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Killing antags peanut thread
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Weak little heretic didnt deserve this
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Weak little heretic didnt deserve this
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
unga unga
theres a difference between valid killing and just being a fucking asshole
theres a difference between valid killing and just being a fucking asshole
Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Giving someone a final warning for something that coffee admits was not rule breaking seems beyond shitty.
Classic admin fucked up but dosen't want to admit they made a mistake.
Classic admin fucked up but dosen't want to admit they made a mistake.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
ladies and gentlemen, i would like to remind you that this is zyb we're talking about
this note wasn't because he broke the rules. it's because he's consistently a problem child and building a record against him has been nigh impossible because he random names every shift and refuses to interact with players that will actually ahelp his consistently shit conduct
please refer to the discussion in this thread for as to why the admins are starting to actually start documenting zyb's behavior
if he wants his shit behavior to stop being documented, he should stop behaving like shit
the note should stay put under rule 12, which was designed for people like zyb
this note wasn't because he broke the rules. it's because he's consistently a problem child and building a record against him has been nigh impossible because he random names every shift and refuses to interact with players that will actually ahelp his consistently shit conduct
please refer to the discussion in this thread for as to why the admins are starting to actually start documenting zyb's behavior
if he wants his shit behavior to stop being documented, he should stop behaving like shit
the note should stay put under rule 12, which was designed for people like zyb
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
normally yeah if he didn't exclusively play a mute security officer. the man has exactly 216 say logs across his last seven roundstart secoff shifts, most of which is "ai open" or "x bad"
i don't know how better to explain to anybody that the man plays this game exclusively for valids and doesn't actually roleplay
edit: for reference, in zyb's last roundstart shift, zyb had 47 say logs as some nameless secoff, summoner99 had 350 say logs as a borg, i had 445 say logs as CE, &c. for one shift. most of zyb's say logs were callouts ("x bad," "x is a y", "x in z"), &c. you can expect this man to communicate with players more than an order of magnitude less than literally anyone else doing the bare minimum
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
I would love to see what percent of their say logs contain either "AI" or "bad"Scriptis wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 8:21 pmnormally yeah if he didn't exclusively play a mute security officer. the man has exactly 216 say logs across his last seven roundstart secoff shifts, most of which is "ai open" or "x bad"
i don't know how better to explain to anybody that the man plays this game exclusively for valids and doesn't actually roleplay
edit: for reference, in zyb's last roundstart shift, zyb had 47 say logs as some nameless secoff, summoner99 had 350 say logs as a borg, i had 445 say logs as CE, &c. for one shift. most of zyb's say logs were callouts ("x bad," "x is a y", "x in z"), &c. you can expect this man to communicate with players more than an order of magnitude less than literally anyone else doing the bare minimum
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
give me ten minutes
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
This information is meaningless unless you give the server average for say logs.Scriptis wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 8:21 pmnormally yeah if he didn't exclusively play a mute security officer. the man has exactly 216 say logs across his last seven roundstart secoff shifts, most of which is "ai open" or "x bad"
216 over 7 rounds is about 30 says per round.
For 90 minute shifts (coder target) that's about 1 say every 3 minutes. Really doesn't sound that bad.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
game.txt for most between shifts 182366 (2022-04-30 05:56:30) through 183793 (2022-05-26 02:32:19), where Zyb was present round-start:
Total SAYs for Zyb:
this is an entire fucking month and you only said 527 things, what the fuck
number of times you asked for an AI:
number of times you said "x bad":
number of times you said "x in y":
number of times you said "x is a y":
from this completely sound method of capturing this information we can conclude that zyb has said, in the past month, at most, 428 things that were not validhunting
edit: barring that "rg \"in\"" is actually stupid but the point still stands
edit: actually providing "x in y"
edit: i am still narrowing this highly accurate forensic method for determining how much of a validhunter zyb is
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182366.txt 182960.txt 183508.txt 183626.txt 183645.txt 183793.txt
182397.txt 183232.txt 183514.txt 183628.txt 183689.txt
182416.txt 183448.txt 183524.txt 183636.txt 183792.txt
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Zybwivcz" | wc -l
527
number of times you asked for an AI:
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Zybwivcz" | rg "AI" | wc -l
54
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Zybwivcz" | rg "bad" | wc -l
17
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Zybwivcz" | rg "^.+?\Win\W.+$" | wc -l
17
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Zybwivcz" | rg "is a" | wc -l
11
edit: barring that "rg \"in\"" is actually stupid but the point still stands
edit: actually providing "x in y"
edit: i am still narrowing this highly accurate forensic method for determining how much of a validhunter zyb is
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
1 say every 3 minutes is like, less than virologist or xenobiologist levels of silence. This is combined with the fact that security has nearly zero job content that does not involve dealing with other players.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 9:02 pm This information is meaningless unless you give the server average for say logs.
