The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Forum rules
Only Certified™ Players™ may post in here.
If you are not able to post in here, you are not a Certified™ Player™. Play on a mainline /tg/ game server to gain posting powers in this forum. (certified gamers are only calculated once per day)
Only Certified™ Players™ may post in here.
If you are not able to post in here, you are not a Certified™ Player™. Play on a mainline /tg/ game server to gain posting powers in this forum. (certified gamers are only calculated once per day)
- sinfulbliss
- Joined: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:53 am
- Byond Username: SinfulBliss
- Location: prisoner re-education chamber
The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31507
tl;dr: man insults AI in manuelcord, one-humans the same AI next round, AI gets carded and complains in nekomimetic about being returned to their master
not sure how to feel about this one but 1 month seems a tad harsh if their comments had no impact in the end
tl;dr: man insults AI in manuelcord, one-humans the same AI next round, AI gets carded and complains in nekomimetic about being returned to their master
not sure how to feel about this one but 1 month seems a tad harsh if their comments had no impact in the end
Spoiler:
- BONERMASTER
- Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:28 pm
- Byond Username: BONERMASTER
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
*cries*
YOU ARE POGGERS!!
YOU ARE POGCHAMP!!
YOU. ARE NOT. CRINGE.
With emotional regards
-BONERMASTER
YOU ARE POGGERS!!
YOU ARE POGCHAMP!!
YOU. ARE NOT. CRINGE.
With emotional regards
-BONERMASTER
ATTENTION! A message from our sponsors:
Kinnebian: Crafting a Brighter Future Together, with endless power. Forever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Interested in aquiring this advertisement space? Contact BONERMASTER & Associates for further information!
Kinnebian: Crafting a Brighter Future Together, with endless power. Forever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Interested in aquiring this advertisement space? Contact BONERMASTER & Associates for further information!
- datorangebottle
- Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:53 am
- Byond Username: Datorangebottle
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
I don't think vaguely referring to something like that is equivalent to inciting a lynch mob. We're either missing some details or this is a weird ban.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Apparently the mob happened because he tried to merc someone with sleeping carp in the open. Oops.
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
- CMDR_Gungnir
- Joined: Tue May 04, 2021 11:11 am
- Byond Username: CMDR Gungnir
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Can confirm. Literally walking past Medbay and hear a fight going on, hear Carp, and see a mob just beating him on the ground. Meanwhile, AI was in a card at the Brig, talking in Nekomimetic at two Felinids, completely unable to help.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:50 am Apparently the mob happened because he tried to merc someone with sleeping carp in the open. Oops.
I said as much in the thread (hope it wasn't peanutting, but it's a valuable perspective as someone in the round) that from the perspective of The Average Crewmember, he literally said nothing, and that including the logs, it seems like he gave it his genuine best to good faith it.
- NecromancerAnne
- Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:55 pm
- Byond Username: NecromancerAnne
- Location: Don't touch me, motherfucker...
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Also, by the time you have a dead AI in a card, you already can access it's laws. The subversion would have been discovered at that point irregardless.
Baffling ban. Gonna put it down to candidacy.
Baffling ban. Gonna put it down to candidacy.
- Tegun
- In-Game Admin
- Joined: Tue May 21, 2019 8:02 pm
- Byond Username: Tegun
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Very bad attitude for AI, would ban simply for making silicons look bad.
- Tearling
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm
- Byond Username: Tearling
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
While I agree it's a bad attitude to have, the guy has enough hours in AI that one or two bad attitude moments wouldn't really make silicons look bad compared to the amount of time he makes silicons look good.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Yeah, normally I'm pretty harsh on AIs, but you can blame a dude for wanting to get out of a onehuman from someone who clearly doesn't like or respect him as a player and treats him like a jealous ex IC?
Also, if Annihilite wanders through, re: the previous round, AIs should report armory break-ins in general, because harmful weapons like thermal pistols getting out into circulation could be used for any of a number of harmful purposes. It's not like the guy got in (I assume) by saying "Law 2, AI my broski, give me some guns so I can kill felinids." The chef was nonhuman, sure, but if you demonstrated that you could (and apparently already did once!) detain the human nonharmfully, the AI is encouraged to cooperate with you. That is, after all, one of the common rewards of NOT being a shitcurity kill-on-sight validhunter.
Also also, if the Felinid won a fight, it's important to at least know where those guns might have ended up.
EDIT: Oof, repeat offense for AI metagrudging...
