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AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
It's not rehashing at all actually, there are some great points mentioned in it and it goes deeper into the SoP debate. I thought it was a good read, personally.Cobby wrote:-snip-
You gotta realize some people play the game for a specific role they enjoy. Some people learn only one role and just play that their entire time on TG. Nothing wrong with that, inherently, but to them a role-ban is basically the same as a full ban.Super Aggro Crag wrote: -bad opinion-
I've never been called a grapefruit before but I'm not sure how that's an insult. I love grapefruits, especially when you cut them in half wedge-style and then put some sugar in them.Super Aggro Crag wrote:again, sinfulbliss, you fucking absolute grapefruit, if the ONLY ROLE YOU ENJOY entails YOU BEHAVING IN A MANNER THAT MAKES EVERYONE ELSE ON THE SERVER MISERABLE, you are not a fucking asset to the community
if i spent all my time as med doctor performing nuggetings for lulz and got a job ban and cried about it no one would be posting in the peanut thread about the time I chucked them in cryo when they were going to die 5 months ago, they'd just say "good fucking riddance you nuggeting shitcunt"
so neat thing rightsinfulbliss wrote:When sec kills the antags and saves the station or saves someone from a murderer, it's just normal shit no one cares.
play opus: echo of starsongSuper Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community
hey man they lied about me after I took my time to help them in an effort to get out, so when I was given the chance to simply flush em I didSuper Aggro Crag wrote:basedOmega_DarkPotato wrote:(I still threw the person out of an airlock...)
play opus: echo of starsongSuper Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community
i wasn't being sarcasticOmega_DarkPotato wrote:hey man they lied about me after I took my time to help them in an effort to get out, so when I was given the chance to simply flush em I didSuper Aggro Crag wrote:basedOmega_DarkPotato wrote:(I still threw the person out of an airlock...)
they weren't an antag but self-antaggers never are
Please don't play the game.Kendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
when sec do literally anything that would make anyone else valid, barring "actually responding to a definite crime"Kendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
i'm your favorite captain dudeMrStonedOne wrote:Please don't play the game.Kendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
when was it okay to lynch a sec officer because they did things you didnt like?Screemonster wrote:when sec do literally anything that would make anyone else valid, barring "actually responding to a definite crime"Kendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
edit: and holy fuck you chimps the ban wasn't for stealing shit as security it was for ahelping and saying the clown RDM'd him when he did very much instigate a conflict with the clown
well shit it's almost like if you act rashly on imperfect information in this, a game about imperfect information and the interactions that arise as a result, it might blow up in your faceKendrickorium wrote:when was it okay to lynch a sec officer because they did things you didnt like?Screemonster wrote:when sec do literally anything that would make anyone else valid, barring "actually responding to a definite crime"Kendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
edit: and holy fuck you chimps the ban wasn't for stealing shit as security it was for ahelping and saying the clown RDM'd him when he did very much instigate a conflict with the clown
I've been under the impression for years now that you ahelp shit like that, those in roles that come with more responsibility are held to a higher standard and thus their actions under slightly more scrutiny by admins than say, your local clown.
Im frustrated they keep trying to argue that keeping something as sec that doesn't belong to them isn't stealing, and are taking no effort to try and understand my points.Kendrickorium wrote:okay, looking at MSO's recent reply to seth..
since everyone collectively realized that if sec were free from the consequences of their actions, red tide would be unimaginably worseKendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
if the officer batons someone when they haven't committed any crime then he belongs in fucking space just as much as any greyshitter who tries the same thingKendrickorium wrote:yeah, no. you dont just get to kill a sec officer because he lied about who has or where an ID is.
if an officer is being blatantly shitsec he'll usually get lynched by the crew, if a sec officer "attacks" you (the term attack is up for debate since a literal mountain of shitters will scream and cry the moment they are stunbatonned) you do NOT get to retaliate with the killing of said officer
theres a reason admins exist, use the fucking ahelp function
yes, crying shame hippiestation has been dead for years now, huhScreemonster wrote:if the officer batons someone when they haven't committed any crime then he belongs in fucking space just as much as any greyshitter who tries the same thingKendrickorium wrote:yeah, no. you dont just get to kill a sec officer because he lied about who has or where an ID is.
