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A dude got iced because he uncovered a weirdo fucking kid that wanted adults to virtually fiddle them, and apparently you punished the dude for doing the right thing and then let the kid run free. But from the analogies you're giving out here, you're painting a picture of this guy recklessly ruining that kids entire life by spilling out every secret that he knows about him, which based on the appeal that was written, is not true and framing him in a terrible way.
Is it then understandable if there is a bit of confusion here in the room, perhaps also partially directed at your competency as janitors? Is it OK to want honest answers to this confusion and not get double the gaslighting, or does this still make you a "pot stirrer"?
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MortoSasye wrote:I'm biting my nails on this topic because I can't say anything without leaking adminbus
Same, honestly.
EDIT: While my original point stands on why I dislike "sorry bro but muh adminbus leaks", it is unrelated actually.
oranges wrote:I don't think anyone disagrees that the person should have received some correction, I think we just dispute the length and nature of it.
Yeah. EDIT: Eh, I contradicted what I said afterwards so nevermind my previous point.
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i'd imagine morto was an admin around the time the original appeal happened given that she was the one who made the final post and presumably locked it.
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BeeSting12 wrote:i'd imagine morto was an admin around the time the original appeal happened given that she was the one who made the final post and presumably locked it.
Time ban was placed: 2020/11/03 11:09:40
Alright, fair point if that's the case. My bad since I assumed this happened relatively recently lol
BeeSting12 wrote:i'd imagine morto was an admin around the time the original appeal happened given that she was the one who made the final post and presumably locked it.
Ya, I was an admin and there was a lot of discussion on adminbus around the time iirc
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Also it's actually to avoid being banned for leaking adminbus
BONERMASTER wrote:A dude got iced because he uncovered a weirdo fucking kid that wanted adults to virtually fiddle them, and apparently you punished the dude for doing the right thing and then let the kid run free. But from the analogies you're giving out here, you're painting a picture of this guy recklessly ruining that kids entire life by spilling out every secret that he knows about him, which based on the appeal that was written, is not true and framing him in a terrible way.
Is it then understandable if there is a bit of confusion here in the room, perhaps also partially directed at your competency as janitors? Is it OK to want honest answers to this confusion and not get double the gaslighting, or does this still make you a "pot stirrer"?
I'm sorry you feel this way, its certainly on my writing style here.
My analogies were aimed at how the use of discretion could have avoided this completely and any other drama about it. Specifically on poor decisions and judgments being made between the two involved. The entire thing was an avoidable tragedy that could have been avoided with the use of discretion. In this case, by not posting discrete information in a public space (A public Discord) that is meant to be private where pot stirrers would only become enabled by it (Starting that bar fire and others fanning the flames).
All they had to do was quietly tell the bar staff, not say it from on top of a bar table, because doing that and making it into a fuss might just get them kicked out too.
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Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
I've seen and heard multiple times tg jannies baiting or letting people bait themselves into doxxing their own age on tgstation Discord in voice and text so they can be perma-banned.
This ban reminds me of cybersecurity responsible disclosure lol.
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Misdoubtful wrote:
I was agreeing with your quote and using it as a response to their 'And?' (why type what someone else already did, right?). Someone going around talking to and telling people about it would be stirring the pot and creating drama.
my apologies then, it seems like the severe amount of brain rot that I've developed from being a politics-containment shitposter has progressed beyond reasonable levels
I'm used to people quoting me to call me a denthead :shrug:
anyway, to restate what's already been said here, I'm honestly shocked by the instant "it's not happening while I'm headmin, get fucked, die"-tier response from coco on this
doxxing or not a hard no like that's rare to see and I'm amazed that it's handed to a case where someone just... didn't want to be in a relationship with a kid, and then answered that when someone asked them why they broke up.
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Misdoubtful wrote:
I was agreeing with your quote and using it as a response to their 'And?' (why type what someone else already did, right?). Someone going around talking to and telling people about it would be stirring the pot and creating drama.
my apologies then, it seems like the severe amount of brain rot that I've developed from being a politics-containment shitposter has progressed beyond reasonable levels
I'm used to people quoting me to call me a denthead :shrug:
It's okay I had plenty of brain rot yesterday and mistyped/misspoke.
the ban reason doesnt paint the picture correctly (hence why girls on here are soft-leaking that there is something they arent allowed to say) so this person will probably be unbanned later because no one can properly remember the situation and it isnt fully reflected in their reason.