216 over 7 rounds is about 30 says per round.
For 90 minute shifts (coder target) that's about 1 say every 3 minutes. Really doesn't sound that bad.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
i am not mothblocks and i bill by the hour for chartschocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 9:02 pm This information is meaningless unless you give the server average for say logs.
216 over 7 rounds is about 30 says per round.
For 90 minute shifts (coder target) that's about 1 say every 3 minutes. Really doesn't sound that bad.
ask for a ckey and i will provide the same post above for that ckey as a metric for how little zyb says. i promise it's that bad
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
I'm scared to volunteer and yetScriptis wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 9:09 pmi am not mothblocks and i bill by the hour for chartschocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 9:02 pm This information is meaningless unless you give the server average for say logs.
216 over 7 rounds is about 30 says per round.
For 90 minute shifts (coder target) that's about 1 say every 3 minutes. Really doesn't sound that bad.
ask for a ckey and i will provide the same post above for that ckey as a metric for how little zyb says. i promise it's that bad
Fuck me up fam
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Introducing the first edition of the Brick Mortar Metric For Determining If You Need To Stop Playing!
If more than 25% of your speech over a large period of time is related to calling out antagonists or bothering the AI, you Probably Need To Stop Playing!
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Zybwivcz" > zyb.txt
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat zyb.txt | wc -l
527
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat zyb.txt | rg -wi "(help|bad|ai|traitor|traitors|heretic|heretics|malf|malfunction|malfunctioning|ling|changeling|changelings|kill|killing|rev|revs|revolution|cult|cultists|red eyes|halo|halos|mindshield)" | wc -l
153
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Scriptis" > scriptis.txt
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat scriptis.txt | wc -l
1996
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat scriptis.txt | rg -wi "(help|bad|ai|traitor|traitors|heretic|heretics|malf|malfunction|malfunctioning|ling|changeling|changelings|kill|killing|rev|revs|revolution|cult|cultists|red eyes|halo|halos|mindshield)" | wc -l
225
Let's look at Pandarsenic!
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Pandarsenic" > pandarsenic.txt
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat pandarsenic.txt | wc -l
155
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat pandarsenic.txt | rg -wi "(help|bad|ai|traitor|traitors|heretic|heretics|malf|malfunction|malfunctioning|ling|changeling|changelings|kill|killing|rev|revs|revolution|cult|cultists|red eyes|halo|halos|mindshield)" | wc -l
9
Finally, let's have a look at another Sybil sec main!
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Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ rg "SAY: Agux909" > agux.txt
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat agux.txt | wc -l
255
Scriptis@citadel MINGW64 ~/Desktop/zyb_logs
$ cat agux.txt | rg -wi "(help|bad|ai|traitor|traitors|heretic|heretics|malf|malfunction|malfunctioning|ling|changeling|changelings|kill|killing|rev|revs|revolution|cult|cultists|red eyes|halo|halos|mindshield)" | wc -l
8
Edit: In honor of the person who inspired this metric, I am renaming it to the Zyb Index: the fraction of your SAYs that are validhunting.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Waiting to see someone's count go up massively when you add "tot" to the list
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
tot-allyPandarsenic wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 10:04 pm Waiting to see someone's count go up massively when you add "tot" to the list
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
this dude continues to write bibles on the forums and but refuses to write 2 lines in game
very based to random name and never talk to anyone, really helps with the roleplay
very based to random name and never talk to anyone, really helps with the roleplay
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Wow! 99% of your say logs are about antags! You probably need a lawyer!Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 10:04 pm Waiting to see someone's count go up massively when you add "tot" to the list
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
The vast majority of my time was spent as a random namer. I'd love to see my stats on that one.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Absolute chad statistics poster.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Get a good enough AI (runs around, occasionally attacks anyone nearby with whatever they are holding, says dialogue from a list of like 20 preset lines) controlling enough NPCs and you could probably just shadowban and redirect Zybwivcz to it for a while. I give it 2 months at the minimum until they realize something is up.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
The data I have is only shifts Zyb played at from roundstart. You do appear in those shifts with a Zyb Index of 7.2% (27/370), but this is long after you rolled random names.
