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Re: Beardbeard peanut
coulda fooled me into thinking its youSuper Aggro Crag wrote:Memetic shitlord comes back and promises not to be bad this time
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
i'm not memetic though im actually a vile personterranaut wrote:coulda fooled me into thinking its youSuper Aggro Crag wrote:Memetic shitlord comes back and promises not to be bad this time
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
Crag, nobody is above the law. Provide the link with the peanut, or you will be banned!
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- Super Aggro Crag
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
i link it to farquaar cuz he has the heart of a true warriorFarquaar wrote:Carg link the thread or you'll get beaned
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ead#unread
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
He was banned seven years ago give him a chance
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
He was unbanned in 2018 and then rebanned soon aftee I believe, not sure on this last part
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
he was unbanned in 2018 and permabanned a month later for intentionally delaminating the superb matter engine. in about 10 months time after this event there was an error with the ban database so he took the opportunity to ban evade on event hallsAnuv wrote:He was banned seven years ago give him a chance
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
There was a round on Sigyn (short-lived low rule server) in like 2012 where he murdered a cargo tech as captain because he wanted to save up points to order a collectible hat crate. He also had a reference on one of the drinks, but it got redacted for some reason, which just made the name look worse. He should be unbanned, because it would be funny and cool and he would get banned again almost immediately.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
>do anything to show you won't grief when unbannedAnuv wrote:He was banned seven years ago give him a chance
>message read: 2018
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
locking threads for no good reason is cringe why does vekter keep doing that
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
he has the big dick admin powers, he has to use em
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
why even appeal after literally 10 years its more likely you changed house, isp, laptop so you can just connect with beardbeard2 at this point
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
he knows he'd never get a single vote for headmin so he's been inserting himself into as many appeals as possible and trying to take control of themnulladept wrote:locking threads for no good reason is cringe why does vekter keep doing that
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
Let me save you some trouble - 2beard posted asking to come back, we said no. /threadFarquaar wrote:you forgot the link, lad
I locked it because 2beard appeals always bring a lot of discussion and tend to go off the rails pretty easily. Like I said, nothing good comes from that thread being unlocked. We can talk about it here just fine.nulladept wrote:locking threads for no good reason is cringe why does vekter keep doing that
I'm not even gonna run because I know I can't do that job worth a damn, I'm perfectly fine doing what I'm doing now.Malkraz wrote:he knows he'd never get a single vote for headmin so he's been inserting himself into as many appeals as possible and trying to take control of them
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
i know you don't give a damn about my opinion but i respect your decision to not run for headmin because it's important to know your own limitations to avoid burnoutVekter wrote:I'm not even gonna run because I know I can't do that job worth a damn, I'm perfectly fine doing what I'm doing now.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
I don't understand. He's been permabanned for a decade and he delamed the SM once, which people do all the time? And because of that he can never come back? Wack as fuck.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
I'd be fine with him coming back and I think he's probably reformedAnuv wrote:I don't understand. He's been permabanned for a decade and he delamed the SM once, which people do all the time? And because of that he can never come back? Wack as fuck.
but the problem is he got lots of second chances and probations and failed all of them so when you blow up every time people give you a chance they're going to stop trusting you completely and permanently
that's why a lot of admins don't want to bother
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
he delammed the sm intentionally a month after getting over his last permaban. he never makes an attempt to play on other servers to get a "not a shithead" voucher, and his only interaction with anyone in this community is to try to get unbanned and immediately begin deliberately fucking up rounds. this isn't a guy who got banned over mistakenly overescalating as sec or getting too hot headed and calling an admin a rude word, he's proven himself to be actively malicious.Anuv wrote:I don't understand. He's been permabanned for a decade and he delamed the SM once, which people do all the time? And because of that he can never come back? Wack as fuck.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
It’s not like he’s been patiently sitting at his BYOND homescreen waiting for his ban to expire. He probably thought out of the blue: “I wanna screw around on that server I used to play on”, and made a ban appeal.Anuv wrote:I don't understand. He's been permabanned for a decade and he delamed the SM once, which people do all the time? And because of that he can never come back? Wack as fuck.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
Back in like 2014 or 2015, I told Terbs on IRC that I would take responsibility for his unbanning & probation if he could make me one promise. It was something along the lines of "Whenever you have an amazing, epic grief idea, a way to fuck over the station that's truly spectacular and shocking, just write it and down and wait until you get an antagonist roll.Armhulen wrote:>do anything to show you won't grief when unbannedAnuv wrote:He was banned seven years ago give him a chance
>message read: 2018
Terbs admitted he could not and stayed Perma:peel:.
You may notice that, in that same era, https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 685#p10706 Beardbeard was already being shot down for having a long history of bans. He was also already enshrined in the code as a known shitter referenced by the Doublebearded Wine, which basically every codebase still has.
In 2015, it was predicted https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 24#p115434 that the only way 2beard would be unbanned would be by headmins who wouldn't know him by experience or reputation.