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ooh boy zero transparency secret jannie channel knowledge that will not ever be stated just hinted at
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Cobby wrote:the ban reason doesnt paint the picture correctly (hence why girls on here are soft-leaking that there is something they arent allowed to say) so this person will probably be unbanned later because no one can properly remember the situation.
that's dumb though. a person has a right to defend themselves and if the ban reason's incorrect then what's the point of providing one? if coconut said "hey you know the doxxing was much worse than that", then i would assume the guy did dox him beyond revealing his age (which i dont even consider doxxing) and the ban's probably valid even if no more can be revealed without risking the guy's personal info. as far as i can tell, coconut has never implied that there was anything else to it, just that what the guy said he did was much worse than the guy thinks.
he revealed someone's age online in a nonmalicious manner after the person outright told him their age. the way i see it, he did the right thing by ending his relationship with that person and i dont see why he shouldnt be able to explain why that relationship ended so suddenly to others. it's one's own responsibility to keep their information safe online to a certain point. i'd say that not telling people personally identifiable info they don't want others to hear falls within that responsibility. it would be a lot different if the mey tracked down the kid's instagram or facebook or whatever, but that's not what happened.
i understand doxxing is a really sensitive topic because no one wants their personal lives brought into spessmens but i think it's also important to keep our heads and stay reasonable about this. even if what he did was wrong, which i dont think it was to the extent that coconut claims, he's obviously learned his lesson and it happened in such a niche case that i doubt it'll happen again. please note that im saying all of this under the assumption mey is telling the truth, which i feel is a safe assumption considering the fact nobody's contradicted him about the what the actions were, just the perceived severity of them.
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Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
plead guilty to two counts, one of distribution and receipt of child pornography and one of traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor—specifically, from Indiana to New York City, where he is charged with paying to engage in sexual acts with a 17-year-old girl.
Prosecutors alleged that Fogle offered adult prostitutes a finder's fee to find him younger sex partners.
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plead guilty to two counts, one of distribution and receipt of child pornography and one of traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor—specifically, from Indiana to New York City, where he is charged with paying to engage in sexual acts with a 17-year-old girl.
Prosecutors alleged that Fogle offered adult prostitutes a finder's fee to find him younger sex partners.
did u know he tried to do the sovereign citizen defense in court
Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
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Cobby wrote:the ban reason doesnt paint the picture correctly (hence why girls on here are soft-leaking that there is something they arent allowed to say) so this person will probably be unbanned later because no one can properly remember the situation and it isnt fully reflected in their reason.
I just don't remember what is and isn't common knowledge about it, so I try to only reference what's in both ban appeals.
That boiled down to, ending a friendship due to age, cool, reasonable. Ending a friendship while also catching things on fire (intentionally or otherwise), not so cool.
If the smaller details aren't there, I'm not really going to bring them up. I respect people's confidentiality and privacy.
Misdoubtful wrote:
That boiled down to, ending a friendship due to age, cool, reasonable. Ending a friendship while also catching things on fire (intentionally or otherwise), not so cool.
So being dramatic is worth an unappealable permanent ban?
They left out cringe no one is going to bring up and will be lost when they appeal later.
My take on it is that if the details mattered enough to keep them banned then it’s stupid to not include in the reason because it’s very possible it gets lost. Don’t have to go into details regarding anything but the thing holding back the unban being accepted.
Mfw we don’t even have public bans yet so who cares what you put into the reason.
They left out cringe no one is going to bring up and will be lost when they appeal later.
My take on it is that if the details mattered enough to keep them banned then it’s stupid to not include in the reason because it’s very possible it gets lost. Don’t have to go into details regarding anything but the thing holding back the unban being accepted.
Mfw we don’t even have public bans yet so who cares what you put into the reason.
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Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
They left out cringe no one is going to bring up and will be lost when they appeal later.
My take on it is that if the details mattered enough to keep them banned then it’s stupid to not include in the reason because it’s very possible it gets lost. Don’t have to go into details regarding anything but the thing holding back the unban being accepted.
Mfw we don’t even have public bans yet so who cares what you put into the reason.
I'm pretty interested in what things will look like for this when they do appeal this in that years time.