In fact, let me reiterate on that. I have only been using data here where Zyb was always present. For many of these shifts, other players I have ranked against this set were not present. In some cases, this means that players that did not appear in many of these shifts still said more things than Zyb in all of them.
Wow!
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
AccountName5 Zyb index?
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
damn, scriptis just walked into a man's note appeal and straight up murdered him with numbers.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
never settle for anyone who loves you with less passion than scriptis' hating zyb
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
even i have a hard time restraining heretics as a pacifist, they could jaunt everywhere
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Literally just take their focus. They've needed it to jaunt since the reworkRageguy505 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 5:36 am even i have a hard time restraining heretics as a pacifist, they could jaunt everywhere
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Reviewing his say logs from that round manually, he says a staggering 7 lines that don't appear to be directly related to hunting antags, maaaybe 8. In the whole round. I'm in awe.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
What were they? I want to behold the quality of zyb's roleplayPandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 8:23 am Reviewing his say logs from that round manually, he says a staggering 7 lines that don't appear to be directly related to hunting antags, maaaybe 8. In the whole round. I'm in awe.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Validhoonting:Annihilite111 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 8:58 amWhat were they? I want to behold the quality of zyb's roleplayPandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 8:23 am Reviewing his say logs from that round manually, he says a staggering 7 lines that don't appear to be directly related to hunting antags, maaaybe 8. In the whole round. I'm in awe.
Other:12:51:32 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "Arrest Sergio, has a baton" (111, 166, 2) Brig
12:52:38 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "BORG" (85, 148, 2) Storage Wing
12:52:40 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "GET OVER HERE" (84, 147, 2) Storage Wing
01:00:45 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "AI open" (106, 169, 2) Brig
01:00:54 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "missed a spot" (113, 165, 2) Brig
01:01:04 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "nice necklace" (118, 165, 2) Brig
01:02:01 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "well this place is messed up" (92, 182, 2) Prison Wing
01:02:05 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "What happened to permabrig?" (91, 183, 2) Prison Wing
01:03:35 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "AI door" (106, 171, 2) Armory
01:06:14 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "AI door" (117, 129, 2) Captain's Quarters
01:06:33 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "AI door" (117, 129, 2) Captain's Quarters
01:07:03 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "I could if you'd OPEN THE DOOR" (117, 129, 2) Captain's Quarters
01:09:46 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "Get the turret!" (215, 136, 2) AI Satellite Antechamber
01:10:07 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "probably" (107, 137, 2) Bridge
01:10:09 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "all AI are evil" (107, 137, 2) Bridge
01:12:34 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "hey" (109, 99, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
01:12:36 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "heretic brain here" (109, 99, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
01:14:26 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "Who and where?" (134, 93, 2) Research Division
01:14:59 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "AI is Robocop" (126, 97, 2) Security Post - Science
01:17:57 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "shoot him back" (130, 137, 2) Starboard Primary Hallway
01:18:48 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "yeah" (117, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
01:18:53 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "didn't say I wouldn't arrest you for it" (115, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
01:21:43 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "AI laws" (107, 168, 2) Brig
The "can't breathe / doesn't help / death to borgs" is also PROBABLY related to chasing an antag at the vault and dying from something, but I can't be bothered to check that closely. I was similarly generous with the teleporter bit.12:53:11 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "can't breathe" (84, 161, 2) Vault
12:53:18 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "THAT DOESN'T HELP" (83, 162, 2) Vault
12:53:43 WHISPER Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "death to the borgs" (83, 158, 2) Storage Wing
01:04:36 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "yes?" (117, 165, 2) Brig
01:05:25 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "No beacon" (99, 122, 2) Teleporter Room
01:05:29 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "Tough luck" (102, 127, 2) Command Hallway
01:19:19 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "neat" (121, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
01:28:42 SAY Zybwivcz/(Josh Meyers) "good hustle team" (131, 192, 13) Emergency Shuttle
Noteworthy: 9% of his messages are the exact phrase ";AI door"
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
>play sec
>kill antags as the job is supposed to do
>get cried at by jannies.