Every time, he coasts in on "surely he can't still be that bad, and if he is it's easy to perma him again" https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... vv#p313496
Sure enough, in 2018 when he was unblacklisted, he made it from June 9 to July 9 before getting another permaban.
Terbs was... an interesting case. He would be a good player for a bit, and then he would get struck by a demon of mad genius that would compel him to do something brilliantly fucked up, like reroute disposals into a deadly-hot walled off shower as a nonantag. He still has to get banned for it, but it's at least sometimes for stuff where you're like, "Damn, if he'd been an antag that would've been great." 2beard doesn't even really do anything interesting or funny. He just blandly sabotages the engine or RDMs someone in the halls when the mood strikes him. If we're gonna unban a griefer it should at least be one who's entertaining.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
As the person who handled this appeal and one of his many previous ones, I am perfectly fine with him coming back after he has shown he can do so on a different community where there is no bad blood outside of the bridges he burnt on tg. I even gave him temp admin once to goof around long ago which he used to adminban sticky (based, should have stuck), I have very little issue with him with my limited interactions.
What’s hard for me to understand is that he refuses to do this despite having very little relation with anyone who currently plays. I even provided /vg/ which he’d probably like more since it’s more “””classic tg””” and it probably includes older players as well.
It’s quite clear his interests isn’t actually in playing ss13 because he can easily do that right now.
Also apologies for not replying to ur pm if u see this 2beard I don’t discuss admin stuff on discord pm (it’s my safe space) even if it was allowed. I prefer being able to link to stuff so I don’t have to repeat myself (thank god for hackmd)
What’s hard for me to understand is that he refuses to do this despite having very little relation with anyone who currently plays. I even provided /vg/ which he’d probably like more since it’s more “””classic tg””” and it probably includes older players as well.
It’s quite clear his interests isn’t actually in playing ss13 because he can easily do that right now.
Also apologies for not replying to ur pm if u see this 2beard I don’t discuss admin stuff on discord pm (it’s my safe space) even if it was allowed. I prefer being able to link to stuff so I don’t have to repeat myself (thank god for hackmd)
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
unbanning beardbeard is like being the person who goes back into an abusive relationship
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
And we all still talk to you despite the bruises sweetieoranges wrote:unbanning beardbeard is like being the person who goes back into an abusive relationship
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
SnapStickymayhem wrote:And we all still talk to you despite the bruises sweetieoranges wrote:unbanning beardbeard is like being the person who goes back into an abusive relationship
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
That is a name I haven't heard for a while
New appeal next year?
New appeal next year?
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
2Beard my love
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There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
beardbeard should do like I did to get unbanned: never get banned in the first place
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
Do it what's the worst that could happen? It'll be fun.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
Anuv wrote:I don't understand. He's been permabanned for a decade and he delamed the SM once, which people do all the time? And because of that he can never come back? Wack as fuck.
https://forum.ss13.co/archive/index.php?thread-5175.html wrote: Let's play a game! It'll be fun.
This is a ~*THOUGHT EXPERIMENT*~. Nothing here should be taken as a threat, offer, or suggestion that any of the acts about to be described will ever happen. Okay? Okay.
Let's say for the sake of this ~intellectual construct~ that we happened to live in the same town and were in the same social circles, but weren't friends - just barely acquainted. Because I'm a suave motherfucker, you invite me back to your place to watch Strange Days on DVD, because that movie is awesome and totally go check it out.
We get to your place, I excuse myself to the bathroom and - vanish. After a while, you check on the bathroom, only to find a perfectly coiled turd delicately balanced on top of the toilet seat, and I've apparently escaped out the window.
Huh. Weird. Things happen, though, and you invite me over again, because seriously that movie is so great.
This time, I head to the kitchen for a snack, and vanish. Investigation reveals that I've sharted in your water pitcher, turning what was once a gallon of crisp, clear Adam's Ale into my own personal chowder. Also escaped out the window again.
Maybe it's just a custom of his people, you think, and invite me over again, because the soundtrack for that film is remarkably great and turned me on to Macedonian folk pop.
I announce that I forgot something in my car, and vanish. You roll your eyes and head outside to survey the damage, only to find that I had apparently pressed my anus to your mail slot (and that I've been a good boy and eating my fiber lately) and pooped a perfect rectangle through it, like the world's foulest Play-Doh Fun Factory.
You sigh and invite me over again, because Strange Days is an excellent piece of speculative fiction and the idea of being able to record and play back experiences is fodder for some really great imagination.
This time I shove past you when you open the door and, in record time, drop a big hairy loaf in your fish tank. You almost puke on the floor while fishing it out because I'd had Mexican the night before, and your prize clownfish is picking the green onion bits out of the mess.
Through gritted teeth, you invite me over AGAIN, because although she's still in a subservient role to the protagonist, and doesn't pass the Bechdel test, the character of Mace is a rare example of a strong black woman in film.
