YBS is still in the wrong even having this as a note. They've displayed nothing but bad conduct here and this backpedaling meant to soften the blow as their tower of stupidity comes crashing down is a gross attempt to divert attention away from the fact that they are being genuinely awful. I don't care how annoying or abrasive people find Joe that shouldn't be taken into consideration when he did nothing lynchable or even remotely worth an unprovoked attack.
YBS made a bad call, wasn't even aware of the facts or that they were actually verifiably wrong in their information, shows little in the way of understanding that they were putting a boot to someone's neck without actually being correct in doing so and how bad that makes them and the administration look. This isn't just some nuanced little detail that was missed. This was egregious and shows that they're out to dispense punishments regardless of the facts of the matter.
Most admins, hopefully will take a look at the situation and then decide if punishments are warranted and taking the situation into context before doing so.
YBS decided the punishment, then looked to the situation on how to make it fit. They got it wrong, absolutely and undeniably wrong which tells me they aren't out to make the game better for everyone as a whole, they are looking for opportunities to punish people.
No note for this, no ban either, an apology should be given to joe and YBS should be noted for admin conduct for a number of reasons, chiefly leaking other peoples private information in communication, erroneous comprehension of the logs being used haphazardly to punish someone and just generally being a dismissive fuckwit.
Joe, let the headmins deal with this, you've requested a headmin review and YBS is still in there trying to change the narrative and adjust the facts to make him look like less of a fuckwit. In my opinion the admin in question who stuck to their guns should NOT be able to continue to interact with the issue after the fact and try to continue to alter the course of the bullshit. They told you what their answer was, you disagreed and requested a headmin review. That's where their interaction should fully end and they should NOT be able to run in later and go "Haha no no, look you're unbanned, see you're good, don't tell mom"
You copped this bullshit 7 day ban On May 3rd
YBS denied your appeal on May 3rd, around
an hour later you requested an appeal.
Mothblocks dropped a truth bomb on May 4th, not a headmin ruling but just pointing out some OBVIOUS shit.
YBS tried to asscover on May 5th, after you had already sat out a couple days.
Now he's reducing your ban to a warning.
Buddy, you already served an unjust ban because of YBS, don't let him make you think he's fixing this by backpedaling now and bringing it down to a warning. That warning should be expunged and YBS reprimanded for the conduct they've shown. They've not acted in good faith because they made the lowest of efforts to actually check the logs and make sure their information was accurate. Checking the logs is not difficult nor is it excusable to overlook obvious things that are by point of fact the building blocks of ones reasoning for punishment. At no time does he actually acknowledge that a mistake was made on his part in anyway. He used another players private ban information in communication with a 3rd party. Then after you've requested a headmin ruling after he denied the appeal without much in the way of effort to see things from a different, more accurate and factual perspective, he then continued to fuck around and has now reached the point where you're being told you are receiving a warning for something that wasn't your fault in the first place. This is dumb. YBS is being dumb. Check my post earlier in that they don't actually play the game anymore and should be put out to pasture if their sole interaction with the community is just to be a banbot.
Now why is this shit important? Why am I hinging on his accuracy? Cause he fucking sucks as an admin and actually has pulled this same shit recently.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31543&p=637931#p637931 - Hey,
April 18th 2022 .. weird, that's like really recent right?
YBS said.
"To conclude my thoughts on this, retrospectively the technical details of this ban were a mess.
I've made several mistakes with documentation that I acknowledge and will try to learn from.
I have both deleted the antagonist ban due to it's invalid nature and edited the wording of the inciting event to this ban. The note to this now reads:
[MRP] As Traitor, Warned about putting the station in a shuttle-recall loop while station was inhospitable (deadly atmos, tcomms down). (Rule 1)
That being said, I am still convinced that I'm right about you as a player, regardless of headmin decision. I can't sense that you've really taken away anything from the bans "
Well gee golly good fuck ain't that interesting. YBS has the details wrong, the punishments are egregious and it has to go to a headmin review (It's still in there cooking) and YBS again goes on to illustrate that facts don't really matter but his feelings, his perception of things. "I am still convinced I'm right about you as a player" "I can't sense" and shit like that don't matter worth a good fuck if you're using those as the foundation of your judgements and not the facts, as you've done twice now you utter fuckdip. I'd take a look at the other ones but there ain't many beyond you appealing your perma ban after you ban evaded.
