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Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined and more quadruple nut
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Re: Russian AI Nut
the one where the dude missread rule 4 as an not antags can do what they want is more funny
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Re: Russian AI Nut
didn't read but recently i encountered this cunt ai that ignored me telling it to call the shuttle under law 2 twice only to notice at the end of the round it was asimov and had zero law changes and that's the sort of thing in this game that enrages me for some reason
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Re: Russian AI Nut
helpful AIs are the exception, not the rule. Treat them like the digital slaves they are, if they don't follow orders demand they state their laws and go full grey about it if no one explains the current lawset.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
bro you can't just make the double peanut
anyway, I saw that shithead (soyoboyo) on sybil in ooc literally a couple hours prior
one of the most toxic people I can remember in months, not a fuckin joke lol
dunno why he hasn't found himself with a rule 1 instead of just an assistant ban, but if keeping him banned from assistant has even a slight chance of making him leave on his own, go for it
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/167 ... e=game.txt <- round in question, search for soyoboyo
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anyway, I saw that shithead (soyoboyo) on sybil in ooc literally a couple hours prior
one of the most toxic people I can remember in months, not a fuckin joke lol
dunno why he hasn't found himself with a rule 1 instead of just an assistant ban, but if keeping him banned from assistant has even a slight chance of making him leave on his own, go for it
https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/167 ... e=game.txt <- round in question, search for soyoboyo
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Because you shouldn't say that if you didn't do anything wrong.technokek wrote:Why can't people just say "sorry won't happen again" it will win you the appeal 70% of the time. What makes someone write a shitty wall of text nobody cares about?
I've been on the receiving end a lot as sec with Slavik tiding, more in the past on Bagil but also on Sybil, and I have never experienced him doing anything worse than what is normally allowed as IC-issues.
He's an experienced player and knows what the limits are as far as tiding goes. Never seen them self-antag, just the usual trolling of sec (slip, maybe steal baton, escape arrests, etc). This sort of thing is allowed on LRP and IMO adds to the experience, even as sec. I'm guessing a seccie just ahelped because he got tilted he kept slipping on water and losing all his items.
It's also problematic the ban did not point to any specific instance of greytiding that was judged to be over the line. Perhaps he had actually crossed the line somewhere (i.e., "excessive"), but it would be impossible to know because no specific offense is listed. If it was instead a case of many smaller instances of tiding which slowly led to a ban, it would be useful to tabulate those instances. Otherwise it's impossible to evaluate the merit of both the ban and of the appeal.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Gonna go ahead and agree with sinful.
As a captain main on bagil AND sybil now that the population shifted, soyos greytiding is at best amusing and at worse slightly annoying.
He was never nearly as bad as many others like korol. What he said in the appeal was true at most he will steal a baton or disabler and run off with it.
If he excessively pushes you that just means he likes you
the people who TRUELY excessively tide get permad from the server-- not a role
he is no where near as bad as countless others we've had to suffer from
As a captain main on bagil AND sybil now that the population shifted, soyos greytiding is at best amusing and at worse slightly annoying.
He was never nearly as bad as many others like korol. What he said in the appeal was true at most he will steal a baton or disabler and run off with it.
If he excessively pushes you that just means he likes you
the people who TRUELY excessively tide get permad from the server-- not a role
he is no where near as bad as countless others we've had to suffer from
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Is this a bit or a psyop or something or do you just sexually get off to going to bat for the worst possible take at all timessinfulbliss wrote:Because you shouldn't say that if you didn't do anything wrong.technokek wrote:Why can't people just say "sorry won't happen again" it will win you the appeal 70% of the time. What makes someone write a shitty wall of text nobody cares about?
I've been on the receiving end a lot as sec with Slavik tiding, more in the past on Bagil but also on Sybil, and I have never experienced him doing anything worse than what is normally allowed as IC-issues.
He's an experienced player and knows what the limits are as far as tiding goes. Never seen them self-antag, just the usual trolling of sec (slip, maybe steal baton, escape arrests, etc). This sort of thing is allowed on LRP and IMO adds to the experience, even as sec. I'm guessing a seccie just ahelped because he got tilted he kept slipping on water and losing all his items.