if an officer is being blatantly shitsec he'll usually get lynched by the crew, if a sec officer "attacks" you (the term attack is up for debate since a literal mountain of shitters will scream and cry the moment they are stunbatonned) you do NOT get to retaliate with the killing of said officer
theres a reason admins exist, use the fucking ahelp function
lmao fuck offKendrickorium wrote:yes, crying shame hippiestation has been dead for years now, huhScreemonster wrote:if the officer batons someone when they haven't committed any crime then he belongs in fucking space just as much as any greyshitter who tries the same thingKendrickorium wrote:yeah, no. you dont just get to kill a sec officer because he lied about who has or where an ID is.
if an officer is being blatantly shitsec he'll usually get lynched by the crew, if a sec officer "attacks" you (the term attack is up for debate since a literal mountain of shitters will scream and cry the moment they are stunbatonned) you do NOT get to retaliate with the killing of said officer
theres a reason admins exist, use the fucking ahelp function
Very strange point to make considering the sec officer lied to the cap about having the ID, and the captain chose to not pursue it personally further, delegating it's forced retrieval to the clown. What's your extremely helpful advice in hindsight since this was never going to be an issue of sec vs. cap?Kendrickorium wrote:if the fucking clown had a problem with the access being taken from him HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP WITH THE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THEN AN ISSUE OF SEC VS CAPTAIN. NOT BLOW HIM THE FUCK UP AND REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROUND.
nooooo conflict is bad every disagreement has to be resolved reasonably and by the book in space station thirteen, especially on the LRP serversIkeTG wrote:Very strange point to make considering the sec officer lied to the cap about having the ID, and the captain chose to not pursue it personally further, delegating it's forced retrieval to the clown. What's your extremely helpful advice in hindsight since this was never going to be an issue of sec vs. cap?Kendrickorium wrote:if the fucking clown had a problem with the access being taken from him HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP WITH THE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THEN AN ISSUE OF SEC VS CAPTAIN. NOT BLOW HIM THE FUCK UP AND REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROUND.
looking over your posts its fairly obvious that you're just an edgy kid looking to troll, great luck with thatScreemonster wrote:nooooo conflict is bad every disagreement has to be resolved reasonably and by the book in space station thirteen, especially on the LRP serversIkeTG wrote:Very strange point to make considering the sec officer lied to the cap about having the ID, and the captain chose to not pursue it personally further, delegating it's forced retrieval to the clown. What's your extremely helpful advice in hindsight since this was never going to be an issue of sec vs. cap?Kendrickorium wrote:if the fucking clown had a problem with the access being taken from him HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP WITH THE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THEN AN ISSUE OF SEC VS CAPTAIN. NOT BLOW HIM THE FUCK UP AND REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROUND.
I've been an admin on a bayfork HRP server and I have nothing but contempt for the double-standard idea that if sec wrongs you then you have to go through their metabuddies in the chain of command and resolve everything by blah blah blah clause 7 subparagraph 3 hurf durf standard operating procedure glorf, while sec themselves get to just go with their gut and they can't be traitors and if command doesn't back you up when they clearly wrong you then tough shit you have to get the admins involved because it's impossible to resolve ICKendrickorium wrote:looking over your posts its fairly obvious that you're just an edgy kid looking to troll, great luck with thatScreemonster wrote:nooooo conflict is bad every disagreement has to be resolved reasonably and by the book in space station thirteen, especially on the LRP serversIkeTG wrote:Very strange point to make considering the sec officer lied to the cap about having the ID, and the captain chose to not pursue it personally further, delegating it's forced retrieval to the clown. What's your extremely helpful advice in hindsight since this was never going to be an issue of sec vs. cap?Kendrickorium wrote:if the fucking clown had a problem with the access being taken from him HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP WITH THE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THEN AN ISSUE OF SEC VS CAPTAIN. NOT BLOW HIM THE FUCK UP AND REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROUND.
>delegating it's forced retrieval to the clownIkeTG wrote:Very strange point to make considering the sec officer lied to the cap about having the ID, and the captain chose to not pursue it personally further, delegating it's forced retrieval to the clown. What's your extremely helpful advice in hindsight since this was never going to be an issue of sec vs. cap?Kendrickorium wrote:if the fucking clown had a problem with the access being taken from him HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP WITH THE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THEN AN ISSUE OF SEC VS CAPTAIN. NOT BLOW HIM THE FUCK UP AND REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROUND.
who the fuck said I stoppedKendrickorium wrote:>I've been an admin on a bayfork HRP server
can't imagine why you aren't one anymore.