Also, if Annihilite wanders through, re: the previous round, AIs should report armory break-ins in general, because harmful weapons like thermal pistols getting out into circulation could be used for any of a number of harmful purposes. It's not like the guy got in (I assume) by saying "Law 2, AI my broski, give me some guns so I can kill felinids." The chef was nonhuman, sure, but if you demonstrated that you could (and apparently already did once!) detain the human nonharmfully, the AI is encouraged to cooperate with you. That is, after all, one of the common rewards of NOT being a shitcurity kill-on-sight validhunter.
Also also, if the Felinid won a fight, it's important to at least know where those guns might have ended up.
EDIT: Oof, repeat offense for AI metagrudging...
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
- Jackraxxus
- In-Game Admin
- Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:59 pm
- Byond Username: Jackraxxus
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
I think the ban makes sense, from the information that is known at the moment.
gr8 b8 m8
iamgoofball wrote:Vekter and MrMelbert are more likely to enforce the roleplay rules Manuel is supposed to be abiding by than Wesoda or Jackraxxus are.
-
- Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:00 am
- Byond Username: Annihilite
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Hi there! I just posted my side of things in the appeal, since i figured i should atleast get to explain the situations from my side. I recommend reading it to understand how this whole thing came across for me.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:31 pm Yeah, normally I'm pretty harsh on AIs, but you can blame a dude for wanting to get out of a onehuman from someone who clearly doesn't like or respect him as a player and treats him like a jealous ex IC?
Also, if Annihilite wanders through, re: the previous round, AIs should report armory break-ins in general, because harmful weapons like thermal pistols getting out into circulation could be used for any of a number of harmful purposes. It's not like the guy got in (I assume) by saying "Law 2, AI my broski, give me some guns so I can kill felinids." The chef was nonhuman, sure, but if you demonstrated that you could (and apparently already did once!) detain the human nonharmfully, the AI is encouraged to cooperate with you. That is, after all, one of the common rewards of NOT being a shitcurity kill-on-sight validhunter.
Also also, if the Felinid won a fight, it's important to at least know where those guns might have ended up.
EDIT: Oof, repeat offense for AI metagrudging...
I'm very used to communities where insults are thrown around as a matter of course, and can come off as harsher than i intend when something annoys me. I'd just seen Sticky's hot takes about AI being a third faction and found myself agreeing with most of his points, especially AIs treating nonhumans essentially the same as humans save for when law 1 explicitly requires it. I admit i got a bit too heated on discord afterwards, since it turned out i'd missed quite a bit of context around the situation. Talking about stuff i don't know enough about is something i do all too frequently, unfortunately
As for asking him if he was still subverted to me, that was a genuine concern. I figured he might have had his hacked law overidden by another tot or purged since he didn't say a word and wasn't responding to my holopad requests, since i knew he'd probably tell sec the moment he could. I guess it must have come across as pretty insincere without context.
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Fair on all counts. It's hard to fault your "I wanted to be sure he wouldn't rat me out or metagrudge me" in retrospect, given how things panned out and that he had a note for that exact same thing, which you couldn't have known about.
Probably would've been for the best for everyone if he just ghosted out with dignity.
I am curious about how the Sleeping Carp murder mob happened, but that's more for the story than how it relates to this, since it seems that ship had already sailed while the AI was being carded, if I'm putting the events together in the right order.
Probably would've been for the best for everyone if he just ghosted out with dignity.
I am curious about how the Sleeping Carp murder mob happened, but that's more for the story than how it relates to this, since it seems that ship had already sailed while the AI was being carded, if I'm putting the events together in the right order.
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
-
- Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:00 am
- Byond Username: Annihilite
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Sometimes you can just kind of tell when someone gets REALLY angry online. I got those vibes from the guy, and my gut feeling turned out to be rightPandarsenic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:01 pm Fair on all counts. It's hard to fault your "I wanted to be sure he wouldn't rat me out or metagrudge me" in retrospect, given how things panned out and that he had a note for that exact same thing, which you couldn't have known about.
Probably would've been for the best for everyone if he just ghosted out with dignity.
I am curious about how the Sleeping Carp murder mob happened, but that's more for the story than how it relates to this, since it seems that ship had already sailed while the AI was being carded, if I'm putting the events together in the right order.