What else is he meant to do? Break into song and dance before he restrains antagonists? He's playing security, if it was an assistant I'd understand but some people want to brain off kill antags.
>kill antags as the job is supposed to do
>get cried at by jannies.
What else is he meant to do? Break into song and dance before he restrains antagonists? He's playing security, if it was an assistant I'd understand but some people want to brain off kill antags.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
I'm gonna be honest here and step out of line for about 1 second and say that going brain off antag kill is fine
doing it over and over and over ad infinitum not so much
The problem isn't one specific round, it's not one specific incident, it's that this is ALL zyb does. I'm glad that scriptis showed up with numbers to provide hard evidence for this.
Other sec players somehow manage to show that they can play sec, kill antags, and avoid falling afoul of JANNIES REEE by interacting with other people outside of this wordless NEED to KILL VALID.
doing it over and over and over ad infinitum not so much
The problem isn't one specific round, it's not one specific incident, it's that this is ALL zyb does. I'm glad that scriptis showed up with numbers to provide hard evidence for this.
Other sec players somehow manage to show that they can play sec, kill antags, and avoid falling afoul of JANNIES REEE by interacting with other people outside of this wordless NEED to KILL VALID.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
hit me docScriptis wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 9:09 pmi am not mothblocks and i bill by the hour for chartschocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 9:02 pm This information is meaningless unless you give the server average for say logs.
216 over 7 rounds is about 30 says per round.
For 90 minute shifts (coder target) that's about 1 say every 3 minutes. Really doesn't sound that bad.
ask for a ckey and i will provide the same post above for that ckey as a metric for how little zyb says. i promise it's that bad
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
I haven't seen any heretice since the update, I just ctrl-f jaunt on the heretic page to check if it still existedAnnihilite111 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 8:12 amLiterally just take their focus. They've needed it to jaunt since the reworkRageguy505 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 5:36 am even i have a hard time restraining heretics as a pacifist, they could jaunt everywhere
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
haha I kidnapped this guy and stabbed his eyes with a screwdriver out in maint for the kill last night buckled to a musty bed in a dark side room
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Not in any Zyb shifts for the past month. Congratulations!
ZI 0.7% (1/137)
ZI 3% (12/323)
Congratulations, you nearly said more than Zyb in sixteen shifts in only one shift!
Again, this dataset only includes shifts where Zyb was present at roundstart in the past month.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
been working hard to get myself a ZI of 100%
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
After stripping out a lot of talking with your cult members over cultspeak or etching runes into your arms, 10.0% for seven shifts (36/358). This doesn't include stripping out discussion in deadchat as well, which you're also very pleasantly active in, and about a quarter beyond that is you offering the AI malf upgrades.
That was a lot of cult speak. Wow, you must really like communicating with your team members!
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
I haven't played in a while (ironic, posting in the player's club) but I wonder if I'm as much of a chatterbox in-game as I think I am.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
if you are playing exclusively to remove other people from rounds you suck. you have a guy that does not talk. simply clicks on people either as security or an antagonist. every. round.kieth4 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 1:32 pm >play sec
>kill antags as the job is supposed to do
>get cried at by jannies.
What else is he meant to do? Break into song and dance before he restrains antagonists? He's playing security, if it was an assistant I'd understand but some people want to brain off kill antags.
the joy in security is fighting people, sometimes winning sometimes losing, interrogating people. i personally love when antags murderbone, perhaps not if they always go for the same powergaming gimmick and recall the shuttle to continue their murder spree at the expense of everyone else sitting out.
even if your idea of security is not the same as mine, playing to win is against the rules.
in security, the idea is making rounds fun, not turning them into greenshifts at roundstart because a heretic dared to touch an airlock near their rune. there is nothing that hurts me more than catching a guy who goes "i haven't even done anything yet", because i've been there personally. it suuucks and you've provided nothing to the round.
how can it be so hard to play a multiplayer, roleplaying game, and engage with people? why play for the sole purpose of removing them from the game, every single round that you play?