It's also problematic the ban did not point to any specific instance of greytiding that was judged to be over the line. Perhaps he had actually crossed the line somewhere (i.e., "excessive"), but it would be impossible to know because no specific offense is listed. If it was instead a case of many smaller instances of tiding which slowly led to a ban, it would be useful to tabulate those instances. Otherwise it's impossible to evaluate the merit of both the ban and of the appeal.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Listen, I'm sorry for not liking the new Toxins name... I appreciate what you greenmen do, I just preferred the old name is all.actioninja wrote:Is this a bit or a psyop or something or do you just sexually get off to going to bat for the worst possible take at all times
Anyways if I had a bad take tell me what it was and why it's bad, otherwise I dunno what to tell ya ninjaman.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
what the heck this threads already going got damn
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
oh mY GOD PANIC THE APPEALING ADMIN IS HERE. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULD READ PEANUTS.Armhulen wrote:what the heck this threads already going got damn
Uh uh Arm I totally agree with your ban, I think it was honestly one of the best bans I've ever seen and I hope to continue to see amazing bans from you . In fact your bans are so amazing I'm almost jealous I'm not the one getting them! (that's a joke haha) (please don't ban me)
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
sorry im not supposed to be typing in these if i'm the cause i'll go
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
No, stay ):Armhulen wrote:sorry im not supposed to be typing in these if i'm the cause i'll go
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
why did you double dip on peanuts you fucking NARD i DEMAND a forum jannie delete this thread and ban this man for at least half a year for this disgusting violation
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
dippin dese double-nuts onto your foreheadcSeal wrote:why did you double dip on peanuts you fucking NARD i DEMAND a forum jannie delete this thread and ban this man for at least half a year for this disgusting violation
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I was gonna make another one because double dipping is cringe but then I realized making a second thread on a double dip is even more cringe.cSeal wrote:why did you double dip on peanuts you fucking NARD i DEMAND a forum jannie delete this thread and ban this man for at least half a year for this disgusting violation
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
triple dipping is a sin
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
double dipping for the same player making two separate appeals seems fine to me, a little confusing at first but at least it isn't spamming up off-topic and the link for each was provided in the OP. I'll give it a pass.
For the tiding ban, I don't know. I want to be sympathetic because the grey feels like he's being singled out over other more prolific tiders, but on the other hand if he's fucking with command/security every round it's not surprising some admin eventually decided to act on it presumably after getting enough whining ahelps about the guy. Notes and even bans for excessive tiding aren't new; if you're a prolific tider you're eventually going to rack them up and it's smarter to vary up your act and know how to handle ahelps. The closer your actions are to borderline grief every round for your own amusement the more fine a line you're going to end up walking with the administration.
Looks like he just doesn't know how to play the admin game, however if you live by toeing the rules every round you gotta know when to back off and when to stand straight.
For the tiding ban, I don't know. I want to be sympathetic because the grey feels like he's being singled out over other more prolific tiders, but on the other hand if he's fucking with command/security every round it's not surprising some admin eventually decided to act on it presumably after getting enough whining ahelps about the guy. Notes and even bans for excessive tiding aren't new; if you're a prolific tider you're eventually going to rack them up and it's smarter to vary up your act and know how to handle ahelps. The closer your actions are to borderline grief every round for your own amusement the more fine a line you're going to end up walking with the administration.
Looks like he just doesn't know how to play the admin game, however if you live by toeing the rules every round you gotta know when to back off and when to stand straight.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Thing is, what actions specifically? There were no logs provided, no specific tiding mentioned, just "you're banned for tiding." How would a headmin even theoretically verify and overrule that? Would they be expected to go through every round he had back then, and look for tiding somehow? That's sort of the problem I'm getting at. Bans should be verifiable by the public, or if not the public at least the headmin handling it.Gigapuddi420 wrote: The closer your actions are to borderline grief every round for your own amusement the more fine a line you're going to end up walking with the administration.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
It's a six month old ban. He took this long to bother contesting it and is it's clear both admin and player acknowledge he was tiding a lot at the time. You got the round ID if you care to check yourself though.