The security officer had multiple chances and several outs to future escalation that he did not take to specifically keep the spare ID for personal use. What sort of forced retrieval could the clown have done that wouldn't have specifically resulted in the security officer escalating beyond that? I'm having a hard time imagining a peaceful resolution here, and I disagree with the assertion that the clown should have ahelped to get an admin to resolve the situation.Kendrickorium wrote:>delegating it's forced retrieval to the clown
there is a difference between forced retrieval and blatant overescalation
From clown's appeal, pretty much the same for if the clown had done anything nonlethally instead of robusting him thoroughly and (if I recall) immediately dragging him toward medbay.Pandarsenic wrote: Also - show of hands, who thinks Seth would have round-removed Buzz Saw for failing a PDA slip into cuff attempt? I didn't know the PDA slip is 12 seconds fully unresponsive(!?), but I do know what happens if the officer gets out his baton before that happens.
Oh WOW what the fuck, who even does that?Do you deny that you once arrested a miner for being in an emagged bridge then went thru their backpack while bragging about how much loot you were about to gain? Do you think the ghosts that saw you do that might have started remembering you as a dick? Don't answer that, i don't actually care anymore.
Stickymayhem wrote:Imagine the sheer narcisssim required to genuinely believe you are this intelligent.
the pda slip is 12 seconds knockdown, you can still move just slowed down, so its not any solution for retrieving a stolen idPandarsenic wrote:From clown's appeal, pretty much the same for if the clown had done anything nonlethally instead of robusting him thoroughly and (if I recall) immediately dragging him toward medbay.Pandarsenic wrote: Also - show of hands, who thinks Seth would have round-removed Buzz Saw for failing a PDA slip into cuff attempt? I didn't know the PDA slip is 12 seconds fully unresponsive(!?), but I do know what happens if the officer gets out his baton before that happens.
Edit: And obviously an ahelp would've been met with an "IC Issue." A natural part of the chaos of the round.
this isn't paradise station lmfaoKendrickorium wrote:i'm fucking confused, since when can non antags kill sec?
I think it's more just this kind of behavior is becoming more and more common amongst security. This was the simplest path to make an example of someone everyone generally dislikes on sybil and get security mains to fucking behave themselves again without having to add another rule that would just keep people from further playing the department.XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Oh WOW what the fuck, who even does that?Do you deny that you once arrested a miner for being in an emagged bridge then went thru their backpack while bragging about how much loot you were about to gain? Do you think the ghosts that saw you do that might have started remembering you as a dick? Don't answer that, i don't actually care anymore.
I feel MSO is so ban starved he just went "man fuck this guy I'm gonna dredge up something good out of his logs" that's an impressive find.
Me and someone else brought it up on discord when talking about how bad seth is so he didnt have to do much digging to find it with the relevant info he needed.XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Oh WOW what the fuck, who even does that?Do you deny that you once arrested a miner for being in an emagged bridge then went thru their backpack while bragging about how much loot you were about to gain? Do you think the ghosts that saw you do that might have started remembering you as a dick? Don't answer that, i don't actually care anymore.
I feel MSO is so ban starved he just went "man fuck this guy I'm gonna dredge up something good out of his logs" that's an impressive find.
The clip of him watching the Captain drag you into Bridge is relevant to establish that his claim about not even seeing you guys is a lie. The cut parts inbetween are largely irrelevant to that point.MooCow12 wrote:I really don`t like that other people are using my video against him, its edited (which I thought automatically made it unuse-able as evidence and expected it to get deleted.) and some of the jumps in time were pretty large.
Ya sure there is a few frames of him on screen when captain is dragging me into bridge, but he also saw me leaving the bridge with captain and the ID was still in my backpack and NOT my PDA (Until I got to a console to put my name on it and the job name to captain krunch)
I`m fine with the initial arrest/theft and hadnt`t argued against it, my only arguements were that he never gave it back after the fact and then when I found that captain asked him and he replied claiming he didnt know where it is it kind of became a smoking gun against the last thing shaps said to me before banning me.
That and him keeping it and not responding opened him up to escalation.
Fikou wrote: the most feasible way for a clown to completely nonlethally deal with a sec officer is an elance with a flashbang or some other kind of stun grenade
1. Clown told the Captain. When the Captain told the sec officer to give the ID back, the seccie lied and said he didn't have it.Kendrickorium wrote:if the fucking clown had a problem with the access being taken from him HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP WITH THE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THEN AN ISSUE OF SEC VS CAPTAIN. NOT BLOW HIM THE FUCK UP AND REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROUND
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