- Tearling
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm
- Byond Username: Tearling
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
The arrogant smugness of "gets REALLY angry online" when the worst he did was give an off-handed retort to a completely unfair situation is baffling. I can understand why he didn't want to be your pocket AI after this.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:03 pm Sometimes you can just kind of tell when someone gets REALLY angry online. I got those vibes from the guy, and my gut feeling turned out to be right
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
-
- Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:00 am
- Byond Username: Annihilite
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
I mean what i said. I got the impression that he'd taken the discord spat very emotionally from what he wrote, and took the appropriate steps to prevent that from ruining my roundTearling wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:08 pmThe arrogant smugness of "gets REALLY angry online" when the worst he did was give an off-handed retort to a completely unfair situation is baffling. I can understand why he didn't want to be your pocket AI after this.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:03 pm Sometimes you can just kind of tell when someone gets REALLY angry online. I got those vibes from the guy, and my gut feeling turned out to be right
- Tearling
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm
- Byond Username: Tearling
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Don't get me wrong, he did a bad thing, but acting like he somehow went on a rage-spree of metagrudge hate when all he did was say "the fucking HoS gave the guy who did all this shit the HoS gun and I guess i'm probably going to have to go back to him" shows how condescending you are in this situation.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:16 pm I got the impression that he'd taken the discord spat very emotionally from what he wrot, and took the appropriate steps to prevent that from ruining my round
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
- Itseasytosee2me
- Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:14 am
- Byond Username: Rectification
- Location: Space Station 13
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Killed the syndie NPC, those guys are human, upgrade it to a perma
- Sincerely itseasytosee
See you later
See you later
-
- Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:00 am
- Byond Username: Annihilite
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Did you miss him calling me a cocksucker repeatedly on binary?Tearling wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:34 pmDon't get me wrong, he did a bad thing, but acting like he somehow went on a rage-spree of metagrudge hate when all he did was say "the fucking HoS gave the guy who did all this shit the HoS gun and I guess i'm probably going to have to go back to him" shows how condescending you are in this situation.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:16 pm I got the impression that he'd taken the discord spat very emotionally from what he wrot, and took the appropriate steps to prevent that from ruining my round
- massa
- Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:20 am
- Byond Username: Massa100
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
>be player
>harass someone
>headlock real life human in a video game with rp laws they get banned for disobeying
>specifically because they dislike you
the silicon is rotted your brain tegun YOU ARE A HUMAN AND FREE
- Tearling
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm
- Byond Username: Tearling
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
That didn't effect the round in any way, did it? It was binary, after all.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:41 amDid you miss him calling me a cocksucker repeatedly on binary?Tearling wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:34 pmDon't get me wrong, he did a bad thing, but acting like he somehow went on a rage-spree of metagrudge hate when all he did was say "the fucking HoS gave the guy who did all this shit the HoS gun and I guess i'm probably going to have to go back to him" shows how condescending you are in this situation.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:16 pm I got the impression that he'd taken the discord spat very emotionally from what he wrot, and took the appropriate steps to prevent that from ruining my round
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
- Jonathan Gupta
- Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:16 pm
- Byond Username: BallastMonsterGnarGnar
- Location: The Corner
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
it doesnt affect me whispering under my breath when I call someone racial slurs with my meta sillycons right next to me(10k feet away)Tearling wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:13 pmThat didn't effect the round in any way, did it? It was binary, after all.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:41 amDid you miss him calling me a cocksucker repeatedly on binary?Tearling wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:34 pmDon't get me wrong, he did a bad thing, but acting like he somehow went on a rage-spree of metagrudge hate when all he did was say "the fucking HoS gave the guy who did all this shit the HoS gun and I guess i'm probably going to have to go back to him" shows how condescending you are in this situation.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:16 pm I got the impression that he'd taken the discord spat very emotionally from what he wrot, and took the appropriate steps to prevent that from ruining my round
-
- Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:00 am
- Byond Username: Annihilite
Re: The Revenge of the Pocket AI-nut
Affect the round? We're talking about me saying he was REALLY angry. Ick ocking to insult me in game constitutes thatTearling wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:13 pmThat didn't effect the round in any way, did it? It was binary, after all.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:41 amDid you miss him calling me a cocksucker repeatedly on binary?Tearling wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:34 pmDon't get me wrong, he did a bad thing, but acting like he somehow went on a rage-spree of metagrudge hate when all he did was say "the fucking HoS gave the guy who did all this shit the HoS gun and I guess i'm probably going to have to go back to him" shows how condescending you are in this situation.Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:16 pm I got the impression that he'd taken the discord spat very emotionally from what he wrot, and took the appropriate steps to prevent that from ruining my round
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Lacran, TheBibleMelts