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
>mfw I talk the most as antag.Scriptis wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 6:48 pmAfter stripping out a lot of talking with your cult members over cultspeak or etching runes into your arms, 10.0% for seven shifts (36/358). This doesn't include stripping out discussion in deadchat as well, which you're also very pleasantly active in, and about a quarter beyond that is you offering the AI malf upgrades.
That was a lot of cult speak. Wow, you must really like communicating with your team members!
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
There was another thread the other day with a quote I liked from blackdav123 (can't directly quote it from here since the thread is closed lawl). I have bolded some parts that I find particularly interesting:
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I had an experience as a traitor engineer where some departmental guard found and caught me, but instead of deciding to add a dent to my skull, they took me to the brig and I was able to plead with the Head of Security for my life in exchange for the 12 TC or whatever I had in my uplink. Granted, that security officer did a full search (like even popped out my headset keys to get my traitor radio), but at least I wasn't just... dead. You don't need to shitcan someone to have an antagonistic experience with them, and it was a seven minutes conversation over me getting my freedom back in exchange for my precious red crystals. There's no stakes in this video game, you don't get to win a trophy or play on a competitive team for clicking someone as opposed to just... typing. Granted, you also need the person to reciprocate the favor rather than have them dessicate your corpse, but maybe that's just borne out of the fear that you weren't going to type and instead would ruin their round?
It's hard to put my thoughts into words. Hopefully that makes sense.
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I remember while I was playing, there was a concept of wanting to "validhunt"... because you didn't roll antagonist. Thus, you could still feel like you're powerful and be able to train your unga 2D spessman skillz, without needing to have to lucked out and gotten rules-protection and other gear. You can just simply tide the fire axe or other high-damage items on the station and start slurking around maintenance looking to cave someone's head in (who was probably just preparing to get stuff started and may have actually been an interesting addition to the round). It's one thing to get caught, but it's another thing to get caught and immediately executed without being able to plead for your life.yeah desworders getting bludgeoned to death by everyone in the room is natural but I wish we were more MRP when it comes to situations where someone is trying to figure out whether someone is an antag or not. do we really need to check the shoes for hidden weapons? check for implants? I watched a clown get murdered for being a "heretic" and he was unable to fight back and did not use any abilities as he was shotgunned and beat to death by a shaft miner larping as sec. the detective decided to drag his corpse to med and had his heart replaced to ensure he wasnt a heretic.
I think my point is that the game would be more fun if people tried to do escalation with antags as they do with nonantags. You wouldnt shove someone to the floor and beat them to death with a toolbox if they are hacking into tool storage, so why should you do so if you see them use an airlock card on it? Because they are the bad guy? When the traitor whips out their esword to try and take you out as a witness, that should be your green light to beat them to death however you see fit.
I had an experience as a traitor engineer where some departmental guard found and caught me, but instead of deciding to add a dent to my skull, they took me to the brig and I was able to plead with the Head of Security for my life in exchange for the 12 TC or whatever I had in my uplink. Granted, that security officer did a full search (like even popped out my headset keys to get my traitor radio), but at least I wasn't just... dead. You don't need to shitcan someone to have an antagonistic experience with them, and it was a seven minutes conversation over me getting my freedom back in exchange for my precious red crystals. There's no stakes in this video game, you don't get to win a trophy or play on a competitive team for clicking someone as opposed to just... typing. Granted, you also need the person to reciprocate the favor rather than have them dessicate your corpse, but maybe that's just borne out of the fear that you weren't going to type and instead would ruin their round?
It's hard to put my thoughts into words. Hopefully that makes sense.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
Extorting and blackmailing antagonists that you have the upper hand on is much more rewarding then killing them. Wouldn't personally do it too often as sec, but its pretty fun.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
"If you don't pony me up with no-slips and a pack of playing cards, I'll tell the crew who you really are... now go mush and kill Runtime or something."Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 7:42 pm Extorting and blackmailing antagonists that you have the upper hand on is much more rewarding then killing them. Wouldn't personally do it too often as sec, but its pretty fun.
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Re: Killing antags peanut thread
To be clear here I have death matched greys for hacking into Cargo/Medical. If I ask you not to hack into my department and refuse to leave then one of us is going to be horizontal at the end of it.
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