to scream "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on a constant basis, but I'll also equally defend the right of people to call you a fuckin' pillock for doing it.
datorangebottle wrote:what, not having to act like customer service in a volunteer customer service position?
Here's a rebuttal: you're literally in a customer service slash celebrity position. Volunteer or not.
Malkraz wrote:can you stop posting this shit
Nalzul wrote:Fuck Blob (can you imagine how hot it would be to be gangbanged by a bunch of blobbernauts, the blob, and spores)
Wyzack wrote:qbmax your pathetic display of abhorrent burgercraft has brought shame onto the omnivores
Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate
BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.
feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing
Anonmare wrote:Each post in this thread can't settle on what it wants to be, but yet, each one is more cursed than the last.
Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread
imsxz wrote:nervore
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:By the way, the person who posted that catgirl porn on the github page was me. If anyone wants my private stash just PM me
Nervere wrote:Anything for a femoid.....
Qbopper wrote:I'm a dumb poopy butthead
CitrusGender wrote:god i love it when people feed me my own fried legs
Qbmax32 wrote:Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
such amazing contributions to this thread
give this man some applause people
Misdoubtful wrote:So, does murderbone make for a healthy round, or?
jackrip wrote:
TWATICUS wrote:bro stop we dont need another 'remove wiz' discussion dont mention wizard please
Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
Don't see their ckey on the graph, bruhddy
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Qbmax32 wrote:Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
such amazing contributions to this thread
give this man some applause people
better then salivating all over my keyboard during my daily hour of computer time in the psyche ward
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am
Qbmax32 is quite literally one of the dumbest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with. He has zero redeemable traits, and honestly I have to suppress my gag reflex every time he shows up in a conversation.
Malkraz wrote:YES
DRINK THE PISS QB
angelstarri wrote:qbmax is a retard
imsxz wrote:mythic please stop you’ve hit rock bottom and you KEEP DIGGING
deedubya wrote:I'll defend to the death your right to scream "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on a constant basis, but I'll also equally defend the right of people to call you a fuckin' pillock for doing it.
datorangebottle wrote:what, not having to act like customer service in a volunteer customer service position?
Here's a rebuttal: you're literally in a customer service slash celebrity position. Volunteer or not.
Malkraz wrote:can you stop posting this shit
Nalzul wrote:Fuck Blob (can you imagine how hot it would be to be gangbanged by a bunch of blobbernauts, the blob, and spores)
Wyzack wrote:qbmax your pathetic display of abhorrent burgercraft has brought shame onto the omnivores
Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate
BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.
feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing
Anonmare wrote:Each post in this thread can't settle on what it wants to be, but yet, each one is more cursed than the last.
Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread
imsxz wrote:nervore
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:By the way, the person who posted that catgirl porn on the github page was me. If anyone wants my private stash just PM me
Nervere wrote:Anything for a femoid.....
Qbopper wrote:I'm a dumb poopy butthead
CitrusGender wrote:god i love it when people feed me my own fried legs
this goes to show how unentertaining the note is compared to the actual consequences of murderbone. apparently not everyone realized that its a quote from the post we're meant to be peanutting
Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
Qbmax32 wrote:Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
such amazing contributions to this thread
give this man some applause people
better then salivating all over my keyboard during my daily hour of computer time in the psyche ward
I can't really respond as I have no fucking clue who you are
alright lets think about this
1. wizard is expected to murderbone, a non murderboning wizard is a waste of the role
2. i will start telling everyone i am a wizard round start when im antag
3. i am pure clean and untainted by your opinions of whether murdering the whole crew is good
jackrip stop trying to justify playing like a cocksucker lmao it's like trying to explain the morality of piracy, just do it if u want to but ur not "helping" anybody.
the rest of u eternally seethe about how you somehow can't beat 1 person when there's fucking 27 of you and an AI. SS13 players have some of the worst gamesense i've ever seen in any game and will often just hold W down 1 tile wide maint hallways after someone with slips and a gun then get confused when they get blasted. If all you Ghost mains do is shit ur pants in the forum u will never be able to prevent people from dumpstering you. Combat in this game is not difficult and a single well used fire extinguisher can completely cuck murderboning, not to mention all the rest of the infinitely more effective tools.
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
Honestly if murderboning is this unfun, why don't you rule 1 ban for it? Don't make it like, explicitly against the rules, since all that does is cause people to rules lawyer what is and isn't murderboning, "I promise Mr Yogmin I only killed one mime, I'm innocent", but if someone is consistently ruining the game for everyone else they should stop or be made to stop, right?
This is a social game, winning is having the most people experience an interesting story, not killing everyone 5 rounds in a row with a fireaxe.
Speaking of which, it's not a matter of what items we give people, if there is even a chance of someone getting strong gear some coked up player will roll it and kill the unaware crew. Murderboners don't succeed because none is good enough to oppose them, murderboners succeed because people don't expect to have to gear up and prepare to be jumped at any time by this one guy with an esword/powerfist/fireaxe/gun/quirky unknown tool that will be abused by everyone in 3 weeks. Changing that isn't suddenly making everyone on the station more robust, it's making everyone on the station play your game.
P.S: Fuck you arm, wizard is stupid for similar reasons
My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperials. Can you say the same?