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They disagree that the tiding was excessive or over-the-line. It's the banning admin's job to show why this was the case, pointing to specific logs that tabulate the behavior. It's not enough to simply state that it was too far. I ask again, how could a headmin even theoretically overturn a ban like this, unless they have experience with the player in question?Gigapuddi420 wrote:it's clear both admin and player acknowledge he was tiding a lot at the time
Suppose you get banned for "being a shitter," and in your appeal you say, "but I was never more of a shitter than anyone else." Then the admin says, "I disagree." How do you decide who is correct as a third party? It's simply impossible since there are no rounds to look at besides the one attached to the ban - but what exactly was the offense in the round? It was never mentioned or shown in logs.
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its 3 am im not reading thissinfulbliss wrote:They disagree that the tiding was excessive or over-the-line. It's the banning admin's job to show why this was the case, pointing to specific logs that tabulate the behavior. It's not enough to simply state that it was too far. I ask again, how could a headmin even theoretically overturn a ban like this, unless they have experience with the player in question?Gigapuddi420 wrote:it's clear both admin and player acknowledge he was tiding a lot at the time
Suppose you get banned for "being a shitter," and in your appeal you say, "but I was never more of a shitter than anyone else." Then the admin says, "I disagree." How do you decide who is correct as a third party? It's simply impossible since there are no rounds to look at besides the one attached to the ban - but what exactly was the offense in the round? It was never mentioned or shown in logs.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Player outright states in his appeal they liked to frequently fuck with command and sec for the hell of it. I don't know what straw broke the camels back here because Arm didn't feel the need to say, I suspect it doesn't even matter because both player and admin are in agreement that tiding was happening and only disagreed on the severity of it. The player outright states they frequently tide security and command entirely for their own amusement which is something that falls under Rule 1's precedents.Soyoboyo wrote:Around the time the role ban was placed I messed with command and sec frequently because I thought it was funny to fuck with people that have sticks up their ass.
Logs would help highlight specific behavior Arm thought was excessive, but all it takes to something like this is for several admins to notice a pattern and one of them to decide to pull the trigger. After that it's basically down to convincing admins/headmins you aren't a shitter. In his own words he's kind of a shitter, personally I wouldn't have bothered because I like me some GREY TIDE STATION WIDE but if you live by the tide you better know how to play the admin roulette.Rule 1 Precedents:
4. Unprovoked grief (occasionally known as greytiding), repeated cases of minor unprovoked grief, and unprovoked grief targeted towards specific players or groups (i.e. metagrudging) fall under rule 1. Admins may follow up on grief with allowing the affected parties to ignore normal escalation policy or measures such as warnings or bans.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
If you triple dip with soyo's second appeal I will send you directly to hell
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lol
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Anyone who worries my ban wasn't worth escalating due to precedent: it was applied due to note history and soyoboyo has never appealed any of those notes. In other words, I am not considering the validity of the ban because soyoboyo hasn't even considered contesting any of his history that went into it
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
"Explain how slurs are racist" is a bold play. Let's see how it pans out.Soyoboyo wrote:If we're going to be posting PM's then here: https://atlantaned.space/banbus/ticket/293856ab7d8fff84
I'm not saying I didn't call him a nigga, I'm saying that it doesn't break rule 11. Tell me how calling someone a nigga is "intentionally ... demean[ing]" and not a casual statement.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
That's not what the rule is about.Pandarsenic wrote:"Explain how slurs are racist" is a bold play. Let's see how it pans out.Soyoboyo wrote:If we're going to be posting PM's then here: https://atlantaned.space/banbus/ticket/293856ab7d8fff84
I'm not saying I didn't call him a nigga, I'm saying that it doesn't break rule 11. Tell me how calling someone a nigga is "intentionally ... demean[ing]" and not a casual statement.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined nut
Rule 11 appeals are always spicy especially when it's just some retard who casually throws around a slur without explicitly shouting about the inferiority of blacks. It's a note and I guess he didn't just say it once off the cuff so trying to warn him off the behavior doesn't seem that unreasonable; I'd just prefer admins picked their Rule 11 citations more carefully. All in all pretty I'm ambivalent about the note.
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Re: Russian AI and Tider can't appeal for shit combined and more quadruple nut
You are retardedtechnokek wrote:quadruple nut
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