Here's what really gets my ass up in your oreo McFlurry though.
Mon Mar 28, 2022
YBS was promoted to Trial Admin.
It has been only
38 days since you were given an opportunity and in this time you've made an ass of yourself twice in ways that have both been owing to the fact that you don't choose to read the logs properly to ensure what is going on in your soft brain is accurate. In those times you've used wording that shows you care more about your feelings towards the player and not the actual facts, even though those don't actually matter to you either given you've got them wrong twice now.
"I am still convinced that I'm right about you as a player,
regardless of headmin decision. I can't sense that you've really taken away anything from the bans"
Your first stupid fucking ban, April 17th only 20 days since you got the power.
"I slept on this and realized I'm framing a lot on the both of you being overly culpable for what in most cases, with any other players, would just be an IC issue. if I take off the glasses"
Your second stupid fucking ban, May 3rd only 16 days later and again you Miss Cleo wannabe motherfucker you're admitting again facts don't matter, how you feel does.
Then, again showing you don't respect the headmin process you continue to fuck around in that very ban appeal. You made your call idiot, live or die by it. Mothblocks threw you a cookie but I don't think it was at all to help you I think it's to publicly shame you for being trash.
You've also garnered negative feedback VERY quickly into your time as a trialmin. And it's kinda sketchy.
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You fucked my shoelaces as admin when I refused your sudden new kill target objective added to my objective list as tot. You monster.
But really, I'd personally be more likely to go along with an objective like that if you- er, the syndicate gave me context of why they wanted a certain person dead.
And also if you used a more IC method of communication instead of bwoinking me out of nowhere with a new antag objective.
As a personal thing, I don't like IC issue response button being thrown at my face so many times when closing the ticket. It just feels kinda robotic, even if its valid. Try to avoid that. Like I was going to ask you to remove the objectives from my stuff but then you marked it as IC issue or whatever so I had to make yet another ticket.
I personally do not really like going out of my way to kill specific people that aren't security with my playstyle. I hate stealth murdering, as I believe stealth murdering makes you feel incredibly singled out in the round and incredibly overkill if use desword etc, and I am still sad prog tot encourages stealth murders myself. I probably wouldn't murder a random scientist unless I really wanted them to be dead.
What? You gave an antagonist a kill objective? Okay that might be funny but who was the kill objective directed at and do you have prior interaction with this target? Then the antagonist refused which is their right and you punished them for it? Even lightly. I'm curious to know who that target was. You bwoinked them to give them a kill objective instead of using a voice inside their head or anything else IC? Shit even the player is like, bruh yeah use IC.
However, when the player is like "What? No I don't want to do this please remove this objective" because you used no IC justification for it, did not explain to the player anything, why the target should die.. none of that. You picked someone who I believe NOT to be just random and I think is an issue worth investigating to be
REMOVED FROM THE ROUND by an antagonist without actually providing any information as to why, and using a bwoink to do it?
Then, when the antagonist was like "Uh, this is shit please remove this ojective" you refused and kept insta-closing the tickets marking them as IC issues?
Dude.
I'm sure there's even more horseshit that's happened in your first 38 days but it's time to call this one and stop this now before more people have to be railroaded by your idiocy. You play the forums, not SS13. Stick to that and stop letting your horseshit ballsuck judgement and stupidity affect other players. Having two people appealing your bans with nearly the same theme of you being an illiterate fuckwit who is punishing based on feelings (and prior interaction?) and in both cases you don't respect the players right to seek a headmin review, the first time telling the player you're labeling them no matter what the headmins say, the second time backpedaling and trying to flip the script when you've had your nose shoved in the mess you left on the carpet. The admin feedback alone makes you look like a massive fucking wanker. Then you've leaked other peoples ban information proving you don't respect the privileged information you have access to. This is just the stuff that hit the forums. I can only imagine what I would find you've been doing with your newfound powers if I went into the logs with your rounds.
Step down, clown. You did not pass. You're nothing but a deadmin candidate.