TheFinalPotato wrote:Honestly if murderboning is this unfun, why don't you rule 1 ban for it? Don't make it like, explicitly against the rules, since all that does is cause people to rules lawyer what is and isn't murderboning, "I promise Mr Yogmin I only killed one mime, I'm innocent", but if someone is consistently ruining the game for everyone else they should stop or be made to stop, right?
That's the question I asked in the beginning of the thread but didn't get an answer to:
Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
Armhulen wrote:I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics
This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"
You're the one opting into these roles, opting into choosing to take the challenge of killing people until you die, yet not opting into taking other challenges because you only see the objective as something you pass/fail (and consequently choosing the most optimal route) when how you complete these tasks could be interesting as well.
In the murderboners defense though its more "logical" i imagine to have fun at the expense of others rather than challenging/debilitating yourself which may result in you yourself sitting out (even funnier is if you were a murderboner, regulars definitely would not let you leave alive which means you're further discouraged to debilitate/challenge yourself).
TheFinalPotato wrote:
Murderboners don't succeed because none is good enough to oppose them
No that's exactly why they succeed. You don't need comparable gear to take them on when you have such a massive difference in numbers and a single smart player can do it with tools you can find out in the open around the station. A fire extinguisher, soap, banana cream pie, flash, sunglasses and a bowman headset make anyone with combat knowledge extremely effective at, at the very least, keeping themselves alive while they inform the rest of the crew about the traitor (which they all promptly ignore because it's happening outside a 5-tile radius of them.) Keep potential problem items like the hand tele, AA cards and RD gear safe and secure and as long as you pay attention (ss13 players will never do this) then you'll always be prepared.
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
dont derail the thread to talking about wizard, at least this conversation that will lead to nothing is actually somewhat more original
Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
TWATICUS wrote:bro stop we dont need another 'remove wiz' discussion dont mention wizard please
Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.
TheFinalPotato wrote:
Murderboners don't succeed because none is good enough to oppose them
No that's exactly why they succeed. You don't need comparable gear to take them on when you have such a massive difference in numbers and a single smart player can do it with tools you can find out in the open around the station. A fire extinguisher, soap, banana cream pie, flash, sunglasses and a bowman headset make anyone with combat knowledge extremely effective at, at the very least, keeping themselves alive while they inform the rest of the crew about the traitor (which they all promptly ignore because it's happening outside a 5-tile radius of them.) Keep potential problem items like the hand tele, AA cards and RD gear safe and secure and as long as you pay attention (ss13 players will never do this) then you'll always be prepared.
You have made my point for me
My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperials. Can you say the same?
Malkraz wrote:jackrip stop trying to justify playing like a cocksucker lmao it's like trying to explain the morality of piracy, just do it if u want to but ur not "helping" anybody.
the rest of u eternally seethe about how you somehow can't beat 1 person when there's fucking 27 of you and an AI. SS13 players have some of the worst gamesense i've ever seen in any game and will often just hold W down 1 tile wide maint hallways after someone with slips and a gun then get confused when they get blasted. If all you Ghost mains do is shit ur pants in the forum u will never be able to prevent people from dumpstering you. Combat in this game is not difficult and a single well used fire extinguisher can completely cuck murderboning, not to mention all the rest of the infinitely more effective tools.
imagine if a single person had tried to dragnet or bola me
or if they had thrown a spear at me
like i said earlier bagil is just in a really bad state, no one knows how combat works and no one knows how to counter anything
their ancestors learned through trial by fire, i did as well. you think lexia black sat me down and taught me how to fight? i was killed hundreds of times. i know no one believes me, but i genuinely believe the only true way to get better is to just practice, thats how i did it. and the only way to practice surviving murder is for someone to try and murder you. that doesn't mean clicking the fastest or being the most accurate its about knowing the tools, counters, and environmental hazards at your disposal.
i know y'all want to hugbox it out and bar rp your way to safety but i promise a knowledgeable crew who understands counters and combat makes for a FAR more entertaining game. that's why everyone talks about 2018 as the bagil golden years
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jackrip wrote:like i said earlier bagil is just in a really bad state, no one knows how combat works and no one knows how to counter anything
their ancestors learned through trial by fire, i did as well. you think lexia black sat me down and taught me how to fight? i was killed hundreds of times. i know no one believes me, but i genuinely believe the only true way to get better is to just practice, thats how i did it. and the only way to practice surviving murder is for someone to try and murder you. that doesn't mean clicking the fastest or being the most accurate its about knowing the tools, counters, and environmental hazards at your disposal.
"people made the game shitty for me so i make it shitty for others"
pack it up folks, thread over, nothing of value left here
not that there ever was
Armhulen wrote:I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics
This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"
You're the one opting into these roles, opting into choosing to take the challenge of killing people until you die, yet not opting into taking other challenges because you only see the objective as something you pass/fail (and consequently choosing the most optimal route) when how you complete these tasks could be interesting as well.
In the murderboners defense though its more "logical" i imagine to have fun at the expense of others rather than challenging/debilitating yourself which may result in you yourself sitting out (even funnier is if you were a murderboner, regulars definitely would not let you leave alive which means you're further discouraged to debilitate/challenge yourself).
there is no greater challenge than the extermination of all life
if jackrip was a bad faith actor posting this shit with the intent of rallying as many people as possible against murderboning i'd say he's done a fantastic job with all this shit he's said.