This time I've brought a gift! A box of raisins. Excellent, you say, and shelve it for later, because you're not hungry now, but were going to make oatmeal cookies later, and oatmeal raisin cookies are proof of a kind and loving deity. The DVD player is on the fritz, though, and we wind up watching three hours of Hee Haw reruns. I take my leave, and that's when you discover that the box of raisins is instead filled with tiny blobs of painstakingly-rolled tiny poops. You begin to wonder what happened to me as a child.
It takes you a good half hour of psyching yourself up to pick up the phone and let me know that you got your DVD player fixed, so come on over and we'll enjoy the cinematography of Matthew Leonetti.
This time I've brought a bottle of wine! Let's pretend that I'm getting a little tired of coming up with wacky scenarios and it's piss, alright, it's a wine bottle filled with piss. Maybe it's mine, maybe it isn't, but the piss provenance isn't the issue here, okay? It's just piss. A refreshing change from poo shenanigans, sure, but you're still left with a bottle of Riesling where Riesling is crossed out with a green crayon and PEESLING is written in its place. And the S is backwards, this is for Reasons. I'm a writer!
That's what, six already? Two more? Okay.
You invite me over again, for reasons no sane person could even begin to speculate to, and I announce to you that I have truly changed my ways, and in fact, had hired a cleaning crew to come by earlier while you were at work and scour the place stem to stern. As much as it unnerves you to have had people in your apartment without your knowledge, and as much as it worries you that I was apparently able to let them in somehow, you have to admit that the place has never looked better. We watch the film and agree that it's one of the finest films ever made, and that it's a damnable shame that James Cameron is famous for lesser films like The Terminator series, when this is clearly his masterwork. We bid each other adieu, and you head to bed happy that for once, you got through an evening without any unauthorized exhaust. The next morning comes, and the apartment smells FOUL. It takes you three hours to check the place over, and you finally found that I have laid the king hell of all eggs on the filter for your air conditioner. You stare at it in silent amazement, wondering how I passed that thing and was able to walk afterward. You consider shooting it before tossing it in the dumpster, because you're not used to seeing anything that large that is neither alive nor a stone.
I call you the next morning wanting to know if you'd like to see The Terror Of Tiny-Town, an all-dwarf spaghetti western. This is the point at which you suggest it's not working out.
Okay. NOW FOR THE EXPERIMENT. At which point in the above did your suspension of disbelief falter? If it was anywhere past the first hidden poo, then you are either far more forgiving than is healthy, or you might have some issues with self-esteem. And yet, after repeatedly making a terrible mess of the place and making sure we don't want you around anymore *seven seperate times*, you still expect to be invited over for coffee and discussion of Ralph Fiennes and Vincent D'Onofrio's best film?
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
That would be accurate if donking an SM was at all comparable to shitting in someone’s water pitcher...
I’d say it’s probably equivalent IRL to something mildly annoying but still annoying. Like fake coughing.
I’d say it’s probably equivalent IRL to something mildly annoying but still annoying. Like fake coughing.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
girl it's not supposed to be serioussinfulbliss wrote:That would be accurate if donking an SM was at all comparable to shitting in someone’s water pitcher...
I’d say it’s probably equivalent IRL to something mildly annoying but still annoying. Like fake coughing.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
This would be accurate if the baseline of the discussion wasn’t premised behind we were friends to begin with.sinfulbliss wrote:That would be accurate if donking an SM was at all comparable to shitting in someone’s water pitcher...
I’d say it’s probably equivalent IRL to something mildly annoying but still annoying. Like fake coughing.
You’re a random stranger on the internet so if you’re annoying or for the pooping equivalent kicking people out of the game (not going to bother with the irl comparison gotcha, there’s obviously a different standard for what constitute serious else no one would ever be banned unless they traveled to someone’s house and beat them up irl) for no reason you don’t have any friendship tenure to rely on to not be assumed as a knob. This is especially true as admins come and go and completely different people from bb’s first appeal are handling it now.
If there was a joke (it doesn’t sound like there was), it’s certainly lost on everyone coming in.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
personally i'd be way more upset if my friend shat up my house than a stranger I invited in off the street to watch Blade.
the metaphor is collapsing however so let's just go back to "it sucks that you're banned when you wanna play here, but it sucks harder that you like to randomly nuke our station for a giggle, mate"
the metaphor is collapsing however so let's just go back to "it sucks that you're banned when you wanna play here, but it sucks harder that you like to randomly nuke our station for a giggle, mate"
kieth4 wrote: infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
2beard is honestly so god damn funny
the best part is he was literally in fucking middle school
the best part is he was literally in fucking middle school
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
how old was he in 2012 out of curiosity
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
can't get more powerful than that tbh
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
He’s probably 21-23 now. So like 12-14 we had a ton of middle school kids for a while, like Tanknut and Baconatorxking
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
We had an admin that was literally 12, he was deadminned for varediting his shoes for extra speed
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
How do you even understand a game like SS13 in middle school? I had trouble even learning the controls and I was well beyond that stage of my life when I began playing.
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Re: Beardbeard peanut
Maybe they're smarter than you. Some of them convinced the community they were over 18 before gettinf caught.
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